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Eyemouth O gauge 1906ish or 1923ish

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The point motors are going on now with 3 of the 5 in place and tested that they move but not yet got the piano wire. although it was not yet done in the photo below, all the wiring goes through a chocolate block connector next to each motor. the output wires on the computer power pack have been sorted and with a switch rigged up i had the first motor working last week. Today i have wired the switches to go a little panel and wired the 3rd motor also resulting in lots of little scribbling and noting of what colour wire goes where. the screw holes and the motor alignment were done using the template provided in the instructions. back when i was track laying and drilling the holes in the board for the piano wire i marked the centre line across the trackbed which the ends could be marked around and copied on the underneath to align the motor which you can see the pencil line of below. the other centre line was marked off this with a square. the template was cut out and stuck on with tape lining it up with the pencil lines. the screw holes wre marked with a nail and hammer giving one hit just to indent the ply as a pilot hole

 

Also today, Mark has made paper templates for cutting the river and road pieces for 3 boards. its better to make all the mistakes on this old wall paper which otherwise would have just been thrown away rather than make the mistakes on the ply and waste it.

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some wiring done this morning

 

On board 2, the black & white wire from the point motor to the switch have been routed through and will go through a plug with the trackfeed to board 3 and from there with the other point motor feeds to the switch panel which im currently making at home. the same has been done on board 4 with the crossover points but here have been wired together opposite and in parallel so they work on 1 switch, i wanted this because the crossover points should be worked together,ive already tested that i can do this and it works.

 

board 2 done apart from fitting the plugs between the boards and screwing the track feeds into the motor chocolate block as i dont yet know which way round they should go in, these have also been left out on the other 4 motors

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board 4 as initially wired, before i remembered to put the wires oftheright hand motor into the block of the left motor. and just noticed in this photo that iforgot to connect the frog feed to the block on the left hand motor

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After moving the wires over and putting them in opposite on purpose

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Mark's second D class (J83) is just about done and ready for painting

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just  joined a facebook eyemouth group which has some brilliant photos that ive not seen before and a bit of info ive been wanting. When was the bracing ironwork added to the toll bridge? ive now been told it was after the 1948 flood.

 

the photos found i this group

 

First one, its similar to the one weve already got with the D class by the tower. the way the carriages are stored side  y side suggests this is after the cross over was removed in about 1907

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This one gives a good view of how i had to change the track alignment for the layout and lessen the curvature, the first 2 points are left hand instead of right as we are doing it. and there seems to be quite afew boats left moored int he river up from the footbridge in front of the station. Me and mark were recently discussing whether the water tower was stone or brick, in all the other photos it looked like brick but here much more like stone

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a very early shot from the entrance ramp. note the first station building on the right behind the stairs which was soon replaced by the NB standard design, the 2 grounded carraige bodies arent there and the lamps are different later on too. im intrugied by the things in the yard in front of the horse that look like 3 gates or fences side by side.

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weve got this one in one of our books but not ont he computer

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Something like a J39 leaving eyemouth. its worth noting the ironwork i mentioned with corrogated steel and concrete around the bottom

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aview of the toll bridge instead of from it

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After closure being used as a coal merchant. probably taken about the same time as the colour photo by Ernie Brack, but where the hell did this loading gauge come from?, the station nver had one in its working life and isnt in that photo either

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The last train to leave in February 1962

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a regular eyeouth loco J21 in shed

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Some other photos not railway related but useful in the futre like fish merchant carts and trucks

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wooden crates

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On 13/12/2019 at 13:04, sir douglas said:

im intrugied by the things in the yard in front of the horse that look like 3 gates or fences side by side.

 

Hi Sir Douglas and Mark.

The NER used gates/fences as moveable cattle or sheep pens, and those in the photo look as if they are being stored awaiting use.

Could it be that the NBR use a similar method - hopefully someone with better NBR knowledge will know.

 

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2 hours ago, 51235 said:

 

Hi Sir Douglas and Mark.

The NER used gates/fences as moveable cattle or sheep pens, and those in the photo look as if they are being stored awaiting use.

Could it be that the NBR use a similar method - hopefully someone with better NBR knowledge will know.

 

Andy

 

Get in touch with Ian Futers, he’s at our show in Pontefract end of January.

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i was thinking of movable pens but ive not seen any sort of livestock wagons in the photos and there is 3 panels when you would expect to at least need 4 but its good enough for me to say they are cattle pens

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I seem to recall these were referred to as hurdles in the North East.  Three could be used as a pen if a wall or fence made up the fourth side.  There may well  have been more stored on site.

Not sure about NBR practice here, but NER practice at cattle and sheep docks was for two fixed fences, set at right angles to the track.  There were the cattle wagons door width apartThe hurdles were used to help get the animals onto and off the wagons.   Cattle and sheep were herded directly onto waiting wagons and were not held in pens.  Occasionally kept in nearby fields.  This was for rural stations,  it was different where cattle markets and abottoirs were nearby.

 

 

Clive Burdikin

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going back through all the photos ive got, this loading gauge ive not seen before does turn up in some of them but the key word is some it seems to come and go as it pleases. its not in the really early photo above (the ones with the suspected cattle pens) then it is there in a 1891 but then not in 1906 and back in Mr Brack's 1929 aerial and in a 1948 photo. its not there in a 50's 60's photo (with a bus on the platform) and it comes back in some 1962 photos.

 

spent last night wiring the control panel and fitting parts ass much as possible. the power comes in from the right in the blue wires, through the switches and out to the layout on the left in the brown & grey wires, the red & yellow will go into the DIN plugs top & bottom once ive got the controller and transformer to decide which way round to put them in. an extra switch is added bottom right with the brown and purple wires, this will be an on/off switch for layout lamps. since the computer power pack has a 5 volt output it would be nice to have working lamps on the layout such as platform, goods yard and buildings. the 2 plugs will eventually be mounted om brackets.

 

The reason for having 2 pairs of clips and being opposite way around is so the layout can be operated from the front or back and the panel needs to be turned round for which ever side it is on. If you are operating from thr front and the track wired properly, you switch the controller to the right and the train moves to the right but if you walk round to the back with the controller, the direction of travel hasnt changed but it is now going the wrong way to you. so  there are 2 DIN plugs, top and bottom which will have the track feed wired opposite to each other. This will make sure the direction of travel is right whichever side you operate from.

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The panel itsels is 2mm styrene slotted into a frame of 18x43mm. The corners are joined with mitred hidden lap joint but i couldnt quite figure out how to do the key https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZZYjlsT-Ho

japanese carpentry is so far more skilled and advanced than any of the best european carpentry.

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its the same one as on the front of one of our books and somebody posted it here a page or 2 back, is there anything inside about the branch?

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A view od board 3, the cable and plug i the middle of the board will go to the panel and the on at the bottom goes to board 4

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all the plugs between the boards are wired in but i need to make up some brackets to fit them to. in the past week, progress has returned to the station building which i hadnt touched since the show, all the lead and tiling of the roof & canopy is done. the building is now getting to a point that i want to start painting

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timetables from 1922 to 60 with 3 photos of J39 64843 on the branch, just ignore the russian adverts

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somewhere on the branch in August '57

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And 2 in the platform in July '59

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ive been looking at the maps again recently online

 

1850, the main thing of note is that the access slope was already there before the railway. the east side of the river is blank because the map only shows within some boundary (council maybe) which runs along the river. the station will be in the 162 plot

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1893, the railway opend in '91 so it must ahve been surveyed just before work started at this end

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we have a rough estimate of about 1906-7 for when the crossover points came out. this map is dated 1906-8 and they have gone

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Another photo from the group, its one ive already got but much better quality and not covered by watermark. what was not easy to easy in any of the other photos was whether the canopy valance down the platform side was patterned or plain, which i now now was plain. most of the mid-sections along the front of the building were covered in poster boards, the position of the room signs above the doors but i can only make out the booking office of the nearest sign, i'm guessing that the sign on the end is for the door on the other end round the corner which i think will be the Gents toilet, next sign in from that might be Ladies waiting room which will have the Ladie's toilet only accessible through that. The vents on the roof being for the toilets. 2 lamps hanging from the canopy and some sort of dispenser on the near corner. Mark had told that the painting should be cream and brown on the paneling and frame respectively which is evident in this photo  but it looks like the window is white not cream.

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While i'm out of wiring to do, last night i patched up the paint work on all the boards where it has been either sanded, scuffed, chipped, new additions or was missed first time round

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with the track laid, the rest of the bare board was painted to protect it

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1 hour ago, sir douglas said:

with the track laid, the rest of the bare board was painted to protect it

You protect the boards from track? ;)

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The motive power for the branch when running the early 1900s stock is now completed and ready for the paintshop.  NBR class D no 828. Some of the detail parts like the westinghouse pump and piepwork are not yet secured to make doing the Holmes/Reid passenger livery easier.

 

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Its the Connoisseur "Claymore" J83 kit from Jim McGeowan. The kit includes the relevant parts to backdate it to the original Holmes design before the LNER rebuild.  Lower front splashers, dome with lock up safety valves,  baseplate for whistle, and open coal rails.  I also replaced some of the castings with lost wax versions from 62C models. (Peter Mullen)  The only other modifications are to the chassis to fit a motor on the back axle, and strengthening the coal rail etch with half round wire. I described the building of one of these on my "Shez's workbench" thread on kitbuilding and scratchbuilding.   That was the unfitted version. I didn't chronicle this build as apart from the chassis and the westinghouse gear it was pretty much identical.

 

Good session down at the club this morning. Sam got on with electrics while I cut the ply for the river and roadway using the templates made earlier.

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Yesterday was a good day overall, i felt that i didnt do much in the morning but made up for it in the evening.

 

Morning/mid-day, i had a go at fitting an operating wire to point one that came in the box but it wouldnt throw and what has already been suggested to us is that we need thicker piano wire. Instead i fitted the front panel hooks onto board 3 and some cable clips underneath 3 boards and Mark cut out the river and road pieces of ply from ply left over from making the boards

 

panel hooks (top) and clips (botton right)

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another pair of clips (middle), the pen scribbles on the left are to warn of screw points sticking out

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River pieces cut and sanded by Mark on boards 2 and 3

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Last night i was able to hook the panel on the front and the power was croc-clipped on, the plugs were all connected and all 5 motors moved when the switches  were flipped. With the logic that when the motor moves one way, the blades go the other because of the fulcrum part that the piano wire goes through, if i set the blades the right way to replicate the wire being there, i can set the track feeds into the motors and test run a loco over, last night i did this with my controller and the usual rig up with croc-clip and chose Nautilus to the job. i tested each point one by one and swapping the wires over if needed. now all the track board wiring is done, just the controller wiring to do when we get it

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With Stanley in storage after Pontefract show, we can now take over half of the space but the other half will be a OO modern image "Bardun". For the first time all 5 boards are up

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37 minutes ago, sir douglas said:

For the first time all 5 boars are up

Having a wild time, eh?

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1 hour ago, sir douglas said:

 For the first time all 5 boars are up

 

Was a vet involved?

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2 hours ago, sir douglas said:

fixed

You’re no fun. :)
But cracking progress: that does look impressive like that.

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