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The project began harmless and innocent with a surplus coach roof... Fellow Alexander asked me for a body for it and provided the dimensions. Not another railcar, but a second/baggage would be fine. I made a first attempt, but didn't like it...


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AlexKasten3 by Michael Carl, on Flickr


 


The second attempt was a little on the posh side, but much better:


 


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AlexKasten1 by Michael Carl, on Flickr


 


And then, one evening, the project, developed a momentum of its own... I created a second, a second/mail and a baggage/mail., plus fronts for railcar/driving car use. I began to dream of a three unit DMU:


 


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AlexKasten2 by Michael Carl, on Flickr


 


Then the drawings had to be broken up in parts, and the lasercutting took place. The parts for the first one:


 


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aP1300208 by Michael Carl, on Flickr


 


The first parts assembled:


 


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aP1300247 by Michael Carl, on Flickr


 


The mounting of the interior started:


 


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aP1300250 by Michael Carl, on Flickr


 


Michael


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Hi John,

 

thanks for the compliments. I use 1mm birch ply for the outer body, 0.8 mm birch ply for the doors and 1mm MDF for the rest. The sheets are usually 250x500 mm. The window frames, luggage shelves and some other parts are made of 0.5mm cardboard.

 

Michael

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After making some small coaches and vans in wood, I often wondered why there are not more kit manufacturers producing this style of kit. I find wood to be much more forgiving that brass (soldering irons and I don't get along.)

 

It looks excellent, any chance you might do up a free-lanced light railway standard gauge coach?

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Thanks for the likes and the comment! 

 

 

After making some small coaches and vans in wood, I often wondered why there are not more kit manufacturers producing this style of kit.

 

 

Although a metal crafter by trade, I like wood and MDF too. It's easy to get a precise and neat result, but many modelers still consider it as as something cheap and shabby...

 

Btw., Do you know Diagram3D?

 

http://www.diagram3d.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=59

 

 

It looks excellent, any chance you might do up a free-lanced light railway standard gauge coach?

 

 

To be honest: Not really at the moment...  I know very little about SG light railways, and I have started too much NG projects in the last weeks. But, at least, you have sparked my curiosity... What do you have in mind, do you have some photos as inspiration, a loading gauge, etc. ? Maybe I can adapt something.

 

All the best

Michael

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Thanks for the kind coment!


 


The coach had his first outing at the module meeting in Stromberg. Alexander provided the roof and the Bachmann 0n30 chassis he choosed to use:


 


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aP1310051 by Michael Carl, on Flickr


 


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aP1310053 by Michael Carl, on Flickr


 


Some heavier modification was necessary at the interior, because I didn't have a proper inner profile of the roof when I made the drawings. But this changes will be incorporated for  the next version. Next step is a 3-unit DMU for me... default_1.gif


 


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Thanks for the kind comment!

 

The coach had his first outing at the module meeting in Stromberg. Alexander provided the roof and the Bachmann 0n30 chassis he choosed to use:

 

... Next step is a 3-unit DMU for me... default_1.gif

 

 

Those Bachmann / Spectrum On30 coaches offer lots of potential for conversion projects - and not just the chassis, either (although they are rather good).

 

I'm currently looking at using the domed clerestory roof from one of them, in a standard gauge "kitbash" project - very loosely based on a real railbus. (The lack of readily available information on my chosen prototype allows me plenty of scope for "homebrew" adaptations - this should make life easier for me ... .)

 

I also reckon the chassis from some basic OO gauge models might be useful for O-16.5 / Oe / On30 conversions:

  • Hornby's (ex-Lima) BR Mk1 CCT chassis has appeared as "models" and as "Thomas" themed toys. It's a very similar length to Fleischmann Magic Train coaches - and would be easy to adapt for "homebrew" conversions.
  • Lima also produced a basic BR Mk1 coach - which is sometimes available cheaply secondhand. A few years ago, a similar model was also offered with the (cheap) first part of a "partwork" - and some people said at the time that they were stockpiling them for conversion projects. (The ones mentioned at the time were "OO" standard gauge.) Actually, either of these models (and some others, if they're cheap) could be very useful for conversion into "O" narrow gauge bogie coaches and multiple units.

As for your planned 3 car DMU, I'm looking forward to this - it's likely to be very good.

 

I'll be watching this topic with interest.

 

 

Regards,

 

Huw.

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Thanks for the comment, Huw (and to all for the likes). What you said about the Mark1 coaches sounds very interesting - I had to order some bogies anyway, so I ordered two preowned LIMA coaches as well. I really look forward to them!

 

Michael

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First step of the DMU is a railcar, designed to take the chassis of a PIKO Taurus:

 

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aP1320337 by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

The window glazing is simple overhead projector foil, glued between the inner and outer walls:

 

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aP1320533 by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

Glueing the outer front wall:

 

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aP1320538 by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

Voilá:

 

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aP1320556 by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

The windows are masked, ready for painting:

 

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aP1320622 by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

Multiple designs for the front whiskers:

 

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Fronten2 by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

Uuups, the 3D printed roof was one millimeter too long... with a lot of filing i got the necessary space. For the next coaches I decided to cut the wall and use a piece of cardboard instead:

 

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aP1320625 by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

Painting in progress:

 

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aP1320626 by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

... and done:

 

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aP1340193 by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

The first design for the radiators:

 

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aP1340320 by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

Alternatives:

 

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Kühler Varianten by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

 

First public outing at the Stromberg fall meeting:

 

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Railcar and other projects by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

Enjoy

Michael

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Thanks for the kind comment and the likes! No need to be envy, John - your pointwork is also excellent (and requires skills I don't have...) !

 

Well, after the first unit for my DMU the next logical step should be the second unit - a second (class coach that is) But disgression came into play when I read a book on the rolling stock of the DEV, the first german heritage railway. Their coach Nr. 17 has an old fashioned, but new made body (and provides space for people in wheelchairs btw). 

 

http://www.museumseisenbahn.de/jfahrzeug/17.htm

 

I remembered a model of a fourth class/luggage/mail coach with clerestory roof I made some years ago. It was merged with the modular design, and voilá - we got a nice crossbreed with relatively little

 

CAD work. So it is actually a freelance model after a freelance prototype... The main body and the complete interior was adapted from the modular concept, the roof and some small parts came from the

 

clerestory coach, and the balconies were designed new.

 

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Oberlichtwagen by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

 

The cover strips are evergreen profiles, glued on with Faller Expert:

 

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aP1340426 by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

The banisters and roof brackets are made from cardboard:

 

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aP1340425 by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

Parts of the roof, with commercial detailing parts:

 

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aP1340433 by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

The inner body is assembled:

 

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aP1340435 by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

With the outer shell and the interior completed:

 

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aP1340454 by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

At this time I made a mistake, which nearly ruined all the work: I glued the outer shell too high on... Fortunately I was able to dismantle it with a thin knife, (additional caution and swearing), rework the parts and assemble it the right way. 

 

The aluminium window frames looked gorgeous, but seemed too modern tome:

 

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aP1340460 by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

So I choose wooden frames. And here it is in its full glory (footsteps, couplings and minor detailing parts still to be sorted):

 

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Tadaaaa by Michael Carl, auf Flickr

 

All the best

 

Michael

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Michael

 

Stunning, should be in boxes on the internet, though I guess it would be very time consuming and not very profitable

 

Thanks for the kind comment! A RTR model wouldn't be affordable, but at least I could provide a kit - joy of CAD and lasercutting...

 

All the best

 

Michael

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