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May I ask roughly where Oak Hill is? I could do up a map if you like? I seem to remember you saying the junction was somewhere near Groombridge, but I can't remember exactly! I think the Spa Valley may be the best starting point, as part of the trackbed is at least already there, along with assets for Eridge, Groombridge and Tunbridge Wells West. I think Hellingly (That was on the Cuckoo line, wasn't it?) was to a similar design as those on the Lewes-East Grinstead, so that shouldn't be an issue. Oak Hill station should therefore also be fine...

 

I'd probably do several versions for you, starting with Split Post no signals, and certain modern-ish bits removed (When was High-Rocks Railmotor Halt opened?), then progress through time until I hit the Oak Hill branch's closure in 1965 (?) and its subsequent use first as an industrial line, then as part of the Spa Valley Railway. This last version will, most likely, appear first as it is far and away the easiest to do! I also need to get someone to reskin some track so it has Shingle Ballast and the sleepers are invisible, and a version where they are visible.

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Now that is an offer I think I would have to take you up on!!!

 

Oak Hill replaces the real world village of Penshurst http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=51.1717&lon=0.1828&layers=6&right=BingHyb

 

From here I imagine the line heading south with a station in Fordcombe, where there could also be a branch heading off to the west to a Quarry which is marked on the 1888 OS map.

 

The line would head south from Fordcombe before joining up with what is now the Spa Valley with the junction facing towards Groombridge Station.

 

Gary

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I highly doubt that N2's ever made it onto the Malmesbury branch, but oh well!

 

I'll plan the route out later then!

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So, much of today Yesterday was spent photographing lovely 0-4-0 tank engines at Didcot, as potential CAD-fodder in the future: 1338, WTC No.5 'Shannon' and 'Bonnie Prince Charlie'. Didcot's always worth a visit, even on a day like to day when it's torrential rain and there's nothing in steam.

 

T. Ired

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So, a diversion from CAD!

 

I have just won this on ebay:

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It was listed as an 0-6-0T, and this is understandable given the chassis has holes for 3 sets of driving wheels. As such it gained little attention from those who may have been looking for what it actually is! I kept quiet about it on here for that very reason... didn't want any of you lot snapping it up! 

As some of you will have guessed/been told already (Gary...) or may have gathered by another posting I've made, this is in fact an LBSCR Class E5 0-6-2T. I was actually trying to get hold of a cheap whitemetal kit to build, but I saw this and couldn't refuse! £20 isn't cheap for a loco body, but it's reasonable, especially when you consider I effectively have all the bits to finish it off at home already. I will most likely put this on a Bachmann E4 chassis, then reuse bits from the E4 body to finish this to a high standard. The E4 Shell can then be backdated and can await a chassis... I have an umber one already, so another one can wait! The E5 will be finished in IEG as No.575 'Westergate'. I will be putting together a livery sheet for it, so if anyone here has any requests for E5 names/numbers to be included on the sheet, please post them here and I will (try!) and do them for you. 

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Of course, I could possibly use the bodyshell to form the basis for a backdated E4, using the Splashers off the Bachmann model. Solves the issue of the E4's wheels being too small for an E5! I would rather use the E4 chassis than my Dublo R1 Chassis (Currently sat underneath my Taff Vale U1) as the E4 chassis is chipped and runs a lot better!

Any thoughts?

I enclose a photo of what, to me at least, looks like an IEG E4, as the splashers are too small for an E5?

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None of the above images are my own and they belong to their respective copyright holders.

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Thanks Michael!

 

I will be getting some more interesting stuff posted before too long. If there's anything in the way of livery sheets or 3D prints you want to see me do then please post them here, or in a PM if you like.

 

E. Missenden

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Following a query from Michael, I've decided to post here a rough outline of how I start a CAD model for a steam loco, in this case an LBSCR Class L 4-6-4 'Baltic' Tank:

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The base drawing taken from a huge folder of SECR, LBSCR, LSWR & SR tank engines that a friend had given to me.

 

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A red block: this will have been measured out at 20ft long, as that is the only measurement given on the drawing.

 

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The drawing is imported into Sketchup, but is the wrong scale and the wrong way round.

 

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The drawing rotated, but not yet scaled.

 

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The drawing re-scaled so that the 20ft length of the cuboid matches the 20ft length marked on the drawing.

 

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The red cuboid is deleted, and the drawing is sectioned into side and end.

 

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The lines between them are then deleted.

 

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The end views are then rotated and placed perpendicular to the side drawing at key points.

 

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The drawings are then trimmed as appropiate.

 

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The footplate profile is then drawn, using the side drawing as a guide, then it is extruded to the edge of the footplate, as marked on the end drawing.

 

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The boiler barrel is then created using a combination of the end and side drawings. From here it is more or less a case of drawing round bits of the drawing and extruding them, but making sure that photos 'agree' with what you're doing!

 

I hope someone finds this helpful, if only to see what I'm doing right/wrong or why I need/want drawings! I also hope that it helps to show why the model begins life as a true-to scale model, with any adjustments to fit a chassis coming later when the model is all-but complete. The full-size true to scale model will be finished first, then the model will be scaled to whichever scale is required. It is after the re-scaling that the model is adjusted, and it will be saved after re-scaling and before the adjustments in order that a scale version can be offered alongside the compromised one.

 

E. Missenden

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Just photographed the drawings for the LSWR Adams A12, above, so hopefully work will start on that tomorrow, if everything goes according to plan. They are not of the best quality, the photos of the drawings, so if anyone here is able to send me nice scanned copies that aren't wonky, and as such don't have flaws that need ironing out, then I would very much appreciate it!
 

All the best,

 

E. Missenden

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I've decided to post here a rough outline of how I start a CAD model for a steam loco, in this case an LBSCR Class L 4-6-4 'Baltic' Tank

 

The base drawing taken from a huge folder of SECR, LBSCR, LSWR & SR tank engines that a friend had given to me.

 

This approach makes much more sense than mine, I just tend to start from scratch with a few key dimensions. Is that SketchUp you're using? 

Also, you wouldn't happen to have drawings for the SECR R class (0-6-0 version) and the crane tank 0-4-0, would you? They'd be very handy for something I may be planning...

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I too have the crane tank drawings!

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This is also on my list of eventual projects:

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I too have the crane tank drawings!

Thanks! I was under the impression that it was ex-SER not ex-LCDR, ordered for Folkestone Harbour duties according to SEMG.

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Train Simming again... this time with an LBSCR E2, available from Steam Sounds Supreme:

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More pre-grouping splendour in Train Sim! Soon the Caley will be better represented in 'V' (Virtual?!) Scale than in any other, as the 812 is currently in development with Digital Traction, who produced the fantastic No.123 above!

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More pre-grouping splendour in Train Sim! Soon the Caley will be better represented in 'V' (Virtual?!) Scale than in any other, as the 812 is currently in development with Digital Traction, who produced the fantastic No.123 above!

 

Now that's bonnie!

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Indeed... £12.50 mind, but worth every penny!

 

Comes with the coaches too...

 

You get both her 1923 LMS-Rebuilt form (As shown above and as preserved) and her original form.

The following liveries are included:

CR Dark Blue (Both shapes: two tender insignias)

CR Drummond Blue (Original only - extra lining)

CR Light Blue (Both shapes)
CR Royal Blue (Original only - Brown Bordering to lettering and white coal in tender)

CR Photographic Grey (Original only)

LMS Lined Lake (1923 Shape only)

LMS Lined Black (1923 Shape only)

 

The coaches come in CR Livery and both P1 and P3 LMS livery.

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I saw a preview of this via the CRA forum. Though I'm not into virtual modelling I am seriously tempted!

 

Jim. edited to correct the dreaded predictive text ;-(

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It really is a very nice addon, and if/when the CR Reskins for the M7 are released again, and when the 812 comes out within the next few months then the Caley will be much better represented in virtual form than in real model form!

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The A12 drawings came out too warped (due to perspective!) to use, so I started this after lunch instead!

Not too hard to guess what it is...

 

E. Missenden

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More pre-grouping splendour in Train Sim! Soon the Caley will be better represented in 'V' (Virtual?!) Scale than in any other, as the 812 is currently in development with Digital Traction, who produced the fantastic No.123 above!

Where’s the tommy bar for tightening the screw coupling?

And why is the wheel profile so poor - it’s not as if it will fall off the track.

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Most CR passenger tender locos only had a 'D' link at the front. It was normally carried resting back against the front of the footplate. The train coupling was the one normally used.

 

Jim

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