Pete 75C Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) Can't find anything other than pictures of this item online. Does anyone know if this was based on a prototype, even loosely? I can imagine a pair of them suitably coloured and weathered (and with the horrible moulded lamp removed) looking quite at home in an urban terminus. I'm happy to freelance, but if Peco's moulding does have some provenance, that would be useful to know. Thanks. Edited for typo. Edited March 5, 2018 by Pete 75C 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Very similar buffers at Crewe: http://www.hydraflowhydraulics.com/case-study/crewe-railway-station/ John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Very similar buffers at Crewe: http://www.hydraflowhydraulics.com/case-study/crewe-railway-station/ John Aha. Thanks John. Replicating the water tanks and pipework hadn't occurred to me, but that would certainly elevate the Peco items to a new level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 4, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2018 Last time I looked at them I don't think the ones at Crewe are pressurized anymore How common place were hydraulic stops? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 How common place were hydraulic stops? I really don't know Russ. The subject has been gone over before on RMWeb, but the site search isn't working properly and I can't find anything at the moment. From memory, Waterloo, Lancaster, Crewe, Paddington although I'm sure there must be plenty of others. A Google Images search doesn't give much away either. Historically, I guess there must have been many more that have been lost to time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2018 From memory, Waterloo, Lancaster, Crewe, Paddington although I'm sure there must be plenty of others. A Google Images search doesn't give much away either. Historically, I guess there must have been many more that have been lost to time. I’m sure in my yoof I recall a journalist asserting that every time a train kissed the buffers at Waterloo, all the gents loos flushed! 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I think Manchester Piccadilly had them once as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philsandy Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I'm sure Manchester Victoria also had hydraulic buffers in the 60's 70's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2018 Some similar buffer stops at Bradford Interchange station: https://www.flickr.com/photos/41294071@N02/4319281646 http://community.dur.ac.uk/paul.hodgkinson/wordpress/index.php/2010/07/stoodley-pike-botanical-gardens/ They are still there but in the 'compressed' position nowadays, having been superseded by modern ones placed further out on the same lines - I believe this was done at the same time as the station throat was remodelled in 2008. I think they were relocated from the old Bradford Exchange station, when Interchange was built to replace it: http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1872152 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Some similar buffer stops at Bradford Interchange station: https://www.flickr.com/photos/41294071@N02/4319281646 Following your link also led to this one... https://www.flickr.com/photos/phill_dvsn/3629210760/ What a fantastically atmospheric shot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2018 Were they pressurised with oil or water or were there both sorts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Not dissimilar to the buffers at Glasgow Central, although they have been modified with a support frame Safety First by Steve Hallam, on Flickr Jim 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Were they pressurised with oil or water or were there both sorts? I may be completely wrong, but I thought they were pressurised with water stored in a tank. I seem to recall that if the stops were compressed, the water would discharge all over the track. Very happy to be proven wrong though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 The lack of a functioning RMWeb site search is annoying, as I know hydraulic buffer stops have been covered here before in detail. If anyone knows a link, that would be useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium dhjgreen Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) I use Google search with rmweb in the search string, is this any use? https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=tablet-android-samsung&ei=exydWrblK8eHgAa52ILQCw&q=hydraulic+buffer+stop+rmweb&oq=hydraulic+buffer+stop+rmweb&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.12..35i39.28615.28615..30742...0....77.77.1..........1..mobile-gws-wiz-serp.qxFy2R%2BRg0A%3D Edited March 5, 2018 by dhjgreen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I use Google search with rmweb in the search string, is this any use? https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=tablet-android-samsung&ei=exydWrblK8eHgAa52ILQCw&q=hydraulic+buffer+stop+rmweb&oq=hydraulic+buffer+stop+rmweb&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.12..35i39.28615.28615..30742...0....77.77.1..........1..mobile-gws-wiz-serp.qxFy2R%2BRg0A%3D Yes, that's really useful, thanks. It hadn't occurred to me to search Google using "rmweb" in the search! There's actually quite a few threads on RMWeb featuring hydraulic stops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2018 Not dissimilar to the buffers at Glasgow Central, although they have been modified with a support frame Safety First by Steve Hallam, on Flickr Jim I knew a girl with hydraulic buffers - and they certainly needed a support frame. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I knew a girl with hydraulic buffers - and they certainly needed a support frame. I guess the chance of Sherry browsing this thread are slim, but you do seem to like living dangerously. Have you tried paragliding or potholing? May be safer... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2018 I guess the chance of Sherry browsing this thread are slim, but you do seem to like living dangerously. Have you tried paragliding or potholing? May be safer... Sherry knows my tendancies, Pete........ 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2018 Not dissimilar to the buffers at Glasgow Central, although they have been modified with a support frame Safety First by Steve Hallam, on Flickr Jim Is the white box, for a Thomas face? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
71000 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) PECO BUFFER STOPS Edited April 7, 2018 by 71000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) We had a thread about this a few months back I’m sure? Sorry read some of the above posts after posting that, I’m not the only one to notice there is already various threads! Edited March 5, 2018 by big jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-dereham Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 On 05/03/2018 at 10:12, luckymucklebackit said: Not dissimilar to the buffers at Glasgow Central, although they have been modified with a support frame Safety First by Steve Hallam, on Flickr Jim I guess this is more to do with providing a stop for modern units with the middle part buffering to the coupling, as the new stock doesn't have traditional buffers. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotto Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 I thought those 'new' additional frames were to prevent the buffers pushing back out after they were compressed? I m fairly sure there was an incident (at a London terminal?) where a train hit buffers at low speed, but damage and injury was caused by the rebound. I might be imagining this though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Sotto said: I thought those 'new' additional frames were to prevent the buffers pushing back out after they were compressed? I m fairly sure there was an incident (at a London terminal?) where a train hit buffers at low speed, but damage and injury was caused by the rebound. I might be imagining this though! Cannon Street? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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