RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted March 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) Very nice work Kevin. I like the wire through the pole and horses, very neat solution. I find that there's a dilemma when positioning horse drawn vehicles in relation to wagons: In reality they were often positioned perpendicular to the wagon/van, but that takes up a lot of space and can look silly in model form, I find. So I tend to do what you have done, ie place them parallel to the line, which fortunately was also done sometimes (eg here's a scene I want to do on Farthing: https://www.gettyimages.dk/detail/news-photo/workmen-unloading-apples-from-a-goods-wagon-in-the-sidings-news-photo/3287430#workmen-unloading-apples-from-a-goods-wagon-in-the-sidings-of-the-picture-id3287430) Edited to correct Url Edited March 13, 2018 by Mikkel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 Very nice work Kevin. I like the wire through the pole and horses, very neat solution. I find that there's a dilemma when positioning horse drawn vehicles in relation to wagons: In reality they were often positioned perpendicular to the wagon/van, but that takes up a lot of space and can look silly in model form, I find. So I tend to do what you have done, ie place them parallel to the line, which fortunately was also done sometimes (eg here's a scene I want to do on Farthing: https://www.gettyimages.dk/detail/news-photo/workmen-unloading-apples-from-a-goods-wagon-in-the-sidings-news-photo/3287430#workmen-unloading-apples-from-a-goods-wagon-in-the-sidings-of-the-picture-id3287430) Edited to correct Url Many thanks. They are surprising long especially if the third horse is added! As I have already mentioned this came about from a visit to Steam at Swindon...... Still a few things planned for it. Brake chain Chain for rear flap GWR name on side though I might just keep it at that with no station name. Load Looking at how easy to add reins using tan thread - early days on this one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 Well that turned out easier than I thought. Rings cut from the chain supplied and glued to harness. Light brown thread used and then painted cork brown as that looks a bit more like tan leather. I know the reins should be belt shape but I couldn't get it to look right at that size (0.3mm) so the wife came up with this silk thread idea. Works to...... Few ideas been bantered around like nose bags and horse droppings which have some credence, so watch this space...... 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 Figures nearing completion now. Basic painting done, will now be left to dry thoroughly overnight before applying detail washes. Not sure how many I will use for this CBC, definitely the RH two. Those that are not used will be reallocated to Little Muddle without further ado. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ShildonShunter Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Hi Kevin nice work on painting the figures looking forward to seeing more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) Progress is slow on the third CBC but still its onward at a sedate pace. Wagon loaded now, porter checking on details. Not sure if this works or not? Had one of those panicky moments when I started to put the goods in the van and they wouldn't fit through the door......then realised I hadn't glued the body to the chassis for exactly this reason Doh........ Ought to start thinking about a base for it!!!! Edited April 15, 2018 by KNP 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ShildonShunter Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Hi Kevin it looks great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted May 2, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 2, 2018 Progress is slow on the third CBC but still its onward at a sedate pace. Wagon loaded now, porter checking on details. IMG_0031.JPG IMG_0033.JPG IMG_0038.JPG Not sure if this works or not? IMG_0030.JPG Had one of those panicky moments when I started to put the goods in the van and they wouldn't fit through the door......then realised I hadn't glued the body to the chassis for exactly this reason Doh........ Ought to start thinking about a base for it!!!! I love how that the Railcar in the background doesn't steal the show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 I love how that the Railcar in the background doesn't steal the show. Thanks And then it disappears as I thought it was to overpowering!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffinOz Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Hi Kevin, Have you started the display yet? I have been looking forward to seeing how you set this up, are you just doing the base or will you put a backscene around it? The last picture, low level, really sets the wagon and cart off. this could be how you set it up for the CBC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) Hi Kevin, Have you started the display yet? I have been looking forward to seeing how you set this up, are you just doing the base or will you put a backscene around it? The last picture, low level, really sets the wagon and cart off. this could be how you set it up for the CBC To be honest not a lot has been happening with this CBC. I have been working on a Suburban B set for the main layout for the past few weeks and this seems to have caught the imagination at the moment. 'Not Anther One' will be re-started in the not to distant future, I still have ideas buzzing around the old thinking box but nothing firm as yet....plenty of time! To ensure you are not too worried I have nipped up and had a word with the horses, Phantom & Menace, and they pass on their regards and asked me to send you a PR picture from their portfolio. This layout of horse drawn wagon and goods van is how it will be on the CBC but set against the wall of a large goods shed that will form the backscene. Thanks for asking. Edited May 22, 2018 by KNP 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffinOz Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Thanks Kevin, I was worried the horses had been forgotten. glad they are fine and are progressing their careers as models (a portfolio already) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coal Tank Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 This is excellent modeling John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 Work has recommenced on this CBC Base worked out and track laid with sleepers to correct spacings.... This is however nothing like I first envisaged! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 Had a re-think on this CBC and decided that what ever I built would, like Long Walk Home, end up on the main layout Little Muddle. So the industrial idea went by the wayside and in came a semi - derilict barn and 7 strand GWR fence. This is the first mock up of the idea. A tree of course had to get in on the scene. Concept behind this CBC is that the yard is very busy so the goods van has been moved over to a little used area with the goods then being lifted manually into the horse drawn wagon. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 A view from the other direction Work in progress 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Beautiful. The whole scene is fantastic but those horses and cart are truly stunning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) Base is progressing as well. Grass sub base applied before static grass applied, needs to dry thoroughly so will leave for a while. I might trim off the overhang pieces of the wire fence as they don't look right. Due to this being a short length could not stretch as normal so I have made some trimmed down angle struts from pins to wedge the end posts back upright to put the fishing line back under tension thereby keeping the strands straight! Yard base is just sieved building sand with poly filler rubbed in dry and then sprayed with water. Grey washes to give colour Edited June 26, 2018 by KNP 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MAP66 Posted June 26, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2018 Base is progressing as well. Grass sub base applied before static grass applied, needs to dry thoroughly so will leave for a while. IMG_0266.JPG I might trim off the overhang pieces of the wire fence as they don't look right. Due to this being a short length could not stretch as normal so I have made some trimmed down angle struts from pins to wedge the end posts back upright to put the fishing line back under tension thereby keeping the strands straight! Yard base is just sieved building sand with poly filler rubbed in dry and then sprayed with water. Grey washes to give colour Everything about this is superb Kevin. Fantastic attention to detail as always and thanks for sharing your technique for making the yard base, I might try your method on a future project. Can't wait to see the horses and cart and that fantastic tree incorporated into the scene. Best regards Mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 Everything about this is superb Kevin. Fantastic attention to detail as always and thanks for sharing your technique for making the yard base, I might try your method on a future project. Can't wait to see the horses and cart and that fantastic tree incorporated into the scene. Best regards Mark. Thanks The most important thing I have found when using building sand is that it must be dry, so I brought mine in and spread it out on a tray and left it to dry naturally for a few days. After sieving don't through the bigger bits away from the sieve, save them as they can be used, say around the edge of the yard, where the surface hasn't had the traffic so isn't so compressed. Sand as applied and then wetted and glue applied with a syringe - same mix as for ballast - 50/50 with a splash of washing up liquid. No Polyfilla at this stage as I waited for it to dry.....otherwise you wont be able to rub the filler in dry! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 Well, I did a framed picture on Little Muddle so i thought I better do one here..... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Anotheran Posted June 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2018 This is the first mock up of the idea. I find your use of the phrase "mock up" rather disconcerting given that any final product that I could produce would be nowhere near the quality on show here. Though I appreciate that the mocked up bit is the base. Kind regards, Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 I find your use of the phrase "mock up" rather disconcerting given that any final product that I could produce would be nowhere near the quality on show here. Though I appreciate that the mocked up bit is the base. Kind regards, Neil In this instance I was laying out the components for the first time and checking, through the photographs, that the balance was what I was after. This is where I find digital photography so useful, take a picture, send to the computer, pop downstairs and I can view a full screen picture on a 22" monitor - imagine trying that in the days of film!!!! Static grass applied with some small clumps of grass matting - now drying as I'm in the phase that I can move what I have just glued so need to leave it now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 First post focus picture to see what needs to be done. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 And the other side after a few problems with editing and refining Ivy needs to be added to barn..... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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