woodenhead Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: From a conversation I had today with somebody from Dapol I understand that the tooling changes are done (I know not what they are) and that further livery samples should be reaching the UK in the not too distant future. it's got a new wheel arrangement and grown a bit - it's now a Bulldog. Well one can hope Will be good to see the new tooling, not hanging around with this are they. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Just seen this on Rails website. Posted 5 days ago... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 They seem to be progressing faster with Dapol than with Bachmann.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Bachmann? They were never making the Terrier for Rails? Where you thinking of the Model Rail USA Tank that started with Dapol and ended with Bachmann? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 11 hours ago, truffy said: They seem to be progressing faster with Dapol than with Bachmann.... 11 hours ago, Pre Grouping fan said: Bachmann? They were never making the Terrier for Rails? Where you thinking of the Model Rail USA Tank that started with Dapol and ended with Bachmann? I presume he means the Caley 812...? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR Dave Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Wonder if progress would have been as fast if the Hornby product was not already on the shelves. I'm sure many (as I did), were going to wait and compare, but in the end went for the cheaper, possibly inferior but now available Hornby option. The Caley has no real competition to limit sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted May 22, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 22, 2019 Is there a list anywhere of the amendments and alterations? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 3 hours ago, GNR Dave said: The Caley has no real competition to limit sales. Perhaps that's why it took Bachmann 5 years to deliver the H2 then. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUCKOO LINE Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 I guess no one ha spotted Rails have posted an update https://railsofsheffield.com/news/articles/3006-terrier-update 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted June 14, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 14, 2019 Comparing to Hornby's offering. Chimney is not so elegant, obvious kink. Safety valves don't look right (oversize? - Hornby's look too simple) Condensing pipes also not as well reproduced. Curve looks too sharp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, melmerby said: Comparing to Hornby's offering. Chimney is not so elegant, obvious kink. Safety valves don't look right (oversize? - Hornby's look too simple) Condensing pipes also not as well reproduced. Curve looks too sharp. I don't think that photo of Bodmin is the improved version. Taken straight from the update: "Tooling modifications have taken slightly longer than anticipated. The new and improved decorated samples of all versions are expected Late June / Early July. Once these have been approved, production will be full steam ahead. Please note that the images shown are the FIRST decorated sample EP models. We are blown away with the level of detail on these models." Edited June 14, 2019 by Jack P 5 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted July 4, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2019 Do we have any further news on how this model is progressing? It seems like quite a while now since the last update... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Rails posted this on their website earlier today: https://railsofsheffield.com/news/articles/3006-terrier-update Its the same wording as other updates although it states that the decorated samples for all versions are due towards the end of the month. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Out of slightly more than idle curiosity, what would it take to convert Southern 2644 to push-pull duties? I read that Knowle had 1" smaller cylinders fitted, but no more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted July 22, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) Does anyone know if it is possible to cancel an order for one of these and if so, is the deposit refundable? Edited July 22, 2019 by John M Upton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, John M Upton said: Does anyone know if it is possible to cancel an order for one of these and if so, is the deposit refundable? It would be best to contact Rails directly I would Imagine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9402 Fredrick Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Pre Grouping fan said: It would be best to contact Rails directly I would Imagine I tried to, they are not cancelable. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 If you used a credit card, and the total value exceeds £75, surely that's where you obtain a refund on the basis of not delivered to required timescale. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Out of curiosity, what's the reason for cancellation? Is it simply taking too long and people have accepted that the Hornby model fits their needs and is available now (and was first, and i'd imagine will be in the future) Or is it something else? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Derek 19B Posted July 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2019 Yesterday Hornby's Stepney arrived , oiled its bits and placed on the track and of it went , no problems. My rails order is still there for a terrier i will look forward to comparing them. If as forecast they arrive later this year ( 2019) its really not been very long compared to some. Derek 19b 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted July 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2019 I'm very happy with my Hornby Terrier. I it runs extremely well out of the box and does look the part. A good layout loco. I'm not entirely convinced that the Rails version is worth the extra..........but reserve judgment until they arrive. Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9402 Fredrick Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 On 23/07/2019 at 06:07, 34theletterbetweenB&D said: If you used a credit card, and the total value exceeds £75, surely that's where you obtain a refund on the basis of not delivered to required timescale. I've got two on order, tried to get them cancelled once, it didn't work, once the pre-order is made for an exclusive model on RoS, unless it's optional to cancel due to price change/uodate, like the Caley 812, the exclusive models cannot be cancelled, regardless of wanting to or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, 9402 Fredrick said: I've got two on order, tried to get them cancelled once, it didn't work, once the pre-order is made for an exclusive model on RoS, unless it's optional to cancel due to price change/uodate, like the Caley 812, the exclusive models cannot be cancelled, regardless of wanting to or not. I somehow doubt that this sets aside the provisions of the consumer credit act. If a credit card was used and the value of the goods is over £100, (sorry got the amount wrong in previous post) then the card holder may claim. Frankly the vendor would be unwise to object. Let's say the transaction goes through. The customer will still be entitled to return for full refund, on whatever grounds they choose to find the supplied item 'unfit for purpose'. If this is distance selling they can have their return shipping refunded too. No model is perfect, and there's no appeal against the customer deciding that the chimney isn't quite the right shape, or lining is the wrong colour, or the cab opening is 3 scale inches undersize. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted July 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 hours ago, 9402 Fredrick said: I've got two on order, tried to get them cancelled once, it didn't work, once the pre-order is made for an exclusive model on RoS, unless it's optional to cancel due to price change/uodate, like the Caley 812, the exclusive models cannot be cancelled, regardless of wanting to or not. That cannot be right, surely? You cannot be compelled to purchase something you no longer want. Rails have contributed to this thread by way of updates. Perhaps some clarity from them is needed here. Rob. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted July 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2019 On 22/07/2019 at 16:58, John M Upton said: Does anyone know if it is possible to cancel an order for one of these and if so, is the deposit refundable? As per the Rails terms and conditions the deposits are non-refundable. Quote From time to time selected Rails Limited models require a deposit payment to secure. The deposit amount required will be shown on the product listing. Deposits are non-refundable. In exceptional circumstances, such as terminal illness or death, deposits may be refunded at the discretion of the Rails Manager. Please send your request in writing to Rails of Sheffield 21/29 Chesterfield Road, Heeley, Sheffield S8 0RL I can't see anything that says you cannot cancel. Roy 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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