hmrspaul Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) The Min 24s were not that common in South Wales- they were too tall for many colliery screens. One flow they were used for was from Brynlliw (near Gorseinon) to Carmarthen Bay Power Station; Brynlliw used a couple of large tractor-shovels to load them. My recollection of watching trainloads pass was that they almost all carried 'Load to' or 'Empty to' brandings, but none were for the working they were on. i agree, it was MDx I was mentioning as being in South Wales. By the 1980s the MDOs dominated the staithes traffic. Initially many MDVs were on South Wales flows. But you know this. Paul Edited March 24, 2018 by hmrspaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 See you Jimmy. So it's no' the Whisky Covhops! Wee sassenach ###### that ye are. According to Larkins two books a good proportion of the MEOs fleet was in Scotland - a lot commoner than Whisky covhops. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor7598 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 At what stage are the 24.5 ton mineral wagons in at the moment. An update would be welcome. Looking forward to a couple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted August 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 minute ago, trevor7598 said: At what stage are the 24.5 ton mineral wagons in at the moment. An update would be welcome. Looking forward to a couple. Join me in buying some Parkside kits, I've given up on them! Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shunny Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Bachmann times has these listed as EP samples on the way so hopefully some pictures soon 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark C Posted August 14, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 14, 2020 On 11/08/2020 at 07:56, Enterprisingwestern said: Join me in buying some Parkside kits, I've given up on them! Mike. I combined Parkside's excellent body with the chassis from their 21t hopper kit (mouldings bought as spares from Peco) which, with a little modification, are more refined and fit perfectly. You also get roller bearing axleboxes as an alternative (Oleo buffers from LMS)... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted August 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 14, 2020 I did wonder if Peco were doing sprue spares as Parkside used to, although obviously not at exhibitions at the moment. Did you obtain them via email/phone call? Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark C Posted August 14, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said: I did wonder if Peco were doing sprue spares as Parkside used to, although obviously not at exhibitions at the moment. Did you obtain them via email/phone call? Mike. Yes, I was really pleased that they are continuing with this. I initially emailed the Technical Advice Bureau and ended up talking to a very helpful person on the phone and paid by credit card there and then. Mark 1 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 12 hours ago, Mark C said: Yes, I was really pleased that they are continuing with this. I initially emailed the Technical Advice Bureau and ended up talking to a very helpful person on the phone and paid by credit card there and then. Mark Thanks for asking them, Mark. Did they give an idea of a price per sprue? Thanks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark C Posted August 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Fat Controller said: Thanks for asking them, Mark. Did they give an idea of a price per sprue? Thanks Each sprue costs £3 plus p&p. You need two sprues per wagon (each has got a solebar, bufferbeam, brakegear and two of each of plain front and roller axleboxes). I had the bodies in stock but I would expect they can be similarly bought as spares. When you add transfers, wheels and Oleo buffers (if required) the cost is not far adrift from the proposed RTR price. I've put photos (some weeks ago) on Wright Writes... Regards Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Mark C said: Each sprue costs £3 plus p&p. You need two sprues per wagon (each has got a solebar, bufferbeam, brakegear and two of each of plain front and roller axleboxes). I had the bodies in stock but I would expect they can be similarly bought as spares. When you add transfers, wheels and Oleo buffers (if required) the cost is not far adrift from the proposed RTR price. I've put photos (some weeks ago) on Wright Writes... Regards Mark Thanks, Mark. I had availed myself of this service form Parkside on several occasions, and am glad to see Peco continuing with it. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark C Posted August 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 15, 2020 I second that! In pre-Peco days the service has enabled me to cost effectively cross-kit 21t hoppers (later bodies on to ex-LNER high-brake lever underframes)...long may it continue.... Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted August 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 15, 2020 8 hours ago, Mark C said: I've put photos (some weeks ago) on Wright Writes... That explains why I haven't seen them! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark C Posted August 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 15, 2020 Ha! See page 1818 of WW - for 'some weeks' read some months! Grief, where did nearly three months go?!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredo Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 The early proofing samples are shown in the October issue of BRM. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slg Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Samples also in the Bachmann Times and it's now saying delivery Q4 2021 on the website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted November 7, 2020 Moderators Share Posted November 7, 2020 Come along to our virtual show tomorrow about 10 to get an update with pics and video of all the variants. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmc Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 We have received the Engineering Prototypes for our forthcoming 24.5T Mineral wagon from Bachmann which show the combinations of standard doors, pressed doors, three types of buffers, two different door bangers and axleboxes. 38-933Z38-930Z38-932Z38-929Z38-928Z-A38-928Z-B38-926Z38-925Z The following wagons will be available and can now be ordered on TMC website :- 38-925Z Twin pack in BR grey livery with Spindle Buffers and Oil Axleboxes [B280009 & B280037] 38-926Z Single pack in BR grey livery with Pressed Side Doors, Spindle Buffers and Oil Axleboxes [B282087N] 38-928Z Twin pack in BR Grey livery with yellow triangle, Spindle Buffers and Roller Bearings. One wagon with standard doors [B281146] and one with Pressed Side Doors [B281982] 38-929Z Twin pack in BR grey livery with yellow triangle, Oleo Buffers and Roller bearings [B282904 & B282891] 38-930Z Single pack in BR grey livery with yellow triangle, Self-contained Buffers and Roller Bearings [B282299] 38-932Z Single pack in BR grey livery with yellow triangle, coded COAL 24 ½ , Self-contained Buffers and Roller Bearings [B282217N] 38-933Z Single pack in BR grey livery with yellow triangle, coded COAL 24 MEO, Oleo Buffers and Roller Bearings [B282827] We will show photographs of liveried pre-production samples on here once they become available and advise delivery date once confirmed. Background: 3,395 of these wagons were built between 1952 and 1962 at British Railways Shildon and Ashford works. A number of these wagons were originally allocated to dedicated traffic flows in block trains to power stations and steel works around the network but many of these wagons soon migrated to general traffic flows, often retaining their dedicated branding, so that they could be found in many parts of the country. They lasted into the TOPS era so are suitable for layouts covering a wide time span, final withdrawals coming in the 1980’s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beancounter Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 which of these are pre TOPS please ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 3, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, beancounter said: which of these are pre TOPS please ? As 38-933 has a TOPs code... MEO... is it reasonable to assume the rest are pre TOPs? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmc Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 On 03/12/2020 at 19:45, Phil Bullock said: As 38-933 has a TOPs code... MEO... is it reasonable to assume the rest are pre TOPs? Hello Phil, That is correct, the rest have pre-TOPS markings although it is clear from the dates of the photographs used to design the artwork that several of the other wagons being produced would or could have run in the TOPS era exactly as they are being produced. It appears that these wagons were not repainted very often and that it took years for TOPS codes to be applied. Hope this helps. All the best, TMC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, tmc said: Hello Phil, That is correct, the rest have pre-TOPS markings although it is clear from the dates of the photographs used to design the artwork that several of the other wagons being produced would or could have run in the TOPS era exactly as they are being produced. It appears that these wagons were not repainted very often and that it took years for TOPS codes to be applied. Hope this helps. All the best, TMC Many thanks folks.... and that was certainly the case with wagons , they were the bottom of the pile when it came to non essential maintenance. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beancounter Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 thanks to you both for the information - David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Any updates would be welcome. Due in 2019 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 TMC's website shows Expected Q4 2021. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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