cornamuse Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) So, here we go... another card loco! This time in 16mm scale on 45mm track (wrong gauge I know, but needs must). The tin turtle is from WW1, used in the trenches. This will be entry level, easy, cheap and hopefully rather robust as it is to be used by my 6yo. The parts are being designed and cut on my silhouette cutter- basically making a kit of parts then building them. Cheap plastic wheels and a basic motor may/may not be linked to a cheap radio control unit. This is the chassis: Out for a run, pushing a rather bright carriage based on the Ffestiniog work men's open ones. Now the visible chassis which will have the body built on it- the basic running chassis could be used for all sorts... Next stage will be all those lovely curves and many many tiny crafting gems that make good rivets in this scale. Edited August 30, 2021 by cornamuse 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rue_d_etropal Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 It will be interesting to see how the complex curved front turns out, having had the experience of trying to scratchbuild one, and then designing my 3D printed model. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornamuse Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 It will be interesting to see how the complex curved front turns out, having had the experience of trying to scratchbuild one, and then designing my 3D printed model. Have already had a go in 7mm scale- oddly, I find it more forgiving than this scale as you can just imply detail... and the panels can be made of thin card. On this I am using 4 laminations to make panels 2mm thick. Sturdy, by a pain to form to a nice curve! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornamuse Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 So onto the curves... a pain to form from 3 layers - inside 2 narrower to form a lip to increase the strength of the join. And now mounted on the chassis, being inspected by the increasingly notorious Willy Dribble. What does it say about me that my only figure is usually to be found using the urinals? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornamuse Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 And now with a roof. I thought this would be a nightmare, but the 3 laminations of card held the curve nicely on their own once the glue was dry. The roof ends are about 8 layers thick to provide a good thick edge for glueing. The roof supports are an inverted u to increase strength. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornamuse Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 And now... I bring you Elvis the Turtle! Rather tempted to leave it there; never had a bling loco before! The rivets are a bit big and not entirely accurately placed, but anyone bothered by that will already have given up looking at my models! 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornamuse Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 And now in green... Brunswick green, not khaki - see rule 1! I am really pleased with how the rivets look, too, even though they are a bit big. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornamuse Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 (edited) Today's project: a driver, as yet unnamed ( Private Parts; Major Disaster... you get the picture...) Possibly a little big, but, with some drastic surgery on his unmentionable regions, he should do ok. I know that people like to count buttons and insignia as much as rivets, but I encourage those people to look at his poor hands: buttons are the least of his worries!! Edited April 16, 2018 by cornamuse 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted April 17, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 17, 2018 And now... I bring you Elvis the Turtle! IMG_8405.JPG IMG_8404.JPG Rather tempted to leave it there; never had a bling loco before! The rivets are a bit big and not entirely accurately placed, but anyone bothered by that will already have given up looking at my models! Briefly, it had to be the world's first Rhinestone Tin Turtle! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKR Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I love your characters. They look suitably deranged for an imaginary railway What have you modelled them from? Also how is the Gainford extension progressing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornamuse Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 I love your characters. They look suitably deranged for an imaginary railway What have you modelled them from? Also how is the Gainford extension progressing? Deranged is a good word. it is clear he was conscious when I stuck the toothpick up his bum to help him stay seated! my son has named him Private Eye because of his appearance The figure is fimo, with an armature of tin foil to get the pose right and keep the thickness of clay (and price) down. The previous figure was solid clay and didn't bake as well. He was baked in stages to make life easier, as it sets the detail or pose before moving on to the next stage. so - head, hat, hands and boots first, with head glued into hat after baking and after major surgery. Then his legs were modelled with the boots in place, baked again, then body and hands were added. Finally the head and some small details like epaulets, buttons and pockets and then a final bake. Left to cool and then painted. not perfect, I know, but sort of fits the semi-real world I model. Speaking of which, Gainford is on standby until I work out how to bridge the window! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornamuse Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 And now for the guts... A fuel tank.. Hiding a speaker And a radiator hiding another one The engine cover will hide 2 circuit boards of the speaking greetings card variety. One will play a steady combustion engine chug, the other will sound an "arooga" klaxon on demand 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornamuse Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 Painted and installed- the driver has a lot less space than he would in reality, but I think it maintains the feel of the original. The electronics are fitted and working, a recording of a lister engine rather than simplex, as the chug sounded more convincing with the cheap sound unit- the simplex came out sounding like white noise. When I work out how, I will post a video... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornamuse Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 And now the video... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornamuse Posted May 3, 2018 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 Structural work complete... off to a friendly local wizard to have radio controlled stuff done. Apparently forward, reverse and honk may be possible, although I ain't left much space under the floor. So- the turtle's exhaust side- And with fake double doors open to reveal sound wiring intestines- Then on to normal viewing side. The doors stay open or closed by magnets in my version, although I may yet build the rather hefty catches. After the control, just couplers and a truck or two to construct! I'm intending building my own couplers, not because I have the holy grail of perfect coupling in my fevered imagination, but because I'm cheap 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornamuse Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 And in the daylight... 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted May 4, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 4, 2018 Real cardboard engineering, looks like armour plating. The only difference I can tell from the ex-Knowstrop Sewage Works one, discovered unrestored in Leeds industrial museum years ago is the paint is glossy! http://simplex.avlr.org.uk/booth.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornamuse Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 Next job: WD open bogie wagon, starting with a bogie, usual layered construction 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NeilHB Posted May 11, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2018 Brilliant work (as usual) Andy - the Tin Turtle looks excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornamuse Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) Evolution of buffers: Nail, filed vaguely oblong on the head, glued to the card buffer head- that has a recess on the rear formed by layers of card with a hole in Then strips of sticky label wrapped round the nail and soaked in superglue If you value your time at minimum wage, then they are more expensive than a £10 pair off tinternet, if you are time-rich like me, then happy days, although I must admit I can only stand a couple at a time! Works at least as well in 7mm scale- maybe better as your eye allows for the small details that are missing. Edited May 21, 2018 by cornamuse 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornamuse Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) Finally there is some progress on the WD bogie wagon. Sort of class D only shorter and only 1 door per side. Reason being the full size one would be too big to fit on a standard LGB panel (important for my evil plans....) As usual, mostly cardboard - mounting board and thick good-quality Bristol board. Non card parts- 8 plastic wheels, 2 axels, 2 bolts for the bearings on the bogies, 2 nails for the buffers, few washers to level things up. It is really solid, though. Runs nicely, especially after waxing the axelboxes and bearings - candle wax not grease or oil, because of the card- I don’t use metal bearings on the axels, seems to work so far... Turtle is back and radio controlled, thanks to John who is a bit clever at that (bloody amazing, more like. Just don’t ask what he thinks of my soldering) very nice proportional speed control, can crawl or trundle with amazing control. Driver has taken a break in the wagon as it was either him or the battery (or him with no legs - John wasn’t happy chopping someone else’s models up) so I may do a head and shoulders for the loco. Edited July 26, 2018 by cornamuse 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted July 26, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2018 Looking great! A question about the buffers - how will they couple together? Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornamuse Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) Been putting that off myself, trying to work it out. In the end, the same way as my white metal ones- a hole drilled through the shank of the buffer (widest point) then an n shaped metal rod between the buffers through the holes. Buffers never touch, but they can’t lock either, so not too bad. Easy and looks ok. Hole almost splits the nail in 2 - did on one of them- but the card and superglue seem to be holding everything together. As usual the aim is adequate to expected strength needs, rather than perfect engineering. Oh and nearly free- that’s important too Edited July 26, 2018 by cornamuse 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornamuse Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share Posted July 27, 2018 Working on the brake gear now. Tempted to make it work, or is that just sad? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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