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And now those parts are painted up and just awaiting glazing, roofing, and the canopy adding.

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The painting of the lettering on the poster boards was rather messy, but it is still (just, and only just - not at all on a couple of them) legible. I know the doorway is a bit narrow - a hangover from my basing it off of Havenstreet, forgetting that on the prototype the end to the right of the door is non-public, and is narrower. Oh well, other than those things I'm quite pleased with it!

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More dodgy painting on the canopy...

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The layout also now has a name, the only one which properly fitted with my criteria of:

- An airfield/aerodrome which opened prior to 1935.

- A location within the area covered by the LSWR (The Signalbox being an LSWR Type 1).

- A location not within 2 miles of a railway.

- A location that was within a reasonable distance of pre-War electrification, should I wish to electrify in the future.

Odiham fits that as, although not a civil aerodrome as I would have preferred, RAF Odiham saw its first flight in 1925, though I see it didn't become a permanent airfield until 1937. 1925 will suit me though. I also see that it wasn't until 1934 that they set about making it more permanent, but it still just about fits. It's firmly within LSWR territory, with the nearest station being Hook on the SWML at just over 3 miles away.  Finally, there is potential for the branch to run to Farnham, Bentley or Alton where it would meet the SR's 1937 electrification, so it meets that criteria.

 

Of course, I could have just made up a place name for the layout, but that would've been too easy and I would have missed hours of procras... vital research had I done so! I enjoy that sort of thing anyway.

 

The procra... research occurred whilst the ballast was drying, though it's still not dry...

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I hope it's dry by Monday, when this layout is due to be exhibited...

 

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Any help answering these questions would be very much appreciated:

 

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Sem, I’ve been trying to find when Exmouth Junction concrete works opened, without much luck. Looking at it another way, Seaton Junction was rebuilt 1927/8 and had the full monty for concrete additions, and the Lynton and Barnstaple, taken over with grouping, still gained standard nameboards, mileposts, gradient posts before closure,  I would fancy with signal posts, SR management from the outset wanted to do things on the cheap, money being very tight in the 1920s, so I’d say all these items would appear once the SR was up and running mid 20s. Odiham is a good choice, nice village buildings, interesting castle, and a canal. Good luck with the build.

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While I'm afraid I can't help much with the concrete dates, I have to say I'm thoroughly impressed with the 3D prints - I've been struggling to get large objects like carriages to print without significant warping, even when printed directly on the bed. What's your secret? 

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7 hours ago, Northroader said:

Sem, I’ve been trying to find when Exmouth Junction concrete works opened, without much luck.

It was an LSWR establishment originally, so pre-1923.

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Looking at it another way, Seaton Junction was rebuilt 1927/8 and had the full monty for concrete additions, and the Lynton and Barnstaple, taken over with grouping, still gained standard nameboards, mileposts, gradient posts before closure,  I would fancy with signal posts, SR management from the outset wanted to do things on the cheap, money being very tight in the 1920s, so I’d say all these items would appear once the SR was up and running mid 20s. Odiham is a good choice, nice village buildings, interesting castle, and a canal. Good luck with the build.

Not much of Odiham itself will be appearing yet (more's the pity - I know Odiham reasonably well.).

7 hours ago, Skinnylinny said:

While I'm afraid I can't help much with the concrete dates, I have to say I'm thoroughly impressed with the 3D prints - I've been struggling to get large objects like carriages to print without significant warping, even when printed directly on the bed. What's your secret? 

Haha... It did warp, though it's not really all that noticeable. The walls have warped to be slightly inward-pointing, and though I think it may be a file issue, the brickwork was designed flat with no ridge. I like the ridge though, so no point worrying about it!

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More progress - There's even a vague chance that it may be ready for its first outing on Monday.

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56 minutes ago, sem34090 said:

It was an LSWR establishment originally, so pre-1923.

Not much of Odiham itself will be appearing yet (more's the pity - I know Odiham reasonably well.).

Haha... It did warp, though it's not really all that noticeable. The walls have warped to be slightly inward-pointing, and though I think it may be a file issue, the brickwork was designed flat with no ridge. I like the ridge though, so no point worrying about it!

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More progress - There's even a vague chance that it may be ready for its first outing on Monday.

Looking good man.

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Without wishing to gloat about the print, the roof I just made for it really doesn't do it justice. Oh well. I guess it might look better with properly printed brick paper and some ridge tiles.

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The latest item from the Photon -

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Exmouth Junction concrete Running-in board and fence. I did some lamps too, but whilst the lampshades worked the posts were a tad too flimsy.

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5 hours ago, sem34090 said:

The latest item from the Photon -

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Exmouth Junction concrete Running-in board and fence. I did some lamps too, but whilst the lampshades worked the posts were a tad too flimsy.

Print the lamp posts hollow and feed a length of brass wire up the middle to stiffen them?

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The main problem was they didn't survive being removed from the print bed!!!

 

Meanwhile, work has continued!

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Can anyone advise of a date for this charabanc, and whether it would be appropriate for it to appear in SR Livery?

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I’ve got a photo of my mother and father with a load of other happy holiday makers in just such a vehicle, just married, so it places it mid 1920s. Would the SR be using them in preference to one with a more all weather roof, though?

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Well, if I get time then I think at some point I will put it into just such a livery. I'll see if I can find a prototype picture first though...

 

Meanwhile, the layout is now substantially complete prior to being shown tomorrow. It's lacking in some detail, and there's a little touching up to do, but I'm pleased with it and I've seen considerably worse on the exhibition circuit, if I do say so myself!

 

Need to check the whole thing still runs though...

 

So there concludes a 5-day layout build! I'll post photos tomorrow... Later today, rather.

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Admire your industry, energy, and flair. Hope the show goes OK.

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Thank you!

 

Well, in spite of the usual teething troubles, the layout performed with some degree of success, and once completely sorted it ought to be readily available for exhibitions.

 

An interesting observation from today -It was an event at a local school to which my model railway club had been invited- was that there was a significantly greater number of girls interested in all aspects of the display (which included loco repair, an intentionally-W.I.P. layout, 3D Printing and numerous other things to show the broadness of the hobby) than there were boys. This was in spite of the fact that there appeared to be more of the latter ar the event - Perhaps there is more of a shift away from hobbies being based on gender than I had realised.

 

Mind you, all of those viewing the display were perhaps too young for such a conclusion to be formed...

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At a recent show I sat down with a gent who was doing a basic soldering course - just 15 -20 minutes of tuition. He remarked that while there were fewer females at the show than males, far more girls had wanted to try his teaching session than boys -and they were better learners as well. They listened while the boys thought they could do it without instruction and romped ahead and made mistakes. I think this is just down to the different rates of maturity in youngsters and the fact that girls are keen to now learn what were in the past "manly" trades while boys are very much of the "don't wanna read the manual" mindset. Its a set of reactions very much deep in our evolutionary genes I think.

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Martin,

 

What is this "manual" thing to which you are referring? Is it something I need to know about?

 

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Brilliant work on the station, Sem.  Shows what can be done, even down to the raised lettering on the name boards. really most impressed.

 

As for the charabanc, it looks 1920s to me.  Any evidence that the Southern operated such a type? I suspect that, with the odd exception, charabancs were more the province of the private operator, and yours is a lovely canary yellow it'd be a shame to repaint. 

 

What period are you setting the layout?  John Day does an early '30s parcels van which I believe was operated by the Southern.

 

 

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Thanks James - One of the aims of the layout was to demonstrate 3D Printed items, of which we had several being printed at the event, along with un-painted samples of the building, canopy, running-in boards, etc.

 

The period is somewhat loose currently. However, various elements date it -

  • SR 1920s pattern station building. The prototype on which it was based (Havenstreet) was, I believe, erected in 1926.
  • Concrete running-in boards and fencing, products of Exmouth Junction concrete works, would probably have not been installed until the mid/late '20s.
  • Rail-Built Upper Quadrant Signal. This is the killer. They started to be introduced, it is said, from the mid 1920s once it appeared that concrete ones were pretty useless. However, some have suggested that upper-quadrant arms didn't appear until the 1930s. I might replace it with an LSWR Lower-Quadrant arm at some point.

Another twist is that I am considering laying 3rd Rail at some point, which would put the period as being post-1938.

 

For now though, excluding the probably-to-be-replaced signal, I'd say the period is 1928 - 1934.

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13 hours ago, Martin S-C said:

At a recent show I sat down with a gent who was doing a basic soldering course - just 15 -20 minutes of tuition. He remarked that while there were fewer females at the show than males, far more girls had wanted to try his teaching session than boys -and they were better learners as well. They listened while the boys thought they could do it without instruction and romped ahead and made mistakes. I think this is just down to the different rates of maturity in youngsters and the fact that girls are keen to now learn what were in the past "manly" trades while boys are very much of the "don't wanna read the manual" mindset. Its a set of reactions very much deep in our evolutionary genes I think.

 

Women were always the preferred employees in factories producing soldered components. They are better at it. My stepdaughter was a competent solderer of electronic boards when aged 2 and a half.

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14 hours ago, Martin S-C said:

girls are keen to now learn what were in the past "manly" trades

My mum works in construction and is my immediate superior. Says it all really. 

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I between doing things I'm supposed to be doing, I've done a bit more clerestory-bashing. Eventually, once some filler and primer have found their way to them, these might resemble a Billinton 32ft 6w Brake and 54ft 5-Compartment Brake Third.

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I  had yet to apply any glue to the monstrosity at this stage...

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7 hours ago, RedGemAlchemist said:

My mum works in construction and is my immediate superior. Says it all really. 

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