sem34090 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 NBR D Class Re-Livery Pack.pdf Some time ago, someone on here was asking about a North British Railway livery sheet, and I just noticed it in a dusty old corner of my old laptop's hard drive! So, though they're poor quality, here they are! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 Warning: Those of a sensitive disposition, please do not open the attached file, or do so a your own risk... CIS Screens.pdf I warn you, they are most definitely not pre-grouping, and anyone who considers post-1923 to be modern image should take great caution when opening the above file... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Warning: Those of a sensitive disposition, please do not open the attached file, or do so a your own risk... CIS Screens.pdf I warn you, they are most definitely not pre-grouping, and anyone who considers post-1923 to be modern image should take great caution when opening the above file... Some accuracy issues there, I'm afraid; they repeatedly show the services as "On Time" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 Is this better?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) The clock is slow! 13:39? Posted Today, 16:45 Edited February 7, 2018 by Sarahagain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 The clock is slow! 13:39? Posted Today, 16:45 I'd guess that it shows Norfolk time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Should it not read 'Cancelled due to lack of track' ? Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 A few questions, if I may, and an appeal for assistance: I currently require drawings for the following locomotives, and would be much obliged if some kind soul could supply them! LSWR Class A12 0-4-2 LSWR Class T3 4-4-0 I also require assistance and drawings regarding the following: LSWR 4-Wheeled Coaching stock (Suitable for the Adams era on the LSWR) LSWR 6-Wheeled Coaching stock (As Above) LSWR Bogie Coaching Stock (As Above) LSWR Wagons (As Above) LSWR Brake Vans (As Above) I know I state my preference as being LBSCR, but given I'm starting with LSWR Adams locos, I would like to also offer suitable stock to run them with! In particular, if anyone could advise on suitable 4-Wheeled Coaching stock, I would be very grateful. I know a limited amount on the 6-Wheeled and Bogie Stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan70000 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Thankyou very much for the NBR sides! I shall probably print them out tomorrow, I assume they'll come out right on A4 paper? I'm eyeing up a GBL Single-to-NBR 474 2-2-2 conversion too (they are nearly identical). I definitely have drawings for some LSWR locos stashed somewhere, I think they're for 0-6-0s though. I also wondered today whether it may be possible to 3D-print 'deep frames' to fit the Airfix City of Truro kit to allow other GWR classes such as the Birds and Bulldogs to be represented. I know there is a Branchlines conversion kit somewhere for this but I can't find it and it looks somewhat involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 First: I think the sides work out OK for A4... if they need adjusting then please say! Second: Look forward to seeing the CR No.123 conversion! Third: Any LSWR, LBSCR, SECR, LNWR, GER, TVR, MGNJR, LCDR, SER, Dist. Rly, Met Rly, LTSR, Rh Rly, Camb Rys, M&CR, NSR, GNoSR, NBR, G&SWR, Midland, Caley, Highland, GNR, NER, ECJS, WCJS, Barry, GWR (Within reason...), KESR, Beyer Peacock, Andrew Barclay, Hundswell Clarke, Hunslet, Sharp Stewart, NBL, or indeed any other loco, wagon or coach drawing from any company that existed before 1923 is very much appreciated, especially anything that operated South of the River Thames (So that includes, GNR, MR, District, Met, LNWR and other stock!) or in the area that became absorbed by the Southern Railway. Fourth: I may have to look into those! sem34090 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted February 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) A few questions, if I may, and an appeal for assistance: I currently require drawings for the following locomotives, and would be much obliged if some kind soul could supply them! LSWR Class A12 0-4-2 LSWR Class T3 4-4-0 I also require assistance and drawings regarding the following: LSWR 4-Wheeled Coaching stock (Suitable for the Adams era on the LSWR) LSWR 6-Wheeled Coaching stock (As Above) LSWR Bogie Coaching Stock (As Above) LSWR Wagons (As Above) LSWR Brake Vans (As Above) I know I state my preference as being LBSCR, but given I'm starting with LSWR Adams locos, I would like to also offer suitable stock to run them with! In particular, if anyone could advise on suitable 4-Wheeled Coaching stock, I would be very grateful. I know a limited amount on the 6-Wheeled and Bogie Stock. Some references LSWR Wagon Ballast Brake Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1964 October 270 LSWR Wagon 8ton refridgerated Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1969 July 211 LSWR Coach 48ft 2nd/3rd Composite Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1970 August 256 LSWR Coach Tricomposite Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1970 September 290 LSWR Coach Brake 3rd Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1970 September 290 LSWR Locomotive Beattie Well Tank 240 Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1970 February 48 LSWR Locomotive Adams G6 060T Y Y Y Railway Modeller 1997 August 352 LSWR Coach Autocoach gate stock Y Y BRM 2001 October 42 LSWR wagon 8t goods van Y Railway Modeller 1979 April 138 LSWR Locomotive M7 044 tank Y Y Y Railway Modeller 1982 June 214 LSWR Locomotive 4-4-2 Adams Radial tank Y Y Y Railway Modeller 1983 August 318 LSWR Locomotive Drummond Bulldog 4-4-0 Y Y Railway Modeller 1984 July 266 LSWR Locomotive 2-4-0 Beattie well tank Y Y Y Railway Modeller 1985 September 386 LSWR wagon conversions from kits Y Y Y Railway Modeller 1986 April 142 LSWR Locomotive 4-4-0 Drummond C8 Y Y Railway Modeller 1973 January 10 LSWR Locomotive Drummond 4-4-0 K10 class Y Y Railway Modeller 1970 October 316 LSWR wagon box van Y Y Y Railway Modeller 1970 November 354 LSWR wagon brake vans Y Y Y Railway Modeller 1971 June 188 LSWR wagon brake vans Y Y Y Railway Modeller 1971 July 223 LSWR Locomotive 4-6-0 Drummond Paddle-box Y Y Railway Modeller 1972 July 205 LSWR Locomotive 4-2-2-0 Double Single Y Y Railway Modeller 1970 January 22 LSWR Locomotive Adams T3 4-4-0 Y Y Y Railway Modeller 1988 January 36 LSWR Locomotive 4-6-2 T Class H16 Y Y Railway Modeller 1988 December 557 LSWR wagon Brake vans Y Y Railway Modeller 1990 October 474 LSWR wagon Ballast brake van Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1964 October 270 LSWR wagon 8t refrigerator van Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1969 July 211 LSWR Locomotive 2-4-0 WT - Beattie well tank Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1970 February 48 LSWR Coach 48ft bogie third Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1970 August 256 LSWR Coach 48ft bogie brake third Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1970 September 290 LSWR Coach 48ft bogie tricomposite Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1970 September 290 LSWR Coach 46ft bogie first Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1970 October 330 LSWR Coach 46ft composite Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1971 February 54 LSWR Coach 6 wheel full brake Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1973 November 416 LSWR Coach 48ft tricomposite Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1973 November 416 LSWR Coach 48ft Brake lavatory tricomposite Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1973 December 458 LSWR Coach 48ft Lavatory tricomposite Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1973 December 458 LSWR Locomotive liveries Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1974 February 62 LSWR Coach Dining Saloons Y Model Railway Constructor 1975 April 143 LSWR Coach Dining Saloons Y Model Railway Constructor 1975 May 185 LSWR Coach Non corridor brake thirds Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1975 September 366 LSWR Coach 4 wheel Brake Third and Composite Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1975 November 437 LSWR Coach 4 wheel - composite and second Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1976 February 61 LSWR Coach 4 wheel luggage vans Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1976 April 142 LSWR Coach 4 wheel luggage vans Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1976 June 218 LSWR EMU Motor coaches Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1976 October 382 LSWR EMU centre coaches Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1976 November 423 LSWR EMU trailer coaches Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1976 December 478 LSWR Coach 52ft corridor tri-composite Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1978 September 480 LSWR railmotor H13 class Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1978 October 552 LSWR Coach 48ft Fruit Van and WD Ambulance Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1978 November 614 LSWR Coach 57ft Ironclads - all third and all first Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1979 July 386 LSWR Coach 57ft Ironclads - brake third and pantry third Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1979 August 450 LSWR wagon 32ft special milk van Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1979 October 580 LSWR Coach 24ft Hearse carriage Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1979 October 582 LSWR Coach Passenger Guards van Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1981 November 754 LSWR Coach 56ft passenger brake van Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1982 October 607 LSWR Coach Eagle' Saloon Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1982 November 670 LSWR Coach 56ft brake third Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1982 December 735 LSWR Coach 48ft Cooking car and van Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1982 December 735 LSWR Coach 30ft passenger brake vans Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1983 February 95 LSWR Coach 30ft second Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1983 July 416 LSWR Coach 30ft third Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1983 July 416 LSWR Coach 32ft lavatory first Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1983 July 417 LSWR Coach 34ft Third Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1983 October 602 LSWR Coach 34ft Brake Third Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1983 October 602 LSWR Coach 34ft Composite Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1984 January 28 LSWR Coach 48ft Lavatory Brake Third Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1984 January 28 LSWR Coach 42ft 6in Tricomposite Y Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1984 September 476 LSWR Coach 29ft 6in 6 wheel first Y Y Model Railway Constructor 1985 February 76 LSWR wagon 21fr horse box Y Y .Model Railways 1974 October 506 LSWR Locomotive Beatie 2-4-0 Well Tank Y Y Y .Model Railways 1982 May 271 LSWR Locomotive Adams 4-4-2 Radial Tank Y Y .Model Railways 1982 September 556 LSWR Locomotive 0-4-4 T Drummond M7 Y Y Y .Model Railways 1984 October 48 LSWR Coach 1865 types Y Y HMRS Journal 1969 October 168 LSWR Coach early 2nd with guards compartment Y Y HMRS Journal 1994 July 67 LSWR Locomotive 2-4-0 tender loco Y HMRS Journal 1997 July 107 From experience I will have to spend some time editing because the tabular format does not transfer across even though it looks fine in the posting box. EDIT: I was right. Ignore the copious "Y"s which are there in the database to show me what information the articles include. The list above all have drawings of the items identified. The final numbers on each line are the page numbers. Edited February 8, 2018 by Andy Hayter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 The Caledonian Railway Association collection of locomotive and wagon drawings are available on 2 CD's from the Association. Go to www.crassoc.org.uk. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 Thanks for that list Andy: I'll have to trawl through my (admitted rather small until you get to 2007!) pile of old RM's and MRC's then! It also gives my an idea which ones to look for. Also, Jim, thanks for the link! I expect that I will, eventually, follow that option. It will be a while before I do Caley stuff, but we'll see... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted February 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2018 You will find drawings plus other information on the LSWR Adams classes in the Wild Swan book on the same, and also info on carriages in Volume 1 of their LSWR carriages book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 Thanks Simon: will need to look at getting that, but the £87 (Cheapest I could find online!) pricetag - for the loco book - puts me off somewhat - surely it's worth a reprint if it's worth that much?! If I were to find a better-priced copy then it would be a definite purchase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted February 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2018 If there is anything in the list that particularly interests you, let me know and I will venture out (into the snow) and make a scan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted February 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2018 but the £87 (Cheapest I could find online!) pricetag - for the loco book - puts me off somewhat - surely it's worth a reprint if it's worth that much? That price tag just reflects what a small number of people have been prepared to pay for it relatively recently, and a current scarcity of available copies. It is no indication of there being sufficient interest to justify a reprint (which is dictated by number of likely sales). It could be that 3 people are seeking a copy, but none at that price, and if 4 became available, the price would plummet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 I stand very happily corrected! At any rate, the point still stands that I don not have that sort of money for books at the moment, but I nevertheless thank you for the suggestion. E. Missenden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 The E5 is arriving soon, so I thought I'd post a picture of the E4 which may donate its chassis... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnylinny Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Hey, I used to have that model... Until I took a hacksaw to it to make this... You know you want one in Improved Engine Green... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 Or do I have an E5 in IEG instead?! I do have an Umber E4... When the E5 arrives, I'll do some IEG artwork for it and go from there... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnylinny Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 If you're going to use the Bachmann E4 chassis for an E5, just remember the driving wheels are different sizes between the E4 and the E5 (the E5 drivers are bigger by 6 inches). I don't know if the wheelbase is the same or not, but with the E5 having a longer firebox, I'd double-check! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 It's arrived! Didn't need much bashing to get it onto the E4 chassis, and it sits at the right height too. I'll stripe the BR E4 and use the bits to make an IEG E5! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 I waa aware of the different wheel sizes, but the E5 is just the right height with the smaller wheels! Also, the only non-alternative was a Dunlop R1 chassis, and that doesn't fit! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted February 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2018 Seeing as you are working in 00, choosing wheel diameters based on the “over-flange” dimension can help with clearances, especially with cast splashers. But the R1 is not the only alternative: just the only alternative for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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