paftrain Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I notice that Hornby are bringing out another Nelson - this time ‘Robert Blake’ but do not appear to make a tts decoder available (other than the one fitted to ‘Lord Nelson’). I have today written to Hornby about this. Surely it would make sense to introduce one. I won’t buy another Hornby Nelson unless I can fit tts sound. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles73128 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, paftrain said: I notice that Hornby are bringing out another Nelson - this time ‘Robert Blake’ but do not appear to make a tts decoder available (other than the one fitted to ‘Lord Nelson’). I have today written to Hornby about this. Surely it would make sense to introduce one. I won’t buy another Hornby Nelson unless I can fit tts sound. They are missing a trick here! Lots of TTS Chips are sold out, I’m sure they would sell a lot more with better supply and a wider range. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisr40 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, miles73128 said: They are missing a trick here! Lots of TTS Chips are sold out, I’m sure they would sell a lot more with better supply and a wider range. It's likely to do with Covid and SMT pcb populating factories capacity, I cant see them dropping the ball on TTS what with how popular it is with those of us who have tight control on our wallets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opelsi Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 4 hours ago, miles73128 said: They are missing a trick here! Lots of TTS Chips are sold out, I’m sure they would sell a lot more with better supply and a wider range. Totally agree on the especially on the wider range (though I do also take the point well made my Chrisr in his following post in regard of the supply issues). There are a number of both steam and diesel classes which if a TTS were made available I am sure would sell like hot cakes. Come to think of it - how about an electric for novelty value? I would jump at the chance of a TTS for Class 71, 73 or 87! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisr40 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Yup, I suggested a class 73 a year or two back. There must be thousands of Hornby, lima and Dapol versions that would be happy recipients. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted September 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Chrisr40 said: Yup, I suggested a class 73 a year or two back. There must be thousands of Hornby, lima and Dapol versions that would be happy recipients. A class 73 sound chip ? this sounds just like a 73... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) The class 73... As it is an electro-diesel, the sound is different if the Diesel engine is running... Quite a challenge for a TTS decoder? Edited September 22, 2020 by Sarahagain Typo...autowrong! ;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted September 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Sarahagain said: The class 73... As it is an electro-diesel, the sound is different if the Diesel engine is running... Quite a challenge for a TTS decoder? For a 73 You only need the sounds of : 1. Wind 2. Rail joints 3. occasional level crossing 4. two tones of someone breaking wind 5. door slam unless of course its a CS class 73/9... thats a loud proposition.. it sounds like one of those generators used to hold up bouncy castles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Long story relatively short ... I finally got around to purchasing a 'good used' 30850 a couple of months ago. Loco's much too light - and has a problem whereby the convoluted double flywheel arrangement fills space which could have been usefully filled with lead - more in the smokebox area, but weight distribution is out ... traction improved nevertheless, which is necessary for a prototypically powerful locomotive. Main story - the tender. It had some small glue marks, which I could remove, and did with very local, light fine 'sanding', but as they do one thing led to another ... ... and have ended up respraying. Main problem is the colour match. Brunswick? Nowhere near - too 'green'. L-Rover Coniston Green - better, but again, too green - there's a lot of beige in the LN 'green'. I don't have a spray gun, so cannot blend and spray - has to be 'rattle cans', but L-Rover again have +/- 'the answer' !! EASTNOR GREEN. Very slightly too much beige / light brown in the green but it's a very good and close match. In case anyone else is looking / needing to do the same. I've just received Fox's lining so will attempt that later on, dry, then fine lacquer perhaps tomorrow. Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Gulp! R3732 Sir Walter Raleigh now due Spring 2023? When did that happen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 3, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2022 58 minutes ago, Forester said: Gulp! R3732 Sir Walter Raleigh now due Spring 2023? When did that happen? Looks like they may be pushing back stuff that's already delayed to free-up production slots for items that will be announced next week.... John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Shame the don't seem to be prioritising the new tooling items that have been pushed back like the Std 2 and ruston 88 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Forester said: Gulp! R3732 Sir Walter Raleigh now due Spring 2023? When did that happen? Is it too much to hope that Hornby is having another think about the BR green? The finish on my Lord Rodney is one of the worst I have seen, which is a very great shame on what is otherwise a good model of an underrated prototype. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted January 3, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Dunsignalling said: Looks like they may be pushing back stuff that's already delayed to free-up production slots for items that will be announced next week.... John Surely that could only happen if they are all made in the same factory, Hornby use quite a few different ones. They don't want to get caught out as per Sanda Kan again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 3, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, melmerby said: Surely that could only happen if they are all made in the same factory, Hornby use quite a few different ones. They don't want to get caught out as per Sanda Kan again. Not necessarily, they could be reassigning slots at more than one, or even all, of the factories they now use. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 8 hours ago, Forester said: Gulp! R3732 Sir Walter Raleigh now due Spring 2023? When did that happen? But now Hornby has also got its LN Eras 4 and 5 mixed up so maybe it's all just a New Year hangover mistake. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, No Decorum said: Is it too much to hope that Hornby is having another think about the BR green? The finish on my Lord Rodney is one of the worst I have seen, which is a very great shame on what is otherwise a good model of an underrated prototype. I wouldn't hold your breath on that score. Hornby had the ideal opportunity to address the BR and GWR green on the most recent releases of their King class. Yet again, they paid no attention to comment or customer feedback, producing another run of locos in their now customary insipid/washed out livery. Edited January 3, 2022 by Black 5 Bear 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 14 hours ago, Black 5 Bear said: I wouldn't hold your breath on that score. Hornby had the ideal opportunity to address the BR and GWR green on the most recent releases of their King class. Yet again, they paid no attention to comment or customer feedback, producing another run of locos in their now customary insipid/washed out livery. The King is particularly bad but the latest Clan is much better so there is a glimmer of hope there. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 On 03/01/2022 at 11:28, Forester said: Gulp! R3732 Sir Walter Raleigh now due Spring 2023? When did that happen? And Sir Martin Frobisher for summer 2023, and a price increase of 10% this year from 187,- to 205,99, and another 18 months to go for release, it will be about 250,- or higher at the time it is on the market. This way Hornby is loosing his confidence, 100,- price increase since original 153,- price anouncement at 2020, when these were announced as new models for 2020. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 34 minutes ago, Cor-onGRT4 said: And Sir Martin Frobisher for summer 2023, and a price increase of 10% this year from 187,- to 205,99, and another 18 months to go for release, it will be about 250,- or higher at the time it is on the market. This way Hornby is loosing his confidence, 100,- price increase since original 153,- price anouncement at 2020, when these were announced as new models for 2020. Or you wait for the inevitable price reductions. Some of the original release L/N locos remain unsold in some shops even though they've been heavily discounted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted January 4, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2022 17 hours ago, Black 5 Bear said: I wouldn't hold your breath on that score. Hornby had the ideal opportunity to address the BR and GWR green on the most recent releases of their King class. Yet again, they paid no attention to comment or customer feedback, producing another run of locos in their now customary insipid/washed out livery. Of course, all that customer feedback is from people old enough to see these locos running in the 1950s/early 60s and can remember that all BR green locos had the same uniform shade of the standard green paint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 4, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2022 46 minutes ago, Black 5 Bear said: Or you wait for the inevitable price reductions. Some of the original release L/N locos remain unsold in some shops even though they've been heavily discounted. Agreed, I got my Lord Rodney for ninety quid.... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 hours ago, melmerby said: Of course, all that customer feedback is from people old enough to see these locos running in the 1950s/early 60s and can remember that all BR green locos had the same uniform shade of the standard green paint. Not that old urban myth again. BR green was a set shade. There was no variation and it wasn't mixed in a big bath tub by an old bloke that had been on the ale the night before.... Any deviation on colour would have been a sacking offence and by the 1950s most paint was being bought in from the paint manufacturers anyway. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 4, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: Not that old urban myth again. BR green was a set shade. There was no variation and it wasn't mixed in a big bath tub by an old bloke that had been on the ale the night before.... Any deviation on colour would have been a sacking offence and by the 1950s most paint was being bought in from the paint manufacturers anyway. Jason On the day it was painted, yes, always assuming everybody stirred the paint as thoroughly as everybody else. However, after a year or two of variable mixes of cleaning, weather, pollution and salt air, depending on where locos were shedded, it could and did "go off" in different directions. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted January 4, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Steamport Southport said: Not that old urban myth again. BR green was a set shade. There was no variation and it wasn't mixed in a big bath tub by an old bloke that had been on the ale the night before.... Any deviation on colour would have been a sacking offence and by the 1950s most paint was being bought in from the paint manufacturers anyway. Jason I'm sorry but IMHO that's rubbish. It was a BS colour but preparation and age/location since painting made a difference. e.g. How much rubbing down of old livery before for the new finishes are applied? What was underneath? There was definitely an underlying GWR feel still in BR's Western Region, possibly more than the other companies elsewhere. Corporate BR took a long time to totally eradicate the "Big 4". To me GWR locos never looked the same as an LMS loco of similar outline (say Castle & Jubilee) and it wasn't the brass & copper fittings that made the difference. The green always looked brighter on a clean GWR loco, compared to a clean LMS loco. I have seen on more than one occasion, two BR green locos side by side and they definitely weren't the same shade. However, having never seen two from different paint shops just ex-works e.g. Derby & Swindon side by side, I couldn't say what they would be like. Likewise I can't compare with SR & LNER locos in BR Green as I saw very few. Edited January 4, 2022 by melmerby 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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