Foulounoux Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) Brief glimpse in RAIL magazine three month partial closure of Kings Cross to allow them to change the approach layout to include the reinstatement of the eastbound bore through Gasworks https://www.railmagazine.com/news/network/plans-unveiled-for-237m-king-s-cross-remodelling Number of errors most obvious the claim that the approach was last remodelled in 72 ...ok it was the 70's but a whole 5 years later Edit to add the key word partial Edited January 13, 2018 by Foulounoux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 G'Day Folks One of the dopiest, decisions ever made was closing the UP bores in Copenhagen and Gasworks tunnels................. glad to hear that they may be reinstated. manna 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 It’s a good time to do it. Thameslink services will be fully operational by then, offering an alternative (if not very comfortable) route from Cambridge and Peterborough into St Pancras. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 The lunatics appear to be leaving the asylum at last. another "Beeching closure" being reversed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foulounoux Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 The lunatics appear to be leaving the asylum at last. another "Beeching closure" being reversed? Hardly. The clearing the throat changes in 1977 were sensible given that traffic had been diverted to Moorgate As someone who whilst young regularly used the GN suburban services the new arrangement were far better than the old arrangement The eastern most line was in effect a York Road only line I have to say that I am surprised that the new layout proposed doesn't seem to make the most with the new Thameslink junction 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted January 29, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2018 The lunatics appear to be leaving the asylum at last. another "Beeching closure" being reversed? If you look at it another way, it's been suitable for 40+ years, which over the same period of time took the GN from one tunnel bore to two with a further one being considered. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 29, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2018 having based my newest layout track plan on the Kings Cross 1977 remodeling I can soon say it is a historic track plan. :locomotive: 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 The 3rd tunnel was kept clear because there was a proposal for a new london airport, and this tunnel was going to be for a dedicated rail link. Now the thameslink 2000 has finally taken the suburban traffic out of the cross, it would allow for longer platforms for IC trains. The limit on ECML train lengths is now KX, and I know they used to have longer trains with kettles on the front, but would you be allowed to start a train with the front of it beyond the starter signal now? never mind the loading of a train longer than he platform. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 On 29/01/2018 at 04:45, manna said: G'Day Folks One of the dopiest, decisions ever made was closing the UP bores in Copenhagen and Gasworks tunnels................. glad to hear that they may be reinstated. manna It’s only the gasworks tunnel . i think it also means the beginning of the end for Kings Cross PSB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 On 29/01/2018 at 20:25, cheesysmith said: but would you be allowed to start a train with the front of it beyond the starter signal now? Hi, Yes, you can do that, either by talking past it (sort of) at Red or by providing 'Standing Forward Controls', but it is quite rare. The problem with doing at Kings Cross would be that you are restricting the use of other platforms as the train would be standing over the S&C 47 minutes ago, ess1uk said: i think it also means the beginning of the end for Kings Cross PSB The end has already started, quite a substantial chunk of Kings Cross PSB was transferred to York ROC over the August Bank Holiday. Simon 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted September 22, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 22, 2019 20 hours ago, St. Simon said: Hi, Yes, you can do that, either by talking past it (sort of) at Red or by providing 'Standing Forward Controls', but it is quite rare. The problem with doing at Kings Cross would be that you are restricting the use of other platforms as the train would be standing over the S&C The end has already started, quite a substantial chunk of Kings Cross PSB was transferred to York ROC over the August Bank Holiday. Simon IIRC Simon, York will take over the whole of the ECML south of it (don't know about northern part), so Donny will also go in the not too distant future. P 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Peterborough PSB next then Doncaster PSB. ERTMS as far as Stoke tunnel is on its way in this control period 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted September 22, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 22, 2019 7 hours ago, Mallard60022 said: ... (don't know about northern part) ... P Work is well underway to re-control Tyneside IECC from York ROC. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Edinburgh will keep it's part Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 nearly finished the works at King's Cross yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 It's certainly half done - the re-opened tunnel is now in use and they've swapped to the other side of the station. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 There is an interesting 4-page photo feature on the Kings Cross remodelling in the current (June 2021) Railway Magazine. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foulounoux Posted June 4, 2021 Author Share Posted June 4, 2021 As the OP amazing how quickly the 4 years have gone and how the project had to adapt to the events of the past 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 All nearly finished with the hand back on the 7th June 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) There's still just time to catch a Hull Trains service on the scenic route to St Pancras. https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:THBGJN/2021-06-06/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt&toc=HT Here passing Swinton Lock approaching Kilnhurst between Doncaster and Rotherham: Edited June 6, 2021 by eastwestdivide Link not linking 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Work in progress, a couple of months ago...... Video..... 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Taken this morning 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 G'Day Folks Wot no 'Cravens'............. manna 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 I've seen signs reading "No Access to Electric Trains" in various places and lack of wiring is the obvious reason, but what's the problem with diesels in Platform 0 - the pollution? If so, why would they be OK in the rest of the station? Would specialist equipment like P/way trains also be banned? I was a commuter into Kings Cross for about 30 years and thought I knew my way round but I get lost there these days. In that time, the Widened Lines (York Road) connection has gone; Platform 11 came and went; platform 0 appeared; the power box has gone; the Indian Village has gone, replaced by the fancy new concourse; Bridge 1 (the old footbridge) was taken down; the gasometers, milk dock & loco yards have gone; so now have the loco sidings by the former York Road platform. The rolling stock has all changed. Platforms changed names from Kings Cross Metropolitan to Midland City to Thameslink and have now closed altogether. The entrances to the tube & its booking hall have been rebuilt; the wooden escalators have gone; there's the new deep-level Thameslink station. For a short while during various works, they uncovered an original sign to the "City & South London Electric Railway". Even platform 9 3/4 has moved a few times ... then there's what they've done across the road at St Pancras. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted June 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said: but what's the problem with diesels in Platform 0 - the pollution? Yes. It's a confined space so exhaust is trapped, at least in the main train shed it is able to disperse. Can you imagine a Deltic in Platform 0 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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