Edwardian Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Rough Photoshop concept of KLR No.2, which I've decided to name "Wild Rover". KLR No.2 concept.png It's a strange beast. A S69's cab, splashers and driving wheels with a cut-and-shut footplate and a much smaller boiler, giving it a gangly, slightly disproportionate look - which was intentional of course; in keeping with the KLR's story it's meant to look like it was cobbled together from odds and ends. Colours are not accurate obviously, and I won't actually be using a J15 boiler as I don't HAVE a J15 boiler. I'll be cobbling together something from odds and ends, as is my style. This should be fun to try, even if I fail. If I succeed, I'll have an unusual, fun little 0-6-0 tender locomotive. I can see Edwardian putting that on his list of desirable locos for the WNR? Funnily enough, there is this, after which I hanker: 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted February 14, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 14, 2018 Another thought for you Norfolk people?http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/131154-the-furthest-east-working-of-swindon-steam/page-2&do=findComment&comment=3046041 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) Funnily enough, there is this, after which I hanker: Ah, the No.552 class. Interesting how I ended up with something similar to that. Probably my subconscious playing tricks on me. Anyway, glad to know I may have helped you with a loco you've wanted for a while Another thought for you Norfolk people?http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/131154-the-furthest-east-working-of-swindon-steam/page-2&do=findComment&comment=3046041 I didn't know that some GWR locos ran on Norfolk rails. Interesting. Certainly sets some cogs turning... Edited February 15, 2018 by RedGemAlchemist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Another thought for you Norfolk people?http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/131154-the-furthest-east-working-of-swindon-steam/page-2&do=findComment&comment=3046041 I didn't know that some GWR locos ran on Norfolk rails. Interesting. Certainly sets some cogs turning... They are already on the West Norfolk locomotive roster, both in the original form and as the E&MR 2-4-0 rebuilds: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/107713-castle-aching/page-90&do=findComment&comment=2565790 I have chosen the numbers, and already have the works plates and donor chassis: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/107713-castle-aching/page-193&do=findComment&comment=2804668. So, given time .... The 552 locomotive was consigned to ballast trains in latter days. I thought it might be fun to have one heading a GER permanent way train for CA and any Wolferton layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) The 552 locomotive was consigned to ballast trains in latter days. I thought it might be fun to have one heading a GER permanent way train for CA and any Wolferton layout. Kind of a shame for such a handsome locomotive stuck on something like that. I'd use a solidly built shunting tank engine for that personally. Looking forward to seeing yours built though. That being said, as I noted earlier, the "Wild Rover" concept is just rough. The final locomotive, whenever I manage to complete it, will probably look markedly different depending on what I manage to get my hands on. First though I'll need some plastic pipe for the boiler and a new saw, amongst a couple other things. Edited February 15, 2018 by RedGemAlchemist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 My second postal order arrived about an hour ago and this is what I have to work with. Some old Triang trucks. Unfortunately as it stands only three coal wagons are actually usable. There were two oil tankers whose chassis were so knackered that they were unsalvageable and the crane at the back which is missing a pair of wheels which I can't find a replacement for. Not the best but could be worse and I knew they were damaged when I bought them so I've actually got more than I expected as I bought them for parts. Also another of those half-loop couplings. Why did Triang do these? The design isn't particularly solid in my honest opinion.Anyway, these will soon be modified and painted. Also some bonus pictures for you, showing you how bare-bones my work setup is. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) The luggage van and the brake coach are now finished, which means this little rake of coaches is done. Doesn't perfectly match, but doesn't have to. I like the look, and hopefully "Bulldog" can actually haul them when the time comes. In case anyone's interested, I spray the undercoat but brush paint the rest. Edited February 15, 2018 by RedGemAlchemist 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted February 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2018 A quintessential light railway train! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 A quintessential light railway train! And that makes two for two on the "people I admire the work of" list. Wow. Hello Corbs. And yes, such was the idea. Most light railways had just that - rakes of stock just scratched together out of whatever they could find cheap. The KLR is no exception, in fact they're probably the epitome in that mentality. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 The luggage van and the brake coach are now finished, which means this little rake of coaches is done. Doesn't perfectly match, but doesn't have to. I like the look, and hopefully "Bulldog" can actually haul them when the time comes. Branch Train 1.png Branch Train 3.png Branch Train 2.png In case anyone's interested, I spray the undercoat but brush paint the rest. Marvellous. You know, I thought I'd replied earlier. Must have got distracted. It is a quintessential freelance light railway train, but also, I feel, it has a certain Sudrian quality, which can only add to its charm. If you are likely to run it as a fixed rake, it might be worth semi-permanently/close coupling the coaches; tie them together a bit closer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) ...but also, I feel, it has a certain Sudrian quality, which can only add to its charm. If you are likely to run it as a fixed rake, it might be worth semi-permanently/close coupling the coaches; tie them together a bit closer. Hmm. Does a little bit, you're right, unintentional as that was. Must be subconscious memories of reading/watching Thomas as a child inspiring that without my knowledge. And usually I will and as such I did think of that. But then again if I want to mix it up or come up with something else to add or want to change something (like say if I want a six-wheeler brake coach rather than the full-length one) I like to have the option of removing things or swapping things around easily. Still adore the brown mix they turned out in. Edited February 15, 2018 by RedGemAlchemist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Hmm. Does a little bit, you're right, unintentional as that was. Must be subconscious memories of reading/watching Thomas as a child inspiring that without my knowledge. And usually I will and as such I did think of that. But then again if I want to mix it up or come up with something else to add or want to change something (like say if I want a six-wheeler brake coach rather than the full-length one) I like to have the option of removing things or swapping things around easily. Still adore the brown mix they turned out in. There may well be subconscious associations there, but perhaps that adds the 'rightness' of the ensemble? It works as a train, and so your whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) There may well be subconscious associations there, but perhaps that adds the 'rightness' of the ensemble? It works as a train, and so your whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Hmm. Yes, I can see where you're coming from. And I agree, it really works. Anyway, next up is painting those wagons, finding a second pair of wheels for the crane, and painting the brakevan I still have sitting around. Then I can get to work to slowly building "Wild Rover". I already have the S69 base marked up. And here is the full list of the donor locos. The S69 will also be providing the firebox too because I can't find one to fit my intention. Smokebox from the green Hornby industrial and the chimney from the 101. The boiler I plan to construct from a length of plastic tube and the dome... well, I'll try and think of something. Edited February 16, 2018 by RedGemAlchemist 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted February 16, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2018 Chimneys and domes: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/101647-has-any-one-ever-made-there-own-loco-chimney/#ipboard_body Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted February 16, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2018 Men, to the razor saws! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) Chimneys and domes: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/101647-has-any-one-ever-made-there-own-loco-chimney/#ipboard_body Thanks. I'll have a look at that. I could try and adapt the dome from the 101 but I have no idea how I'd go about that without destroying the bottom of the dome and finding it hard to connect it to the boiler cleanly. Edited February 16, 2018 by RedGemAlchemist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted February 16, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2018 It is possible to do, what I did was saw it out of the boiler with the razor saw (think it was 4 cuts needed), then when the dome was on its own I trimmed away the excess with a stanley knife and then used a set of files (straight and curved) to get the boiler shape back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 "Wild Rover"'s smokebox is cut out and done. And it's... not exactly clean but I can clean that up in post, as it were. I've measured the diameter of the smokebox at roughly 22mm, so either 22mm or even possibly 16mm plastic tubing might work for the boiler... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted February 16, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2018 Nice I ended up borrowing a selection of board markers from work, offering them up and then cut the one that looked right to size! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 Nice I ended up borrowing a selection of board markers from work, offering them up and then cut the one that looked right to size! Ah right. I just have plenty of bits of plastic tubing lying around as I work in an industrial yard (I think I've mentioned this before) so I'll find a bit that's roughly the size I want. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) The three other coal trucks are now painted. My collection of goods stock now contains five open wagons (I have a red Charringtons one from the old Hornby Railroad starter box upstairs which I've partially painted but want to keep the writing on so have kept half-painted, and a repainted Thomas one in a similar grey-and-bronze to the one on the right), a brown GWR van from the same Railroad box that I painted into a slightly different brown, and a grey brakevan, also from the same. Solid starting collection. Also, cat. Nyx likes watching me work at the moment for some reason. Edited February 17, 2018 by RedGemAlchemist 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) Well, this is a thing. A Hackworth "Samson"-esque thing. The tender looks shoddy because I accidentally painted it blue rather than pine green. Oops. Also, I know the footplate is a little messy. I actually don't have anything to fill in the gaps at the moment, or anything precise enough to cut the boiler off without destroying the splashers or firebox. God I'm disorganised. Still, this is definitely a step in the right direction. Edited February 17, 2018 by RedGemAlchemist 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 Here is the setup so far for "Wild Rover", now with the dome from the 101. Unfortunately I don't own a razor saw, so I destroyed much of the boiler of the 101 to get it out (with a breadknife and two files of all things! I told you I was working at the absolute bare bones level.) The things we do to achieve progress. So now I have a dome, the smokebox, and the locomotive itself which I don't have any way to remove the boiler of without any specialised tools. Still, it's definitely movement in the right direction. I also don't have the new boiler to hand yet. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Looking forward to seeing Wild Rover come together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) Looking forward to seeing Wild Rover come together. Thanks. It's been a real pain in the backside. The plastic on this thing is so thick it's genuinely heavy going, especially without proper tools (though that I am working on.) Also decided to ditch the blue and white livery, so now it's just either pine green and blue or black. In Wild Rover's case, the green and blue. The hardest bit is removing the boiler, which as noted I'm not sure how to go about in a precise manner. I'll probably have to wait until I am better equipped. Shortening the footplate though was actually easier than expected though, and I don't mind that the end result has a noticeable overhang. Anyway, I may be getting some more work materials to work with soon as I'm going car boot shopping tomorrow. I'll keep an eye out, especially for old Triang stuff. Love Triang, it has so much character. Shame they went bust and got bought by Hornby. Also a question: does anyone have any advice for reattaching the front coupling? I'm not sure how to go about that as it used to be attached to the lead bogie, which of course is no longer required. Edited February 17, 2018 by RedGemAlchemist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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