RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 12, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 12, 2011 I think Coachmann identified this weakness a few pages back. Depending on whether the centre axle is sprung or allowed to drop below the level of the outer axles wlll determine if it's 16ft 6ins wheelbase will stall the engine on Peco lnsulfrog diamond crossings. The Bachmann Jinty 0-6-0T had to be modified slightly to prevent it stalling but the pesky rigid-chassis Hornby LMS 2-6-4T's were something of a problem and demanded carefully positioned track pins around the diamond. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I have a bachman Jinty (converted to EM using Gibson Wheels) which behaves in a very similar way on certain parts of the goods yard where the incline into the yard levels off and bottoms out - I know that the pickups engage the tyres, but it obviously loses contact at these points... Did you increase the sprung centre axle travel on the 3FT chassis? A little extra downward movement by cutting shallow recesses in the keeper plate sides makes a world of difference on uneven track. Sadly, Bachmann never seem to have had much recognition for putting sprung driven axles on their steam locos, and this feature has been gradually disappearing from newer introductions to the range. The WD had two sprung axles, the 9F just one, and the latest of the eight coupleds I have (G2A and ROD) none at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Regarding the Bachmann 3F 0-6-0T, I released the driving wheel keeper plate and pushed in a strip of 20thou plastikard either side of the middle axle then tghtened up the keeper plate. This allowed the middle drivers to drop and make electrical contact with the rails when the outer drivers were on Insulfrogs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy C Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Did you increase the sprung centre axle travel on the 3FT chassis? A little extra downward movement by cutting shallow recesses in the keeper plate sides makes a world of difference on uneven track. Yeah Ive introduced a bit of play, but only a little Im very cautious about fouling up an otherwise rather sweet running loco when its on the mainlines. Hence the High level chassis! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D605Eagle Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 You could put picups in the tender..did somebody suggest that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCAR6015 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I received an e-mail from Hattons yesterday to advise that: 31-626 3F BR black early emblem is due into stock on or after Tuesday 13/12/2012. Yeah! A Christmas present from me to me!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Anybody had the body off yet? I have a venerable K's 2F kit, the loco. body of which I would like to use on the chassis, and the Bachy tender too! interested how low the motor is. Cheers, Peter C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
northendboy Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 How do these work ? I have never heard of this before. Is it sort of an ''electronic flywheel'' ? It makes you wonder why all locos are not fitted with these at the factory. How much do they cost ? Hi Brian. Yes, it is indeed like an electronic flywheel. The Zimo decoder has a capacitor in the box with it that needs to be soldered on to two eye-strainingly small solder pads, and this retains enough charge to get it over small 'dead' areas on the track. It's not a perfect solution, but it works OK for those of us who lack the nerve to carry out the operations on the loco described above, or the willpower to improve the track condition. I used the Zimo because it was the only 21-pin decoder with 'stay alive' that I could get hold of at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltic Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Not Now!!!! "We thought you may like to know that an item you have asked us to notify when it arrives into stock, has had some information about its release date added or updated. Bachmann UK 31-626 Class 3F 0-6-0 43762 in BR Black with early emblem. £62.00 Our latest information from the supplier suggests this item will arrive with us on or after Tuesday 13th December 2011" Oh my aching wallet... 31-626 arrived at John Dutfield's in Chelmsford this very morning!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Regarding the Bachmann 3F 0-6-0T, I released the driving wheel keeper plate and pushed in a strip of 20thou plastikard either side of the middle axle then tghtened up the keeper plate. This allowed the middle drivers to drop and make electrical contact with the rails when the outer drivers were on Insulfrogs. Thanks for that tip Coachman. I have a Hornby 08 and Bachmann 03 that I can't get to run dead slow over pointwork - I will give it a try. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
signalmaintainer Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Not Now!!!! "We thought you may like to know that an item you have asked us to notify when it arrives into stock, has had some information about its release date added or updated. Bachmann UK 31-626 Class 3F 0-6-0 43762 in BR Black with early emblem. £62.00 Our latest information from the supplier suggests this item will arrive with us on or after Tuesday 13th December 2011" Oh my aching wallet... I feel your pain! Just got a request from Rails of Sheffield for a Paypal payment. My 31-626 should be here soon! I see I reserved this model in May 2010. Methinks the wait will be more than offset by the quality of the model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Re the tender brake gear. It is in the same plane as on other models, but because the tender frame has larger cut outs and the brake shoes are visible within these cut outs, to me it looks worse. I have an urge to replace it wheras on a K3 for example I don't. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Great news from Hattons five minutes ago... The early crest 3F has arrived, been billed, and will be packed. Edit 13.39 hrs : 3F packed and in post.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Brit70053 Posted December 14, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2011 Just notified by Hattons that my credit card is to be debited for Early Crest 3F, immaculate timing as I've just had December's Credit Card Bill delivered !! John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I have my BR Black early crest waiting to be collected, waiting untill a Howes 21pin chip with Jinty sound files on arrives at the same shop. I know it will not be totally accurate but it will be better than nothing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 me too on the card and 2 on their way to me ....sweet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Just a quick one folks. I've got a late crest one but I really fancied an early one. Anybody up for a swap? Battery tested only, otherwise unused. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Sorry Dave, my early crest 3F arrived today and it runs as sweet as a nut. All you need do it swop the tender of do a removal job and fit new transfers. I'll send you some if required! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Aye, I'm just being daft Larry. Been a long day and I think my head's partly unscrewed! I think I'm big enough to manage a new tender crest! What was I thinking! Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Brit70053 Posted December 16, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2011 Postal special from Liverpool arrived 07.45 this morning! I was hardly awake, but gratefully accepted package. Thanks Hattons and Royal Mail. Christmas may now commence! I was also hardly awake when I took the shots (I hope) accompany this post. Cheery Regards, John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlislecitadel Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Hi Dave, You might not want to be too hasty about getting an early crest one. When I get my paws on one of these its going to look like this http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=36197 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 When I get my paws on one of these its going to look like this Yay that's nothing..... Up the Lanks & Yorks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Is there anything definite on the arrival date of the LMS version ? I was going to buy the BR early crest but I want to wait and see what it looks like in LMS livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I was in KS Models this very lunchtime, and a courier entered the shop with a Bachmann parcel, including some LMS liveried 3Fs, so they are definitely in the UK. Those were accounted for by pre-orders though, so the shop won't have shelf stock (until a subsequent delivery, and I have no idea if he has more pre-orders waiting fufillment). Oh, and it looked just like a 3F carrying LMS livery. An early crest version is now doing it's test laps, and I like it very much in all respects. Was a while before I spotted the fall plate folded down behind the dragbox, very inconspicuous. Think I am going to have to tinker with the loco to tender link to get it close enough, an extra hole in the link probably. There was a 15" gap between the handrails of the cab rear and tender platform, and the closest approach I can get on the model is 6.5mm, which is visually oversize. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Think I am going to have to tinker with the loco to tender link to get it close enough, an extra hole in the link probably. The link between loco and tender is like an ani-loose. Just loosen the tender screw sufficient to push the second hole under the screw then tighten it. It's very close coupled though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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