JSpencer Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 10 hours ago, bigherb said: From Oxfords FB page, "OR76BOOM02 is in the warehouse". Shouldn't be long now. Thanks for that. I guess everyone is distracted by the boom brewing up elsewhere. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dube Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) I am correct in thinking the green gladiator gun available now with an 18” gun is correct for WWII and the Bosch Buster in camo is wrong for WWI because it originally had a 14” barrel ? unless there doing 2 different barrels ? Edited February 15, 2019 by dube Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted February 15, 2019 Administrators Share Posted February 15, 2019 From the London Toy Fair: And you can also see it in my interview with Scott Rhodes from Oxford Rail 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, dube said: I am correct in thinking the green gladiator gun available now with an 18” gun is correct for WWII and the Bosch Buster in camo is wrong for WWI because it originally had a 14” barrel ? unless there doing 2 different barrels ? Gladiator had a 13.5in weapon in WWII. Boche Buster had a 14in weapon in WWI. There are differences between the two and I do not know which Oxford has modelled - one model must be incorrect unless Boche Buster carried breifly a 13.5in in WWI. Boche Buster's 18in howitzer is basically the 14in weapon bored out to the larger calibre and so would look no different externally except for the breach and inner diameter of the barrel. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dube Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) Yes they can’t both be correct from a search on the internet; “ In Britain 14in was not a standard military calibre so following the end of WWI the barrels were removed and eventually scrapped in 1926. Their carriages, however, survived. In 1940 HMG Scene Shifter was given a new 13.5in barrel and HMG Boche Buster a new 18in barrel. However, there is some confusion about this and it is possible HMG Boche Buster was also given a 13.5in barrel, this only to be replaced later with an 18in barrel which itself had been developed in 1920. “ Gladiator also had a 13.5” gun in WWII, So it depends if the models have the same gun barrel, Boche Buster had a 14” gun in WWI, so maybe not much difference Edited February 15, 2019 by dube 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Some sources say 14in guns for Japanease battalships, these were the same design as 13.5in weapons only scaled up. Thereofore bigger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Hattons have Gladiator in stock now 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I ended up pre ordering through DBModels the other day, not used them before but they were offering it cheaper than anyone else online, looking forward to its arrival Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Boar Fell Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Just collected my Railgun, very happy. Certainly has presence. Now I know what to run at 4:30 on the Sunday of a show... Hopefully post some photos later (or see Phil's above). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Boar Fell Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 As promised, a few photos of H.M.G Gladiator on the under-construction Warrington Bank Quay. Very much doubt it'll fit once the catenary is up, except for the unwired yard roads. Strangely if I find one going cheap(er) at some point I'm tempted to put one into Loadhaul or similar just for a bit of fun. Hats off to Oxford for trying something a little different. Wild Boar Fell 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 After seeing the above pics I cant get it out of my mind that the Royal Mail are trying a new express parcel delivery service 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Boar Fell Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, 25901 said: After seeing the above pics I cant get it out of my mind that the Royal Mail are trying a new express parcel delivery service Still be safer than delivery by Hermes... 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Some interesting info about the barrels https://www.victorianforts.co.uk/art/sleigh.htm 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 On 17/02/2019 at 01:25, 25901 said: Some interesting info about the barrels https://www.victorianforts.co.uk/art/sleigh.htm Interesting article. There are a few errors though. Piece Maker should read as Peace Maker. The 13 inch gun from a Duke class battleship should be a 13.5 inch gun from an Iron Duke class battleship which were scrapped in the early 30s except HMS Iron Duke herself, retained for training. It is possible some guns may have come from HMS Tiger, a battlecruiser with the same guns scrapped around the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 I've been on and off with this one as its SO Rule 1. I'm coming around to the thought that it would make a good cameo scene at a terminus, paired with the Bachmann "Ambulance Train"* pack as a WW1 "fund raiser" scene.... * Definitely another Rule 1 purchase that I've not really found a use for yet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) Strangely Gladiator can work alongside my EKR radial tank, both being on the EKR at the same time. If the army's loco had failed, they would have pressed into service whatever else was available and nearby so an Adams is not as far fetched as it would seem. In a WWI setting, you could mix it with SECR stock on Sheppy island where they were proof fired. If the gun poses no problems with my tunnels etc, I might run it with warwells, headed by an army WD 2-8-0. That never happened of course but makes an excellent rule number 1. Or I could just have fun with her popping out of a tunnel with an austerity 0-6-0. Another possibility would be a model railway expo mixed with war gaming. You could invade and capture neighbouring layouts. The winner will be he who has the most layouts under his control at the end of the expo. The gun could shell layouts which are strongly defended. Edited February 18, 2019 by JSpencer 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ngram Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 What size turning circle will the gun go round? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted February 18, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2019 Got my hands on one this morning - what an impressive model! Weighty, fantastic detail and it negotiates 2nd radius curves like a dream. Well done Oxford! 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WisTramwayMan Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 On 16/02/2019 at 21:20, Wild Boar Fell said: Still be safer than delivery by Hermes... Hermes in my personal experience are pretty much on a par with Yodel, not that that says a lot. The best companies as far as I'm concerned are Royal Mail, Parcelforce and DPD.... Meanwhile, on the subject of the railgun, mine arrived this morning and very impressive it is too, although the side steps look a bit fragile and some clearances will have to checked before running it. On the basis of that first impression have pre-ordered "Boche Buster" (just the gun, NOT the loco/gun pack), I daresay I can find something suitable from my fleet to haul/propel it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 5 hours ago, JSpencer said: Interesting article. There are a few errors though. Piece Maker should read as Peace Maker. The 13 inch gun from a Duke class battleship should be a 13.5 inch gun from an Iron Duke class battleship which were scrapped in the early 30s except HMS Iron Duke herself, retained for training. It is possible some guns may have come from HMS Tiger, a battlecruiser with the same guns scrapped around the same time. Towards the end of the article, it does mention that the name was changed at some point from 'Piecemaker' to 'Peacemaker' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Hroth said: I've been on and off with this one as its SO Rule 1. I'm coming around to the thought that it would make a good cameo scene at a terminus, paired with the Bachmann "Ambulance Train"* pack as a WW1 "fund raiser" scene.... * Definitely another Rule 1 purchase that I've not really found a use for yet! I agree Rule 1(b) actually "..all those items you would have done anything to get to run on your model "train-set" when you were nine..".. Can anyone plausibly justify this rail gun running through an Austrian station in the 1960's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Boar Fell Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 35 minutes ago, Bill said: I agree Rule 1(b) actually "..all those items you would have done anything to get to run on your model "train-set" when you were nine..".. Can anyone plausibly justify this rail gun running through an Austrian station in the 1960's? Easy, part of the S*******c Reserve running behind an ex-dutch WD 2-10-0 with a Midland Pullman power car as the forward command centre. Shipped out as part of a 'War Games' exercise. I may be wrong but I think a Battlespace Turbo Car was also in the rake??? HTH Wild Boar Fell 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 53 minutes ago, Bill said: I agree Rule 1(b) actually "..all those items you would have done anything to get to run on your model "train-set" when you were nine..".. Can anyone plausibly justify this rail gun running through an Austrian station in the 1960's? Someone forgot to deploy the recoil spade... 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 It's impressive it's heavier than I thought it would be very nice detail. It will go in my display case for now. Not sure of an excuse to run it on a 1990s diesel depot layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Rails Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) Edited February 18, 2019 by Oliver Rails 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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