rovex Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 With the expanding ban on single use plastic, how long before we see a return to tin trains to save the environment 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philsandy Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) Do you know if that's DCC ready? and has anyone done a P4 conversion on one of these? Edited April 19, 2018 by philsandy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Heljan have solved the issue of the exploding valve gear on the Lynton and Barnstaple engine I see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Heljan have solved the issue of the exploding valve gear on the Lynton and Barnstaple engine I see. Seemingly, we'd better ask Ben Jones for confirmation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I am sure I have used all my trains more than once! Besides, going back to this would be no hardship... But then again... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 ...Besides, going back to this would be no hardship... Current Hornby is making progress, items such as the recent B12/3 have mucho metal bodywork. And scale diameter all flanged wheels ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kylestrome Posted April 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 19, 2018 With the expanding ban on single use plastic, how long before we see a return to tin trains to save the environment Some of us will just carry on modelling with brass, nickel-silver, wood, card and paper. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted April 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 19, 2018 And of course not all single use plastics will be outlawed overnight, and indeed I can see some never being outlawed at all. Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 If the ban's only on single-use plastic, does that mean selling stuff on ebay "only taken out of box once, to test it" will be outlawed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I would have assumed that plastic used in a product intended for long term use would be exempt? I mean, which wally is whizzing their models in the bin after using them once? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbowilts Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I would have assumed that plastic used in a product intended for long term use would be exempt? I mean, which wally is whizzing their models in the bin after using them once? Remember this is being proposed by the same government ( actually the Civil Service) that gave us the Windrush fiasco, need I say more? flabbergasted of Calne 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I would have assumed that plastic used in a product intended for long term use would be exempt? I mean, which wally is whizzing their models in the bin after using them once? Yes, I would suggest 'single use plastics' means stuff intended to be used once then be thrown away - like a plastic drinks bottle, not like a model train. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmthtrains - David Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Single use is the big hint in the phrase - models won't be affected at all, but packaging will be. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I think people are panicking unnecessarily. It will have very little effect on any of us apart from a token ban on things like plastic straws. More than anything it's just a con to increase prices on recyclable items such as bottles and cans. Most of which get put in proper bins anyway. You'll also get the double whammy of the sugar tax and minimum alcohol price on many items as well. More education on recycling is the way to solve it. Not hammering people financially. Jason 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted April 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 19, 2018 I'm not so sure that NOT hammering people financially is the answer... We are all responsible for the waste we all create, and if things were to cost more we *might* move away from the throwaway society. But then again, looking at the way people treat mobile phones (and they are blooming expensive) I doubt that will happen. The real answer is a decrease in world population, which will naturally reduce demand for stuff, but I can't see that happing soon, as we still live in this fantasy world of growth or bust (which is probably growth and bust!). Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharris Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I mean, which wally is whizzing their models in the bin after using them once? That depends on how good they are at stopping them before they get to the end of the layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfsboy Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Was just planing a new layout built entirely from plastic drinking straws and cotton buds draped in nylon fishing net .oh well .There is always old nuclear waste and dead nappies I suppose . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharris Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 dead nappies I'm not sure I'd like the idea of living nappies though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PaulCheffus Posted April 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 19, 2018 More education on recycling is the way to solve it. Not hammering people financially. Hi That's ok provided the items are in recyclable packaging in the first place. There is little I can do if I buy something that is wrapped in use once plastic. This needs to start with the manufacturers rather than the consumers. Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 That depends on how good they are at stopping them before they get to the end of the layout. Ah - you have a Fleischmann DB Class 151 too ...................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted April 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 19, 2018 Reduce. Reuse. Recycle. Surely reducing the amount of plastic that gets used has to be a good thing - although starting on pre-packaged food would be a better place to start; Does anyone really need ready made mashed potato? I'm going to have to stock up on drinking straws - where else am I going to get my pipe loads from? Steven B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharris Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I'm going to have to stock up on drinking straws - where else am I going to get my pipe loads from? Now, if only fast-food retailers could be persuaded to give away brass tubing with their fizzy drinks instead of plastic straws... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Does anyone really need ready made mashed potato? Steven B. What are badgers meant to eat? Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharris Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 What are badgers meant to eat? Jason Cat food and honey apparently. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/apr/19/very-angry-badger-causes-part-of-scottish-castle-to-be-closed-to-public Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted April 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) Current Hornby is making progress, items such as the recent B12/3 have mucho metal bodywork. And scale diameter all flanged wheels ... Scale at the flange or scale at the rim? If one is right the other must be wrong, and it is usual to make the flange scale and the rim underscale as this can be justified by normal wheel wear. Making the flange overscale has implications for splasher clearance; in any case the splashers are in the wrong place as part of the 00 compromise. Edited April 19, 2018 by The Johnster 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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