RMweb Premium Neil Posted January 25, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2018 After the success in identifying my previous mystery van I have another (again from Belgium but Charleroi this time) to identify. The image comes from the LRTA publication Charleroi's trams since 1940 by Skelsey and Hansart, an excellent book about the Vicinal and city trams. The date is given as April 1973 and the caption informs that the green van was being used by STIC (city trams) workmen engaged in attending to the points. Thank you 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2018 My immediate thought was this type of Renault but with a different body http://www.goelette.nl/g_hist5.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 The front axle looks to be in the wrong place for that to be that type of Renault as the door is behind, not in front of it. It may well be a coachbuilt body on a chassis (in which case it could be almost anything). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Searle Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Did Commer export the Q25. Looking at the front axle and the quarter light window could it be one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2018 Looks like the answer's yes https://i.pinimg.com/564x/13/ff/d0/13ffd05c5f16c497dea5e47027db9d4f--car-stuff-trucks.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neil Posted January 26, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2018 Did Commer export the Q25. Looking at the front axle and the quarter light window could it be one? Despite the lovely photo of the export model Commer Q25 I'm not sure that it is one. The body of the green van looks considerably more curvaceous than the Commer and looking at the waist level dark stripe both the cab side window and quarter light seem to follow its line as it curves down to the front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2018 Despite the lovely photo of the export model Commer Q25 I'm not sure that it is one. The body of the green van looks considerably more curvaceous than the Commer and looking at the waist level dark stripe both the cab side window and quarter light seem to follow its line as it curves down to the front. I was replying to the question whether they'd been exported, not that that pic was intended to be the same type of van body Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neil Posted January 26, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26, 2018 Quite, I understood that to be the case but my apologies for not making that clearer. It still is a lovely photo though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fodenway Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I tend to agree with Bernard. There were many independent coachworks in France, Belgium and Holland in the postwar period supplying cabs and bodies for a wide range of applications. British vehicles were very commonly seen in the Low Countries and Scandinavia, and commercial vehicles were often imported as chassis/cowl or chassis-only for reasons of economy and to provide work for local body makers. I lean towards a British chassis, but whether Commer, Austin/Morris or Bedford is debatable given the quality of the photo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted January 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2018 I think it looks quite like an Austin / Morris J type cab with a custom body. Note the curved coachline under the front quarter-light, which matches the panel line on the J type: Cheers, Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I'll start of with Peugeot DMA? As a guess...the front wheels fit the photo as to position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) Or...Peugeot Q3A? https://thetransportjournal.com/2016/06/12/cars-of-tintin-series-peugeot-q3a/ Edited January 28, 2018 by alastairq Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) https://hiveminer.com/Tags/charleroi%2Cstic/Timeline I have googled another photo, maybe the same van? Evidently not a Peugeot, judging from the shape of the radiator grill? Edited January 28, 2018 by alastairq 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neil Posted January 28, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2018 Now why didn't I think of that. I'm pretty sure that's the same van (or at least the same make and model) still wonder what it is though. Might it be as Bernard suggests a custom built body? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 28, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2018 The radiator grill looks like a Thorneycroft. Its capacity would be about 2 tons (or 2 tonnes) which would be at the bottom end of the Thornycroft range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 28, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2018 https://hiveminer.com/Tags/charleroi%2Cstic/Timeline I have googled another photo, maybe the same van? Evidently not a Peugeot, judging from the shape of the radiator grill? It is evidently right hand drive, going by the lack of a steering wheel on the left and the single screen wiper on the right. The style of the wheels suggests that it could have been rebuilt from an ex British army vehicle. The front axle looks very much like a Bedford MW 15cwt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fodenway Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Interesting that 8-stud wheels are fitted. If this is British ex-military, it could be a Bedford MW, Morris-Commercial CS8 or a Ford WOT-2. Civilian Commers of the period and Austin K8s had 6-stud wheels. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 29, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2018 I think that it is a Bedford MW going by the short wheelbase. The Ford and Morris-Commercial 15cwt trucks had longer wheelbases. Also the Bedford was semi-forward control and the driving poition would be in line with the side doors. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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