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This should with any luck be a regular source of updates on the Whitby MRCs new 7mm club layout Spital Bridge (working title, likely to replaced by something more sensible by a responsible adult).  So far we have managed to get a single baseboard assembled and standing upright along with quite a decent looking trackplan.  Using Tom Horn baseboard kits to get the job moving we hope to have track down by the summer.

 

In theory the layout should cover the late LNER into early BR period, but once assembled and signalled suitably it will work for anything from 1940-1990!  It will have a 12 foot scenic section and a 6 foot fiddle yard area (TBC).  A two track platform with a storage road and a goods yard with a small shed, crane and end dock, although once we get to laying track this could well change.

 

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The first board assembled and free standing along with an idea of the bits still to assemble,  We also have a few photos of the other club layout Wensley Cement and Lime which was up this evening for work and some sneaky running.

 

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This should with any luck be a regular source of updates on the Whitby MRCs new 7mm club layout Spital Bridge (working title, likely to replaced by something more sensible by a responsible adult).  So far we have managed to get a single baseboard assembled and standing upright along with quite a decent looking trackplan.  Using Tom Horn baseboard kits to get the job moving we hope to have track down by the summer.

 

In theory the layout should cover the late LNER into early BR period, but once assembled and signalled suitably it will work for anything from 1940-1990!  It will have a 12 foot scenic section and a 6 foot fiddle yard area (TBC).  A two track platform with a storage road and a goods yard with a small shed, crane and end dock, although once we get to laying track this could well change.

 

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The first board assembled and free standing along with an idea of the bits still to assemble,  We also have a few photos of the other club layout Wensley Cement and Lime which was up this evening for work and some sneaky running.

 

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Could you tell me the length and width of the Tim Horn baseboards please. I look forward to seeing this project progress.

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Each of the scenic boards is 3' x 2', there'll be 4 of these plus the fiddle yard.

 

With any luck we may have more boards built at the next meeting, they go together quite quickly.

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Could you tell me the length and width of the Tim Horn baseboards please. I look forward to seeing this project progress.

Like Mike says they are 3x2, but they come in many different shapes and sizes, including custom sizes if you ask.

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Each of the scenic boards is 3' x 2', there'll be 4 of these plus the fiddle yard.

With any luck we may have more boards built at the next meeting, they go together quite quickly.

Like Mike says they are 3x2, but they come in many different shapes and sizes, including custom sizes if you ask.

Many thanks Mike and Boris (I know who you are).

 

I will be in the UK in May and will drop in at the Whitby MRC on the evening of Wednesday, May 16th if that's ok.

 

Mike, I will bring the Prosser drawings of the station buildings which I promised you earlier in the year. Assuming you still want them.

 

Regards

 

Alan

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Hi Alan,

 

Yes I'd still be very interested, many thanks.

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Many thanks Mike and Boris (I know who you are).

 

 

Promises Promises

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Promises Promises

You never know, you may even get a pint out of it.

Hi Alan,

Yes I'd still be very interested, many thanks.

Ok, I will bring them.

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More good progress was made last night, with 2 more boards taking shape.

 

This is the most recent track plan which may be subject to a bit of change once we have the boards together and can experiment with some track

 

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Like Mike says, quite good progress was made last night with 4 people working on the layout one way or another, whilst two people were building boards 2 & 3 another 2 were clearing cupboards and rearranging to make space for the new layout.  At the end of the night we had 1 completely finished board and 2 ready for leg fitting and the adding of the final bracing once the leg sockets are in.  Next week should see leg sockets fitting to the two completed boards and the final board being brought to the point where the leg fittings can be added.

 

The first week after Easter looks to be a painting session to seal the boards to protect them long term as the cupboard they are stored in isn't the driest place in the world.

 

I'd like to think we're at the point where track could start being laid by May.

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Ok, so this might not be very exciting for you guys, but for us who were there its quite a milestone. All scenic boards assembled and standing up on their own.  This thread will probably be quiet for a couple of weeks now as next week will consist of the final little bits of wood work and then the boards will be painted in undercoat to keep moisture out, and you don't need to know the details of that.

 

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Two weeks tonight will be when all the board are put up and everyone who is interested in the project is able to talk about the track plan and scenery and their thoughts.  With it being a club project it is important that everybody gets a fair say in how the layout goes up/how the money is spent.  In theory we will start laying track in 2-3 weeks and then that's when the fun really begins.

 

We are however going to take advantage of a certain large model railway show at York to get some bits and pieces.

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We are however going to take advantage of a certain large model railway show at York to get some bits and pieces.

 

Luckily the treasurer will be there all weekend. 

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Luckily the treasurer will be there all weekend. 

If not a certain amount of turning upsidedown and shaking will occur

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Ok, so this might not be very exciting for you guys, but for us who were there its quite a milestone. All scenic boards assembled and standing up on their own.  This thread will probably be quiet for a couple of weeks now as next week will consist of the final little bits of wood work and then the boards will be painted in undercoat to keep moisture out, and you don't need to know the details of that.

 

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Two weeks tonight will be when all the board are put up and everyone who is interested in the project is able to talk about the track plan and scenery and their thoughts.  With it being a club project it is important that everybody gets a fair say in how the layout goes up/how the money is spent.  In theory we will start laying track in 2-3 weeks and then that's when the fun really begins.

 

We are however going to take advantage of a certain large model railway show at York to get some bits and pieces.

Looking forward to seeing your progress. May even be able to push a wagon or two.

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Looking forward to seeing your progress. May even be able to push a wagon or two.

It's the first layout I've ever been involved in from scratch so I'm interested to learn new bits and pieces, especially about constructing buildings in 7mm.  I kind of know electrics and wiring having done a 4mm layout but we're quite lucky in that we have a number of experienced 7mm modellers in the club as the idea of waving glue around near expensive O gauge points is not something I am looking forward to!

 

It's absolutely a club project and really all I do is what seems like a good idea that night, take photos and then put them up here.

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It's the first layout I've ever been involved in from scratch so I'm interested to learn new bits and pieces, especially about constructing buildings in 7mm.  I kind of know electrics and wiring having done a 4mm layout but we're quite lucky in that we have a number of experienced 7mm modellers in the club as the idea of waving glue around near expensive O gauge points is not something I am looking forward to!

 

It's absolutely a club project and really all I do is what seems like a good idea that night, take photos and then put them up here.

No fear involved with glue and 7mm points. It is the faith required to ballast scale 2 turnouts.

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No fear involved with glue and 7mm points. It is the faith required to ballast scale 2 turnouts.

Its not faith thats required, its voodoo!

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So things are progressing nicely on the layout now, all the boards have been painted to keep the damp off, and the opportunity was taken to put some track down and have a think about the finished item a bit.  In the meantime cork floor tiles have been glued to the tops of the boards and the locating dowels have been fitted, the plan for next week is to put the layout up on its own legs and have a tidy up of the cork with some sand paper, and get a couple of paint runs off the board at the same time.  We can also have a scribble on the top to mark out track plans etc.

 

Really we are still very much on target to start laying track by the start of May.

 

The layout viewed from the dumb end on the station platforms, giving some idea of the platform lengths (which will sit in the wideway between the 2 pairs of lines) and widths, the goods yard is at the front of the layout off to the right.

 

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The layout from the station throat end of the layout, the line on the left will be the running line, the line on the right will go into some off scene carriage sidings and possibly a small loco facility.  The siding furthest left will finish about where it is and go onto an end loading dock so we can put CCTs etc in there, the line next to that will continue into the Goods shed which will have a sneaky access to the fiddle yard so the contents of the warehouse can be changed as needed.

 

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Sorry I couldn't make it to the club last night, last minute elderly Mother duties threw a spanner in the works.

 

Track diagram looking good so far.

 

John

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Sorry I couldn't make it to the club last night, last minute elderly Mother duties threw a spanner in the works.

 

Track diagram looking good so far.

 

John

That's fine John, believe me when I say there are plenty more jobs still to do!

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I know it doesn't look very exciting but it was to us!

 

The cork has had the gaps covered and any lumps and bumps removed, it was quite a relief to put everything together with the alignment pegs in and find that it all lined up without huge gaps or steps over the joins.  The fiddle yard boards were also dug out tonight and laid at the end of the scenic section and we were pleased to find that they were almost the perfect height for the planned sector plate.  One of our more skilled members is taking them home to work on, and when finished should be impressive as apparently they will fold up into a frame for easy transport and storage.

 

Next week we are all taking some time off to get the other O gauge layout out, dust off some stock and have a running night!

 

The week after the pencils and marker pens will be out along with some stock items and some track so the track plan can be marked out on the board tops and some track laid in the not too distant future.  In other news we had a chat about the proposed goods shed and the suggestion was made to base it on the one at Cattal on the Harrogate line, which is still currently standing and is (to my knowledge) fairly unique as it is an NER weatherboard structure.  Now the NE were well known for their distinctive wooden buildings, but to my knowledge there is only this one goods shed in the weatherboarding which should be interesting.  The rationale being that, when painted (either sand and green or oriental blue and off white - the jury is very much still out on that) it will be a colourful and attention grabbing structure to make the layout really stand out.  We also have the advantage that it is still standing so measurements can be grabbed!

 

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This is an image unashamedly nicked from a google search, showing the shed in NER days apparently in county cream with copper beach doors and structural elements.  It's about the right size for us as well which is about 2 wagons lengths, or just over, which seems almost a standard size for the smaller stations in the area, if build it will be an interesting deviation from stone or brick warehouses.

 

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I know it doesn't look very exciting but it was to us!

 

The cork has had the gaps covered and any lumps and bumps removed, it was quite a relief to put everything together with the alignment pegs in and find that it all lined up without huge gaps or steps over the joins.  The fiddle yard boards were also dug out tonight and laid at the end of the scenic section and we were pleased to find that they were almost the perfect height for the planned sector plate.  One of our more skilled members is taking them home to work on, and when finished should be impressive as apparently they will fold up into a frame for easy transport and storage.

 

Next week we are all taking some time off to get the other O gauge layout out, dust off some stock and have a running night!

 

The week after the pencils and marker pens will be out along with some stock items and some track so the track plan can be marked out on the board tops and some track laid in the not too distant future.  In other news we had a chat about the proposed goods shed and the suggestion was made to base it on the one at Cattal on the Harrogate line, which is still currently standing and is (to my knowledge) fairly unique as it is an NER weatherboard structure.  Now the NE were well known for their distinctive wooden buildings, but to my knowledge there is only this one goods shed in the weatherboarding which should be interesting.  The rationale being that, when painted (either sand and green or oriental blue and off white - the jury is very much still out on that) it will be a colourful and attention grabbing structure to make the layout really stand out.  We also have the advantage that it is still standing so measurements can be grabbed!

 

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This is an image unashamedly nicked from a google search, showing the shed in NER days apparently in county cream with copper beach doors and structural elements.  It's about the right size for us as well which is about 2 wagons lengths, or just over, which seems almost a standard size for the smaller stations in the area, if build it will be an interesting deviation from stone or brick warehouses.

I like the idea of the wooden goods shed. The signal box might suit also albeit it somewhat small. But then again, you would know. I'm about to start the Polak signal box kit.

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I like the idea of the wooden goods shed. The signal box might suit also albeit it somewhat small. But then again, you would know. I'm about to start the Polak signal box kit.

 

I like that little box, although if we were to have something like that it'd be more like the Kettleness example which is slightly larger and a lot more ornate, at the moment they're thinking of putting the box at the end of the platform, which makes sense for single line tokens and shunting.  I think it'll likely be a little more generic though, likely a variation of the NER 1b design,  Crabley Creek or Thorpe Gates are about the right style and size, although being a nut I fancied one over the line like Hexham - I was invited to return to my corner at that point!

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The Signal Box in the photo is rather nice, I suppose the best thing to do is once the track diagram is finalised work out how many levers would be required to operate station limits then add in the off scene advance starter plus anything else required within the box and work out how big it would need to be.

 

Once we know that we can always add in "modellers licence".

 

John

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The Signal Box in the photo is rather nice, I suppose the best thing to do is once the track diagram is finalised work out how many levers would be required to operate station limits then add in the off scene advance starter plus anything else required within the box and work out how big it would need to be.

 

Once we know that we can always add in "modellers licence".

 

John

The back of a fag packet calculation would yield 20-25 so any standard NER brick box would cover it, New Bridge sort of size would be typical althoguh I quite like the look of something like Seamer West:

 

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Although if the wooden Cattal type box appeals Kettleness is a fair bit smarter and a nice size:

 

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