sir douglas Posted January 28, 2020 Author Share Posted January 28, 2020 yours and Oban's quotes are still there 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 a little update n the station building The canopy top was built up with 2mm styrene, the ridges are formed with lengths of steel wire superglued on (no reason in particular just have plenty of it) and a strip of styrene for the taller angled ridges, then all of this covered in cooking foil for the lead. The idea was copied from Jamie when he did the lead work on Green Ayre's loco shed roof. The decorative timber on the gable ends are made of styrene strip. i noticed that the horizontal part should be lower than on the RM drawing and they have a an upside down finial in the middle not properly shown on the drawing. im also now trying to decide on the colours to use on the brick work. with some google image samples. its like a cream brick but a bit pink 8 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) last Friday i cut some brackets for the board plugs and the 2 on the panel were fitted last night. Mark came bearing gifts last night, Controller, transformer and 1mm piano wire, i duly got started on fitting the wire to the points with 3 of the 5 fitted and tested. Also Jamie visited giving Mark 3 NB wagons surplus to his requirements One problem now is that the plugs interfere with the slotting of the hooks, i think the quick fix will be to remount the hooks onto blocks to clear the plugs Edited February 4, 2020 by sir douglas 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 doing more research for the station building. It started of an hour ago looking for canopy valance, which led to another surviving building, then this led me to a page about scottish pregrouping building colours and finally a decent photo of an NBR drinking fountain. the search for NBR canopy valance led me to 2 surviving stations still with valance, 1 is North Queensferry, at the North end of the Forth bridge and Dalmany at the South. finding these photos tells me much more than what i could barely see in the Eyemouth photos North Queensferry Dalmany a previous search a few weeks ago led me to old photos of other stations, a close up cut out from the NBR study forum of Kincardine. when i saw these 2, i thought that the horizontal lines were painted but now with the above i now kow they are profiled trim/baton what ever you wanna call it. the above also have holes inbetween the top batons but not the same size while the below dont have them. from what little there is to see of Eyemouth, i dont think it had them either. it did have the batons. the later better quality photos arent of any use since the valance was cut off sometime in the BR days. Another thing is that the slots seem to be of varying width Powder Hall During this search, i came to a website abut building colours showing a photo of North Queensferry (this is how i found out about it) https://www.stationcolours.com/scotland Mark has already told me that the cream and brown are nearly the same as SR but i needed some visual guide to match to which this does. From there i also had another look for the drinking fountains, this is a close up of the one at Eyemouth and a photo of another example found today and finally reference with the photo ive already got of eyemouth, another difference is that Eyemouth and Dalmany have a hole just in from the point but North Queensferry doesnt, though i think the NQf valance looks more like a modern replica since it looks too clean and smooth, the top hole is too big and no bottom hole (insert joke here), what Eyemouth has that Dalmany and NQf doesnt is a slight rounding of the plank corner a mock up of the variations not to scale 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 The last of the board plug brackets cut and fitted last Friday Yesterday morning, i finished all the control panel wiring with the controller plug sockets. Last night i made the cable that goes from the transformers tot he panel, by which time now all the point motor system is wired and working. Next was to wire up the track transformer, i will at some point soon fit a kettle lead and socket but i dont have one yet. so i took a plug cable from a broken vacuum to wire up in the mean time, now the layout is fully working and the first train ran last night up and down testing all tracks and points under the power of my "Halfmoon" diesel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 Last friday (21st Feb) i got the panel hooks screwed back on to hang the panel and we had a running session, i brought one of my locos and some wagons, Mark brought his J83 and G7 and we found some gauging problems on some parts of the points, these are now being sorted. I have found a sheet of 1mm steel and has been cut up to make the transformer box. A kettle lead and socket for the track transformer has been scavenged from an old comptuer screen that was in my shed. All that is left to get is 2 on/off switches for each transformer. The river pieces were put in place just as a convenient ledge to put stuff on 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) Some more point work done last Friday and last night. a rail needed slewing to gauge on point 1 and last night both curve rails on point 5 needed moving to even out a tight spot. below we have 2 nails holding one rail in its new alignment with roller gauges holding the other rail in place All the river pieces are now fixed down. at the end i've clamped on an off cut of ply with pen scribbles on to give an idea of the toll bridge Edited March 10, 2020 by sir douglas 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold GWR57xx Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2020 @sir douglas, just stumbled across this thread and had a very informative and enjoyable read through the whole two years worth of the build and research (even though it's not GWR! ). Thanks for documenting your progress so thoroughly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 thank you, i was thinking it was one and a half years but realizing its been two is surprising 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 i tried making a short piece of canopy valance in styrene but wasnt sure of the proportions so ive gone back to the photos and thought of working it out by extrapolating whats off the photo from what is. and while doing this ive realised that the plywood that the canopy is built on will show through the slots its only a rough guess on MS paint. where the front horizontal edge meets the vertical corner gives the height of the valance and the silhouette of the other end gives the proportions for the holes and slot. the copy of other end is taken from the better version of this photo but that is cropped at the top which only shows the bottom few inches of the valance. One plank has been completed by copying and flipping the bottom part of the slot using a different photo to try guessing the size of the planks from the width of the building. even though this doenst have the valance anymore, the measurement can be passed over onto the one above. while looking at it, i think the gutter line of the canopy is higher than on the RM drawing. It looks like my canopy is about 3mm lower than it should be as it was built from the drawing, so i will have to squash the valance proportions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted March 18, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2020 Try and make the valance as sturdy as you can, Sam. I find having one side of the station building having a canopy the full length, it’s the simplest thing in the world when handling it to let your fingers curl over the edge of the canopy, and mess the valance up. The handiest thing I’ve used is Evergreen sheet, vee groove, rather than attempt to do individual planks. You can find laser cut valances, done in that very thin version of mdf. These are terribly fragile, so much so that the holes are just pinhole size, any bigger would weaken it too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 i am doing in a sheet not individual planks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 i think i found the best match for the brick colours and it not far away https://www.alamy.com/ruined-world-war-ii-brick-building-john-muir-country-park-in-scots-pine-forest-east-lothian-scotland-uk-image218506193.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Just got the e mail from Wakefield club explaining activities are suspended for the moment. My wife and I are temporarily moving in with my mother who is 100 and lives alone. However I do hope to be able to carry on with some work on the stock and constructing the water tower. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 for now i think i will still go in during the day, if i'm on my own its okay. the problem is a gathering of people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Just stay safe Sam. We are not now under the time pressure to get it finished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Correct, aiming for the Wakefield Show in 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) its always on my mind and if the government says no to absolutely any unneccasery travel or things start getting crazy then of course i'll stop but until then it would be nice to keep some progress going, even just 1 day a week Edited March 21, 2020 by sir douglas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 got the transformer box pop rivetted together on Friday. the position of the track transformer has been drilled and the hole for the plug cut out, once the wires are soldered, both of them can be bolted in place. it still needs the hole cutting for the point transformer plug and plenty of ventilation holes drilling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) i knew it would happen, the day after i said that, tighter restrictions are coming in every day and its just best to not go to club, especially by bus. We were thinking of going in by car occasionally but even thats looking doubtful with the travel restrictions in today, its just a no go and i accept defeat since i got a good reference for the building colour i finally made a start on some painting, i dont have anything close so a custom mix was made with Tamiya flesh, buff and white, i originally tried just flesh but that was too strong and then tried the mix, an unintended bonus was the mix came out a bit thin because of one of the colours not shaken properly before being included so the flesh shows through giving random shade variation. also shown is my first attempt at the canopy valance. I'm not happy with the size of the holes and the overall proportions. its a good thing i only need to make a few inches to go at either end. it looks like down the platform side was plain but it did have the brown batten Edited March 24, 2020 by sir douglas 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) it was a lot easier to work out the valance proportions by drawing it to 10x size and then do it in styrene once i was happy with it the painting continues. Ive gone with the closest matches with what ive got, the cream is Humbrol 71 and the brown is railmatch frame dirt another photo from facebook, its a much better quality version of one ive already found but the bottom half is cut off Edited April 11, 2020 by sir douglas 9 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted April 29, 2020 Author Share Posted April 29, 2020 Had to do some serious surgery to the underside of the canopy which has revealed a large measurement mistake in my design of the building. As seen in previous posts i built up the roof an canopy on 5mm ply but when i was checking the valance against it, the edge of the ply can be seen through the slots, i tried cutting the ply thickness, but the whole section ended up coming off instead. i also accidentally cut into the framing of the canopy roof which had to be patched up. the underside was covered over with cardboard and scribed styrene. This though left the edge of the ply sticking out from the building face which i couldnt cut back further because the canopy is sitting on it, so in hindsight the building face should be 5mm higher than it is to meet the canopy ceiling. There was no way of knowing from the RM drawing, just one of those things you wont know until you try it. I had to compromise by chamfering the edge of the ply. Then the valance was stuck on without any trouble. The other tricky thing is trying out the different colours and shades of the brickwork as seen that ive started with random dabs of dark brick. the end wall is still not stuck down i cant remember if i aleady talked abou the hole in the ply for the roof window. Firstly so i can glaze it after fitting ad painting, but secondly so internal lighting from inside can shine out of it. The 3 central crosses are where i want to put LED's and the other 2 markings are for where the lamps will go on the canopy underside of the canopy I'm looking into some suitable posters and timetables to put on the boards but it will have to wait until i can go to the library to print them. The fountain tap as made of an "L" bend of 1.5 brass wire with a tiny T junction of etch fret soldered onto it. The NBR fountains had a steel? cup that hangs on a hook to the right hand side of the tap and is kept on a chain. since the cup hags upside down i just used a bit of styrene rod ad rounded one end and the chain is a bit of twisted electrical wire just like what ive seen done on 4mm wagons. i wast able to get the sink bowl the right shape but its good enough 12 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) ive been going back through the facebook group photos to find any dates since most of my collection arent dated, ive found many interesting photos that i didnt see or recognize as relevant the first time round Post railway view in 1993 from the other side of the river, the siding were the line of trees, the platform and station building are under the embankment on the left. theres a line of rocks placed infront of the wall to stop erosion. ive read that it is a just a story about the station building being buried not demolished but many in the group remember it happening, the roof was taken off and the remaining filled in Though not showing the railway itself and is looking past it, it shows the goods yard building on the left Now for 2 pre railway views. this is dated to around 1879 to 1888/9, the church was built in 1879 and the railway would have been built a year or 2 before opening in 1891. the grass bank above the boat is where the railway would be This one is estimated to be 1869 to 1879 as before the church was built but someone on facebook say he can see registration numbers on the boats which came in 69 a horse and cart in the entrance of the station by the stairs Elsewhere ive brought the transformer box and the transformers home to work on them, dad was doing shopping in the car around the corner so i had a lift to bring my tools home that were also left in the club Edited May 17, 2020 by sir douglas 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 The power box is now usable the computer unit is mounted by the 2 of the 4 fan mounting holes, the vent grill was cut from the now un-needed unit case side, the grill is currently held in by nuts & bolts but will be riveted in The unit plug socket was taken off the case to mount on the box. the box is 7"x7" and 8" tall internally, i thought it would be plenty but now everything in its actually quite tight. the chocolate block is mounted tot he top of the case, the corner had to be cut away to get to the mounting bolt I'm now working on the lid 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 The transformer box is now done apart from painting, it has a lid and a carrying handle A slot was cut into the top edge for the cable to sit in with the lid shut and has cable insulation as trim so the steel doesnt wear into the wires over time, this trim then has tie wraps to keep it on. Ac orresponding curve was also cut from the lid as seen top left. The addition of the bucket handle was a last minute idea. i was waiting this last week for an order of a pack of pop rivets so i could finish it off with the lid and rivet in that grill on the other side 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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