RMweb Premium keefer Posted May 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2020 8 hours ago, BernardTPM said: Which is the same brochure I posted here about 3 weeks ago. Sorry Bernard, don't know how I missed that! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 An early refurb if I remember correctly? 56073 / 51442, Huntingdon, 12-03-1978. Stewart 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Bradford Forster Square 1979 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Bamber Bridge 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted May 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 15, 2020 That cab front is a bit battered, and the former four character headcode box has a piece of plywood in it. Rob. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Market65 said: That cab front is a bit battered, and the former four character headcode box has a piece of plywood in it. Rob. Hi Rob, A lot of Newton Heath based units had a ding in the that similar position as the derby 108 in the photograph, I have no idea what caused the damage. Someone must know how or what caused the dent. Gibbo. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Welch Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 23 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said: Hi Rob, A lot of Newton Heath based units had a ding in the that similar position as the derby 108 in the photograph, I have no idea what caused the damage. Someone must know how or what caused the dent. Gibbo. For many years I often wondered the same thing, although I thought it was sets based at Longsight that had it but I'm no expert on these things. I'm glad that Gibbo has mentioned it as I thought I was the only one who noticed it. Anyway, I was once told that some idiot who lived near the depot (which ever one it was) use to pepper the front panel with an air rifle. Don't know if this was true or a cover story/railway myth but the info did come off a driver I use to know. Some of the damage certainly looked like air rifle marks when seen close up so who knows. Shame because it always looked a mess. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted May 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) I've read before that the cab-front dent could be caused by the air pipe flying up if it was disconnected before the cock was shut - don't know if that's true though. The air-rifle theory could certainly explain the broken glass in the headcode box! Edited May 16, 2020 by keefer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 14 hours ago, keefer said: I've read before that the cab-front dent could be caused by the air pipe flying up if it was disconnected before the cock was shut - don't know if that's true though. To be honest it seems more believable than an air rifle causing that amount of damage. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold astropsidings Posted May 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 18, 2020 Banbury, September 1980. 14 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted May 18, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 18, 2020 Interesting . I never realised single units got the refurb livery . 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) On 18/05/2020 at 12:10, Legend said: Interesting . I never realised single units got the refurb livery . Yeah, me neither! Wadsley Bridge 1978 Edited May 19, 2020 by montyburns56 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Moxy Posted May 18, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 18, 2020 27 minutes ago, montyburns56 said: Wadsley Bridge 1978 Interesting picture, I was struck by the disused (gas?) lamps, the modern replacements, the DMU and the distinctive OHLE of the Woodhead route. According to the disused stations site, regular passenger traffic was withdrawn in 1959, but it does mention occasional football specials. Was this 1978 DMU on a football special, or was it just passing through on the way to somewhere else? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Moxy said: Interesting picture, I was struck by the disused (gas?) lamps, the modern replacements, the DMU and the distinctive OHLE of the Woodhead route. According to the disused stations site, regular passenger traffic was withdrawn in 1959, but it does mention occasional football specials. Was this 1978 DMU on a football special, or was it just passing through on the way to somewhere else? From the Flickr page... "A Sheffield Midland to Huddersfield train passes through Wadsley Bridge station on 16 September 1978. At this time this service was routed via the former GC line through Sheffield Victoria to Penistone. Wadsley Bridge station closed to regular traffic on 15 June 1959, however it remained in use for football specials for matches at Hillsborough with some service trains also calling on match days." 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Legend said: Interesting . I never realised single units got the refurb livery . Only 55034 and trailer 56283 were painted white/blue. The rest were blue/grey when refurbished. 2 1 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Kings Norton 1981 W55034 Windsor & Eton Central Slough Swindon Works Oxford 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieK Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 On 12/05/2020 at 08:39, stewartingram said: An early refurb if I remember correctly? 56073 / 51442, Huntingdon, 12-03-1978. Stewart 56073 refurbished August 1976 51442 refurbished November 1976. Both of these were Neville Hill allocated when done, but transferred to Cambridge. The very first Metro Cammell vehicles to be refurbished, for example retained the discontinuous gutter strips. The set illustrated is 51230 - 56369, refurbished February/March 1976. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 On 17/05/2020 at 14:19, montyburns56 said: To be honest it seems more believable than an air rifle causing that amount of damage. If the air pipe has been put on its dummy the pipe flies about when it trailing causing that damage. Very common damage on 108s. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Hull Botanic Gardens 1975 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2020 That’s an excellent photo’ of what may be one of the first class 108’s to have been refurbished. Best regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Market65 said: That’s an excellent photo’ of what may be one of the first class 108’s to have been refurbished. Best regards, Rob. Possibly the first according to Railcar.co.uk. "The West Yorkshire PTE was quick to fund some refurbishments, the earliest included 108 twins from the 50599 batch, including 50601 (16/5/75), 50612 (6/6/75), 50613 (23/5/75), 50614(17/4/75), 50616 (29/4/75) all with matching DTCLs. " 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andye Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 On 18/05/2020 at 14:33, giz said: Only 55034 and trailer 56283 were painted white/blue. The rest were blue/grey when refurbished. I didn`t realise that 55034 carried white blue - when we repainted 55024 in maroon back in the day, I pressed for white/blue, but in retrospect that may not have been the best choice for a sandite car! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieK Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 On 25/05/2020 at 19:55, montyburns56 said: Possibly the first according to Railcar.co.uk. "The West Yorkshire PTE was quick to fund some refurbishments, the earliest included 108 twins from the 50599 batch, including 50601 (16/5/75), 50612 (6/6/75), 50613 (23/5/75), 50614(17/4/75), 50616 (29/4/75) all with matching DTCLs. " The first refurbished 108s had a greater amount of white livery on the car inner ends, with the top edge following the roof profile as on the above image. Blue square coupling codes were also a feature of early refurbs. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Llandudno Junction 1979 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted June 14, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) Does anyone know when the last White/Blue DMUs were painted Blue/Grey? I remember seeing set L440 at Reading in white/blue (with W50083) on many occasions and I’m curious to know how long it lasted. My notes are currently AWOL. Here it is at Oxford in 1979 https://flic.kr/p/2iLZuaS Edited June 14, 2020 by brushman47544 Add photo link 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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