Edwardian Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 We've had all this in about half a dozen threads. Do we really need to start discussing the same old crap again? Could we just leave this for news about what is happening with Coopercraft rather than a thirty page discussion about 3D kits..... Jason Insightful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) I find this auction extravagance absurd. The virtue of these ranges were that they were relatively inexpensive. Once you get to these auction prices, you may as well be buying the latest generation resin or metal kits. I have enough Cooper Craft GW wagons and Slater's Midland. It's the latter's coaches I chiefly lament. As has been pointed out, the standard MR wagons are now available via POWsides and Bill Bedford does at least the ubiquitous D299. I think you will find all forms of kits have gone up considerably over the years, some of it is down to raw material costs, mostly the cost of running a business, rents, business rates, energy and the cost of having employees have all taken their toll, the days of cheap kits is sadly long gone I guess the cost of a production run using existing moulds is far less expensive than creating a new kit, but for plain wagons I guess you are looking at a tenner a go, reintroduction of these I guess is lower risk. As for the coaches, they are far more than just a quick shot of injection moulding. Would be great to see them back again, but I assume it would be a major investment to do so. What would be good is a strong indication of the ranges future and timescales Edited April 18, 2018 by hayfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 What would be good is a strong indication of the ranges future and timescales Where is Mystic Meg when you need her? Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I think everybody should move on, Coopercraft is dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Where is Mystic Meg when you need her? To be fair, she probably didn't see this coming. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew F Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I think everybody should move on, Coopercraft is dead. Maybe so but it has been fascinating to read "The Turf Burners" ongoing story and discover exactly how much help consumer protection offers the consumer; what do they do? ; how do they justify their wages? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free At Last Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Andrew F, on 18 Apr 2018 - 11:16, said:Maybe so but it has been fascinating to read "The Turf Burners" ongoing story and discover exactly how much help consumer protection offers the consumer; what do they do? ; how do they justify their wages? ...and how much sympathy those that take peoples money without providing the goods get from some. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Insightful Maybe not. But many of us aren't interested in 3D and it has no relevance whatsoever to Coopercraft. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I think everybody should move on, Coopercraft is dead. Not necessarily. I know that at least one manufacturer wants them. It even says as much on their website.... Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp1 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Not necessarily. I know that at least one manufacturer wants them. It even says as much on their website.... Jason Interesting- give us a clue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Interesting- give us a clue? https://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/products/exkirk Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 https://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/products/exkirk Jason I failed to find any reference there ? Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) I failed to find any reference there ? Regards It says "maybe one day". On the other hand "maybe" it will never happen. Edited April 18, 2018 by Horsetan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted April 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) It says "maybe one day". On the other hand "maybe" it will never happen. Like Free Beer tomorrow? That's a thought, perhaps Peco could help. Edited April 18, 2018 by TheSignalEngineer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Well the full quote is. Currently we are only able to offer the 4mm (OO, EM, S4) Southern range of kits. Maybe, oneday, we will be able to offer more. It shows they are interested. If nothing else. Yes I might be clutching at straws. But many thought we would never see the Southern coaches again either. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 https://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/products/exkirk Jason Then it will die a second time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Then it will die a second time! Why? I've bought a dozen Maunsell coaches from Phoenix without any problems. I'm just waiting for the Bulleids to come back into stock. And yes, they've been in stock. That suggests that people are actually buying them. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted April 18, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2018 They could be referring to the 7mm range still owned by Mr Kirk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharris Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 what is e-@@@ ? If you mean e-bay then why not say so? Mentioning eBay is fine on this site, so long as your post is written by an actor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 It says "maybe one day". On the other hand "maybe" it will never happen. I read that to refer to Kirk coaches other than Southern, how do you extend it to Coopercraft wagons, which were never Kirk so far as I know. Rgds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted April 18, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2018 Coopercraft is dead. Long live Slater's! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted April 18, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2018 I read that to refer to Kirk coaches other than Southern, how do you extend it to Coopercraft wagons, which were never Kirk so far as I know. Rgds That would be the LNER kirk coach kits range owned by Coopercraft. No one mentioned wagons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted April 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2018 I think everybody should move on, Coopercraft is dead. While the site is still taking money with no prospect of refund or delviery of the purchased product I disagree. Threads like this might stop someone losing their money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 While the site is still taking money with no prospect of refund or delviery of the purchased product I disagree. Threads like this might stop someone losing their money.It doesn't seem to have had that effect so far. RMwebbers are still posting their complaints, but it should, surely, have been obvious some time a ago that here is a significant risk of not getting the goods and losing money. I know this might seem harsh, but I have lost sympathy with the complainants, it seems to me they walked into this matter with their eyes wide shut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted April 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2018 Not really when only the first page carries a warning - go directly to a product page via google or similar and you're screwed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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