Barcaldinegoods Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 How many cars used pads - implying disc brakes - in the era when these signs were being painted? Brake pads (implying as you say disk brakes) were introduced on cars in the mid-late 50's (Jaguar XK, MGA Twin Cam etc) and were derived from their use in motor racing which in turn took the idea from aircraft brakes. So potentially brake pads were being sold at the time the bridges were being painted. But, from the dawn of motoring until around the 1970s brakes were frequently 're-lined', i.e. new friction material was rivetted to the existing brake shoes, the metal shoe being in effect the backing / mounting for the lining and not a consumable, thus being re-used many times. I remember buying re-lined brake shoes for an MGB in the early 1980s, I had to give the worn shoes back in exchange. It is only in the more recent 'throw away' times that we buy the shoes & linings new, along with the change from rivetted linings to bonded. Hence 'linings' is actually more accurate in terms of what Ferodo actually sold. As a child I had a tour of the factory (in Leeds) of one of Ferodo's rivals (Mintex). My father tells me you could see the asbestos dust in the air. So far we have both survived the experience, but I bet that isn't the case for many of the workers we saw. Regards Chris 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I was still turning in the old shoes here in Australia until at least 2004 (haven't had to replace any since). It always made me popular with staff in nice clean car accessory shops when I plonked a leaky carrier bag containing the old brake fluid and EP90 soaked units on the counter . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barcaldinegoods Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I was still turning in the old shoes here in Australia until at least 2004 (haven't had to replace any since). It always made me popular with staff in nice clean car accessory shops when I plonked a leaky carrier bag containing the old brake fluid and EP90 soaked units on the counter . Ha ha been there done that. I had some time in Australia with an MGC 20 years ago, I bet if I needed shoes for that it would be a re-lining job there now, shoes would not be on the shelf. Re-lining is still done for rare veteran / vintage cars in the UK too. I'll duck out of this discussion now I think as I suspect am seriously off topic! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2018 As a child I had a tour of the factory (in Leeds) of one of Ferodo's rivals (Mintex). My father tells me you could see the asbestos dust in the air. So far we have both survived the experience, but I bet that isn't the case for many of the workers we saw. I think white asbestos is usually the type used in brake linings, and is among the least noxious of the various forms, I think, so you may well avoid illness. I have known several people who died of mesothelioma, and none of them had worked with asbestos. But they had all worked in laboratories built in a certain era when blue asbestos was regarded as a fine insulator. In the early 80s we had a programme of removing brown asbestos from the 1960s Kent Coast Electrification signalboxes. It required a weekend’s closure, and some innovative operating practices with a lot of special instructions to adjoining boxes. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted March 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2018 I've heard of 'ferrobestos' brake linings (in relation to lift brakes) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Barnwood, Gloucester https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.864712,-2.2149043,3a,75y,107.39h,114.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saNXoJceqU11xJSoI0_JlYQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 Ipswich https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.0715587,1.1330164,3a,75y,170.34h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sba0wlzr1RrMRHL7M2IHUPw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dba0wlzr1RrMRHL7M2IHUPw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D174.02812%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 Andi Now, how did I know Mr. Dell would be fast out the traps with the Ipswich example! Though you probly driv over it more often than under Andi? On other matters, it's possibly not a bad thing have a go weekend mechanics are less common. Also consider that self servicing of safety critical kit is frowned upon lest you void your warranty or have a gaping hole in the service history which could impact on resale. Or, it could be the designed in redundancy of components, not available after market, that restricts the purchaser of a vehicle to a handcuffed servicing deal by the vehicle manufacturer. But that's cynical nonsense, Shirley? C6T. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Anything older than this still surviving? https://goo.gl/maps/TyqqUp6LQDk 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
73c Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) I think there's some old Bonded warehouses over at Burton on Trent that have LMS on them, might be the one's used by Nemesis rail. Edited March 7, 2018 by 73c Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 True! Forgot those as I was just thinking about bridges. One of the Midland warehouses still fulfills something close to it's original purpose with some rather expensive wines. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppercap Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I think white asbestos is usually the type used in brake linings, and is among the least noxious of the various forms, I think, so you may well avoid illness. I have known several people who died of mesothelioma, and none of them had worked with asbestos. But they had all worked in laboratories built in a certain era when blue asbestos was regarded as a fine insulator. Lots of us went round Barry scrapyard, and there was plenty of what looked like white asbestos kicking around there, but fortunately most of it was either soggy or seemed fairly solid, so hopefully was OK if you didn't knowingly touch any of it. But you never know... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invicta Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Another car dealer's ad on a bridge- Oscroft's on a bridge over Arkwright Street in Nottingham (down the page) http://www.gcrleicester.info/html/nottingham.html and another Nottingham one- Crocus Street Nottingham with an ad for H.H. Cooke, Sheet metal workers, http://www.picturethepast.org.uk/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;NTGM000394&pos=19&action=zoom&id=51839 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted March 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2018 I googled "Ferodo Bridges" and got this http://alexrapter.wixsite.com/ferodobridges/about Ferodo Bridges is a theatre company / artistic platform founded in 2012 in order to support artists that believe in investigation and innovation as a way of exploring performance practice. As an interdisciplinary platform, we explore a range of art forms and disciplines, such as theatre, visual art, live art and performance, with a view to creating work that is new and exciting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted March 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2018 Coventry https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.3976163,-1.4962036,3a,36y,349.57h,94.21t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKE7GrKYYHpoWyXttZGj1pA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DKE7GrKYYHpoWyXttZGj1pA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D172.54419%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 Andi 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBRJ Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 I think white asbestos is usually the type used in brake linings, and is among the least noxious of the various forms, I think, so you may well avoid illness. I have known several people who died of mesothelioma, and none of them had worked with asbestos. But they had all worked in laboratories built in a certain era when blue asbestos was regarded as a fine insulator. In the early 80s we had a programme of removing brown asbestos from the 1960s Kent Coast Electrification signalboxes. It required a weekend’s closure, and some innovative operating practices with a lot of special instructions to adjoining boxes. There is a very distinct possibility that someone somewhere made a very good business out of deliberately mixing the blue and white varieties in peoples minds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Anything older than this still surviving? https://goo.gl/maps/TyqqUp6LQDk There’s this, but I don’t know if it’s older https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/9+Princes+St,+Rotherham+S60/@53.4297917,-1.3715134,3a,49.9y,213.05h,93.18t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sX3nXeSxqKvDHJc4XTGMULA!2e0!4m6!1m3!3m2!1s0x48790a41d8154027:0x5d4fabde0673d601!2sRotherham!3m1!1s0x487976fe933ef089:0x79164be5a124f884 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 but I don’t know if it’s older I'd say there's a good chance that it is; the Midland obviously used better paint! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Now you mention it, I'm sure there was one for Johnnie Walker/Red Hackle in Glasgow. Damned if I can think where though. Probable drove under it with Dad when he was away to Rattray's for some bits to fix the A40! d4 Are you thinking of the "Cutty Sark" Bridge that takes the Rutherglen and Carmyle Railway over the A8 at Bargeddie? It was known locally by that name for many years, the advertising boards are still there, but now are covered by canvas adverts that change as the contract period expires Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy_anorak59 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) There used to be a Ferodo bridge over the A41 outside Cammell Lairds Shipyard in Birkenhead: http://20thcenturyimages.com/products/344.html I recall it was used to store coaching stock for Birkenhead Woodside when I knew it. Long gone now though. Edited March 9, 2018 by billy_anorak59 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2018 Love the slogan on that one ,make motoring safe! As if without ferodo its downright dangerous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 True! Forgot those as I was just thinking about bridges. One of the Midland warehouses still fulfills something close to it's original purpose with some rather expensive wines. There is this in Plymouth's Barbican area: https://www.google.com.au/maps/@50.3665898,-4.1343022,3a,75y,224.34h,111.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWI46TmfQhSUF2n2im_i2MQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 - it may have been restored but it looks genuine to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted March 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2018 I remember the Gloucester one well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welchester Posted March 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2018 There is this in Plymouth's Barbican area: https://www.google.com.au/maps/@50.3665898,-4.1343022,3a,75y,224.34h,111.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWI46TmfQhSUF2n2im_i2MQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 - it may have been restored but it looks genuine to me. Available as a Bilteezi card kit: https://anticsonline.uk/N1940_Bilt-Eezi-Prototype-Card-Kits/105272351_Bilteezi-OO-Low-Relief-Goods-Receiving-Depot-4G4.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Lots of us went round Barry scrapyard, and there was plenty of what looked like white asbestos kicking around there, but fortunately most of it was either soggy or seemed fairly solid, so hopefully was OK if you didn't knowingly touch any of it. But you never know... Touching it would cause no harm - its drilling into it or sawing it up, generating dust particles that you breathe that may cause trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted March 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) i remember the bridge carrying the chester to wrexham line across the main road in saltney used to advertise the welsh mountain zoo in colwyn bay http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/s/saltney/ 1979 pic half way down the above page, i remember it still being there in the early 90s Edited March 9, 2018 by big jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teacupteacup Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) Are you thinking of the "Cutty Sark" Bridge that takes the Rutherglen and Carmyle Railway over the A8 at Bargeddie? It was known locally by that name for many years, the advertising boards are still there, but now are covered by canvas adverts that change as the contract period expires cutty sark bridge.JPG Jim That bridge has recently had a lot of work done to it and has been repainted, losing the advertising hoardings in the process There was a bridge over Springburn Road outside St Rollox, and an earlier view showing the ads changed... Edited March 10, 2018 by teacupteacup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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