A couple of LT Dreadnought carriage questions

[jimmysbow]

Hello

 

I have recently picked up a rake of Harrow models Dreadnought kits.

 

Can anyone help me with the following please:-

 

What livery did the LT Dreadnoughts carry in the late 1950's. Were they still in teak or repainted into maroon, also were the roofs painted red and the carriage ends painted red as well (or were just the brake ends ).?

 

Is there anyone who manufactures K2 bogies which these carriages were fitted with at this time?

 

Thanks in advance

 

John

[johnb]

Hello

 

I have recently picked up a rake of Harrow models Dreadnought kits.

 

Can anyone help me with the following please:-

 

What livery did the LT Dreadnoughts carry in the late 1950's. Were they still in teak or repainted into maroon, also were the roofs painted red and the carriage ends painted red as well (or were just the brake ends ).?

 

Is there anyone who manufactures K2 bogies which these carriages were fitted with at this time?

 

Thanks in advance

 

John

 

They were repainted into a mid-brown livery and unlined, not into maroon. Same as the 'T' stock and the Chesham push-pull Ashbury sets. IIRC the roofs were grey, usually well weathered from the steam locos used north of Ricky.

 

The only ends painted red were the brake ends. Probably the red then used to the O/P and F stock around that time, again well weathered by the steam locos.  I recall that the other coaches had dirty brown ends.

 

As for the bogies, I don't personally know of a source, but Radley Models produce Dreadnought kits, maybe worth seeing if they will do the bogies as separate items.

 

John

[Jeff Smith]

John - are these the original white metal ones? Assembled or still kits?

 

See my LT P4 thread below. Mine was a resin one from Radley about 5 years ago and came with K2 bogies. I believe the kits have since been revised and now include underframe details.

Edited April 9, 2018 by Jeff Smith

[Nearholmer]

Mr Snowdon, who I believe ‘wrote the book’ on Met coaches is a member here, so see if you can find him.

[Lord of Narnia]

The new dreadnoughts are resin with metal bogies either the old fox type or K2s.

 

The K2s are available separately as they are used in the Q stock kits.

 

Give Phil a call I’m sure he can sort you out.

[jimmysbow]

Thank you all for taking the time to help me out. Great info about the livery.

 

The kits are the original Harrow white metal body variety with sparse underframe detail (although I plan to do something about that!)

 

Will give Radley's  a call re the K2 bogies;

 

Best Regards

 

John

[Jeff Smith]

Thank you all for taking the time to help me out. Great info about the livery.

 

The kits are the original Harrow white metal body variety with sparse underframe detail (although I plan to do something about that!)

 

Will give Radley's  a call re the K2 bogies;

 

Best Regards

 

John

 

You will need a powerful loco to pull those.  I have three white metal Standard Stock Underground cars which are of course smaller than the dreadnoughts.  Two are power cars with powered bogies.....

 

Take note in my thread about the ride height.

 

Good luck,

Jeff

[jimmysbow]

Hi Jeff

 

Love your Dreadnought on your thread, nice work!

 

The Harrow Dreadnought kits I have consist of white metal sides, but the rest of the bodies are resin so weight not too much of an issue. I have a Heljan met Bobo to pull them.

 

Know what you mean about the Harrow LT unit kits they are darn heavy and take a bit of shifting.

 

Regards

 

John