RJS1977 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Nothing to do with the railways, but after the Crossroads lark in the previous episode I noticed in last night's that a small party of soldiers had been led by a Sergeant Windsor Davies. The first murder victim's surname was Creighton-Ward (think Lady Penelope!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard.h Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Virtually every Film or TV program that has been recorded after the demise of mainline steam seems seems to have inaccuracies in it, I suspect that the film crews just go to the nearest preservation line and use what is available there because for the vast majority of viewers that's perfectly acceptable. Iv'e stopped remarking on it at home because the inevitable reply is "well you would know that wouldn't you" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Did anyone keep a count of the shots discharged by the Mad Prof when he was chasing Morse at the end with no apparent magazine changes? And its always handy for the guilty party to charge into the minefield..... click.... Oh bug**r....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium figworthy Posted February 26, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2018 No railways in last night's episiode so I presume RMwebbers were busy enjoying the story for what it was and not getting apoplectic about all the errors. Let's start with the live minefield in the middle of a UK base. Ah well, if we're onto the last night's episode, that Land Rover was looking a bit dodgy, Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Ah well, if we're onto the last night's episode, that Land Rover was looking a bit dodgy, Adrian As dodgy as the one in "Ice Cold in Alex"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ52 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 As dodgy as the one in "Ice Cold in Alex"? As well as the Windsor Davies and Lady Penelope references did anyone catch the Blackadder or P D Woodehouse bits? Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2018 I only caught the reference to 'Davies' and 'Farage' because of what people on here had already said. I didn't catch any other references, but fortunately none of that prevented me from enjoying it a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
exet1095 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 As a former Squadron Sergeant-Major, my blood pressure has been raised to “Hush-Hush” level by the military scenes. DO YOUR B***** SMOCKS UP YOU F***** SHOWER OF...! It looks like the FIBUA village at Longmoor - old married quarters for the LMR, so another railway link. However, the SOLI seem to have gone downhill since the gallant action at Umboto Gorge! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 4069 Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) Fred and his wife were representing the Stewart-Hargreaves dance academy (think Hi-de-Hi) Edited February 27, 2018 by 4069 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 As well as the Windsor Davies and Lady Penelope references did anyone catch the Blackadder or P D Woodehouse bits? Terry Oh yes, there was a reference to Spode being a fascist, wasn't there? They'll have to be careful putting all these references in though or they'll end up putting Morse (and a load of other series) in the Tommy Westphail Universe! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 As a former Squadron Sergeant-Major, my blood pressure has been raised to “Hush-Hush” level by the military scenes. DO YOUR B***** SMOCKS UP YOU F***** SHOWER OF...! It looks like the FIBUA village at Longmoor - old married quarters for the LMR, so another railway link. However, the SOLI seem to have gone downhill since the gallant action at Umboto Gorge! Perhaps thats why they're being amalgamated, put a bit of backbone into 'em! If the village is Longmoor, that perhaps would explain the derelict brakevan Morse scurries past when being chased by the Mad Professor at the end..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Ah well, if we're onto the last night's episode, that Land Rover was looking a bit dodgy, Adrian Civvy spec Series II or IIa (didn't look properly) with military plates. Correct for period unless I missed something ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
exet1095 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Perhaps thats why they're being amalgamated, put a bit of backbone into 'em! If the village is Longmoor, that perhaps would explain the derelict brakevan Morse scurries past when being chased by the Mad Professor at the end..... There is a brakevan and a wagon or two on a piece of track as a sort of homage to the LMR. It’s not on a bit that was part of the railway though. Perhaps thats why they're being amalgamated, put a bit of backbone into 'em! If the village is Longmoor, that perhaps would explain the derelict brakevan Morse scurries past when being chased by the Mad Professor at the end..... There is a brakevan and a wagon or two on a piece of track as a sort of homage to the LMR. It’s not on a bit that was part of the railway though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
exet1095 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Civvy spec Series II or IIa (didn't look properly) with military plates. Correct for period unless I missed something ? The number plate as “KK” is equivalent to a K reg (1990s), so appropriate for a Defender, but not a civvy series 2! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium figworthy Posted March 2, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2018 Civvy spec Series II or IIa (didn't look properly) with military plates. Correct for period unless I missed something ? Probably right for the period, but as you say, civvy spec, not military (there must be some left running). However, did the army run SWB Land Rovers, all I ever remember seeing were LWB. Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arun Sharma Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) Probably right for the period, but as you say, civvy spec, not military (there must be some left running). However, did the army run SWB Land Rovers, all I ever remember seeing were LWB. Adrian Yes, we [i.e., the Army] did run SWB 88inch LR. They were generally referred to as 1/4 ton land rovers as opposed to the 3/4 ton 109in LWB ones. The other type of pre-defender LR was the rather natty 1/2 ton air portable with the cut down wings. However, outside of the TA, I always got the impression that the 1/4 ton was quite a rare beast - But it would not surprise me if they were more common in the RAF and RN. The RAF even had [sacrilege!] some 1/4 ton vehicles that had been "reverse engineered" to 2wheel drive only for use as "Follow Me" vehicles on airfields. In a way, the easiest methods of telling whether a LR is ex-military are: 1- Look at the lights on the rear - Some differences in use of reflectors as opposed to bulbs in early vehicles. 2-Is there a double bumper - pretty much standard mil. eqpt. 3-Is there an external fuel filler - Most military LR had their fuel tanks under the cab seats so no external filling hatches. Edited March 2, 2018 by ted675 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejstubbs Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) Last night's episode featured an edition of Jeux Sans Frontières set in Oxford, and being recorded for broadcast by Southern Television (I think one of the vehicles even carried the name Southern Independent Television, which would have been correct for 1968 when the episode was set). So on the one hand, plus points to the Endeavour production team for getting the name of the independent television company right - but minus several million for ignoring the fact that JSF in the 1960s and 70s was only ever televised and broadcast in the UK by the BBC I'd have to give them a few points back for the giant hurdling race, though: that was eerily reminiscent of the sort of silly stuff that inexplicably enthusiastic townsfolk across the continent and the British isles used to submit themselves to for the privilege of "being on the telly". Minus a few points, though, for the "thousands of spectators" which were referred to at one point, despite the rather meagre collection of extras actually looking more like the sort of turnout that you might get for a minor local celebrity opening a new branch of Iceland somewhere in rural Lincolnshire... Edited March 5, 2018 by ejstubbs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I suspect the decision to use Southern rather than the BBC was probably as much to do with the ready availability of a preserved Southern OB unit (Bedford VAL coach chassis with a body incorporating contemporary Plaxton Panorama bits!) although I suspect the Beeb might just have kicked off if they had been featured. Plus, Stuart Hall is a damaged brand nowadays. I did smile at the Sebastopol Terrace reference, as well as the other room being reserved in the name of Samantha Smith, presumably someone on the production team is a fan of the contemporary singer Sam Smith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaughan45 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) I suspect the decision to use Southern rather than the BBC was probably as much to do with the ready availability of a preserved Southern OB unit (Bedford VAL coach chassis with a body incorporating contemporary Plaxton Panorama bits!) although I suspect the Beeb might just have kicked off if they had been featured. Plus, Stuart Hall is a damaged brand nowadays. I did smile at the Sebastopol Terrace reference, as well as the other room being reserved in the name of Samantha Smith, presumably someone on the production team is a fan of the contemporary singer Sam Smith. Weren't the early series fronted by David Vine, with Eddie Waring the Referee - I have childhood memories of David Vine doing this programme & the Horse of the Year show. I only seem to remember Stuart Hall from the programmes in the 70s when Arthur Ellis was the referee? Edited March 5, 2018 by vaughan45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Weren't the early series fronted by David Vine, with Eddie Waring the Referee - I have childhood memories of David Vine doing this programme & the Horse of the Year show. I only seem to remember Stuart Hall from the programmes in the 70s when Arthur Ellis was the referee? I think you are probably right, I have vague memories of David Vine being the host at some point. He seemed to be the go-to person for these things for many years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted March 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2018 Weren't the early series fronted by David Vine, with Eddie Waring the Referee - I have childhood memories of David Vine doing this programme & the Horse of the Year show. I only seem to remember Stuart Hall from the programmes in the 70s when Arthur Ellis was the referee? With the caveat that wikipedia is not always the most accurate of sources, this confirms the presenter line-up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_a_Knockout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Not wanting to give away anything from tonight's episode fr anyone who hasn't seen it yet, but I've just realised that "Fancy" is a Z Cars reference! Incidentally the school in tonight's episode is only a handful of doors down the road from the last place I lived in - I often used to see the Thames Valley Air Ambulance landing on the playing fields. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 And what's "Morris Minor" doing on the register? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Enough reference to the film IF for copyright to be suspect Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Not wanting to give away anything from tonight's episode fr anyone who hasn't seen it yet, but I've just realised that "Fancy" is a Z Cars reference! Incidentally the school in tonight's episode is only a handful of doors down the road from the last place I lived in - I often used to see the Thames Valley Air Ambulance landing on the playing fields. Thank you. It was bugging me where I had heard the name before in a police drama. Every time I heard the name I would think "I know that's one of our popular culture references but I'll be ****ered if I can remember". It's good when a drama works on it's own but also has these references littered throughout them to amuse those who spot them. Very clever writing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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