rob D2 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 On 29/02/2020 at 11:02, atom3624 said: I'm in one of the departments within our company which travel a lot during the year, and we've just announced that there's no further international travel to, or visits from other offices until further favourable clarity and progress has been observed. It is a fast developing situation as you state which has to be handled in a responsible manner. Let's hope that it is contained sooner rather than later, and we can return to the lives as we knew them ... including receiving the back-ordered locomotives! Obviously it will be hoped that better containment procedures are clarified with an increased rate of cure from this dreadful virus. Good luck and best wishes to all. Al. Yep, there won’t be any airlines to go anywhere on shortly if it’s not sorted with the drop in bookings 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarr40 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 On 28/02/2020 at 11:28, Hattons Dave said: Morning all, The second shipment of our highly anticipated Class 66 models (comprising of codes H4-66-001 to H4-66-031) are expected to be in stock by the end of March 2020. This includes Digital ready, Digital fitted and Digital sound fitted models. We will provide an update on delivery for models H4-66-032 to H4-66-037 as soon as we can. You can pre-order available versions on THIS page of our website. I hope this helps. Cheers, Dave Hi Dave, Are you able to confirm if the latest 66s are still due for delivery by the end of March? I have a few on pre-order and just want to know if they are going to be available. Thanking you in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted March 19, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2020 15 hours ago, amarr40 said: Hi Dave, Are you able to confirm if the latest 66s are still due for delivery by the end of March? I have a few on pre-order and just want to know if they are going to be available. Thanking you in advance. Hello amarr40, As things stand we're still expecting them by the end of the month. If anything changes we'll be sure to let people know. Cheers, Dave 1 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted March 19, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) Hi all, We've received the production samples of the latest six variations of our Class 66 for review. We'll be showing these live on air on our YouTube channel at 3:00pm GMT today if you want a closer look. Cheers Dave Edited March 19, 2020 by Hattons Dave 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 50 minutes ago, Hattons Dave said: Hi all, We've received the production samples of the latest six variations of our Class 66 for review. We'll be showing these live on air on our YouTube channel at 3:00pm GMT today if you want a closer look. Cheers Dave That's good news Dave, will there be an update on the expected arrival of these models (as I understand it they are not coming this month)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Hattons Dave said: Hi all, We've received the production samples of the latest six variations of our Class 66 for review. We'll be showing these live on air on our YouTube channel at 3:00pm GMT today if you want a closer look. Cheers Dave Hi Dave, Is it safe to watch your YouTube channel? #coronavirus #washyourhandswithsoap #selfisolation Edited March 19, 2020 by truffy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, TomScrut said: That's good news Dave, will there be an update on the expected arrival of these models (as I understand it they are not coming this month)? It may be better to hold that question until after this afternoon's youtube broadcast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 31 minutes ago, Pete the Elaner said: It may be better to hold that question until after this afternoon's youtube broadcast. I did mean in the broadcast! I probably wouldn't bother watching it if there wasn't any useful delivery info! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted March 19, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2020 57 minutes ago, TomScrut said: That's good news Dave, will there be an update on the expected arrival of these models (as I understand it they are not coming this month)? Hi Tom, With the international situation as it is currently we haven't got an exact date for models H4-66-032 onwards, but rest assured we're doing everything we can to get them here as soon as possible. Cheers Dave 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Cheers Dave, I aren't really in a hurry for them (or should I say I aren't in a hurry to pay for them), just interested to know! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted March 19, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Hattons Dave said: Hello amarr40, As things stand we're still expecting them by the end of the month. If anything changes we'll be sure to let people know. Cheers, Dave Thanks for the update Dave. Mine (66-957 named for the SLS) will be here as and when it is, and in the current crisis safety for everyone is more important than rushing to get hold of the model. However, at least in the meantime (courtesy of Kernow's excellent virtual show deal offer) the rake of wagons I would have bought for it at Alexandra Palace is now on its way to me. Edited March 19, 2020 by john new Typos corrected Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dicky L Posted March 20, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 20, 2020 Thanks to Dave for the updates. can you confirm that this is the shade of Orange that 66623 will be supplied in please. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cairnsroadworks Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 On 19/03/2020 at 12:20, Hattons Dave said: Hi all, We've received the production samples of the latest six variations of our Class 66 for review. We'll be showing these live on air on our YouTube channel at 3:00pm GMT today if you want a closer look. Cheers Dave Hi Dave, Thanks for the update on the 66s. Can you confirm the shade of orange used on 66623 please? It looks like it’s the shade that is only used on the first one painted (the one Hornby released) rather than the now standard darker orange (similar to Loadhaul orange) - would you be able to show us a side by side comparison with the Hornby one? It looks way too light but understand that cameras do funny things to colours. the attached link shows the differences between the early orange and the standard darker orange - Thanks again for taking the time to contribute to this forum; it is much appreciated. Andi. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarr40 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Hi Dave, Your latest update says the following... Production samples have now been showcased for our second batch of Class 66s, which encompasses H4-66-032 to H4-66-037 in some of the more unusual contemporary liveries worn by the class. We will provide a delivery update for these and the outstanding models from Batch 1 as soon as possible. Does this mean that the first batch are delayed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 That new FL livery is growing on me.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 2 hours ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said: The lead loco in the picture is 66413 and was the first in the new colours as 66419 behind was painted 9 months later,this just looks like its age related fading to be honest.Theres plenty of 413 just after painting looking much the same as the trailing 419. It does look faded doesn't it? If it fades that much in 9 months, then maybe it was a poor choice of colour or paint formulation for the prototype? This makes it hard for a model manufacturer such as Hattons, because many of us will want to see it as we remember it, often from photos. Model as it is now & it will be too faded for some. Model it as new & it will not be faded enough for others. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris37422 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said: The lead loco in the picture is 66413 and was the first in the new colours as 66419 behind was painted 9 months later,this just looks like its age related fading to be honest.Theres plenty of 413 just after painting looking much the same as the trailing 419. 66413 was painted in the incorrect shade of orange when it was released from Arriva Train Care at Crewe. I believe the Americans at the launch observed it was the wrong shade and ultimately corrected the specification for future repaints. 66623 was the first to receive the amended/correct shade when painted at Eastleigh. There is definitely a difference between them. Unrelated to sheds but the G+W livery has seen a couple of adjustments on the way to getting it how they want it. 90044 recently finished at Arriva has the corrected orange but with a subtle difference with the main logo on the bodyside so the logo stands out more against the orange. HTH Edited March 21, 2020 by chris37422 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted March 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Pete the Elaner said: It does look faded doesn't it? If it fades that much in 9 months, then maybe it was a poor choice of colour or paint formulation for the prototype? This makes it hard for a model .......... Model as it is now & it will be too faded for some. Model it as new & it will not be faded enough for others. What we need is scale fading paint that changes over time in a prototypical fashion. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dicky L Posted March 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2020 Much has been said in the last few posts about the colour of 66623. paint fade is absolutely not the issue here. 413 has always been a light orange, 623 has always been darker Orange and still is. The question relates to whether the wrong colour has been used or is it an issue with the photo of the production model seen in the Youtube video and now on Hattons website. This can easily be resolved if the Hattons 66623 and Hornby 66413 are photographed together as requested by CairnsRoadWorks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 10 hours ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said: The lead loco in the picture is 66413 and was the first in the new colours as 66419 behind was painted 9 months later,this just looks like its age related fading to be honest.Theres plenty of 413 just after painting looking much the same as the trailing 419. 413 has a different spec' of orange than the later ones which is darker of which 419 is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cairnsroadworks Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 10 hours ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said: The lead loco in the picture is 66413 and was the first in the new colours as 66419 behind was painted 9 months later,this just looks like its age related fading to be honest.Theres plenty of 413 just after painting looking much the same as the trailing 419. As widely quoted already we know 413 was a different shade of orange. I’ve seen it with the old trusty mark 1 eyeball and it’s a lovely shade of tangerine compared to the more blood orange carried by all the subsequent repaints including 66623, also a regular past the back of my house. Not to mention that high quality two pack spray paint used on locos these days certainly doesn’t fade in 9 months! So that’s not the issue. It might be that as I said it’s a trick of the camera but clarification would be welcomed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cairnsroadworks Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Pete the Elaner said: It does look faded doesn't it? If it fades that much in 9 months, then maybe it was a poor choice of colour or paint formulation for the prototype? This makes it hard for a model manufacturer such as Hattons, because many of us will want to see it as we remember it, often from photos. Model as it is now & it will be too faded for some. Model it as new & it will not be faded enough for others. It’s not faded, it’s a different (pale!) shade of orange. Incidentally the same shade of orange as modelled on the Grand Central 90s. if the paint was faded then so would be the black and the yellow, which are clearly identical to the black and yellow on 419 behind. Edited March 21, 2020 by cairnsroadworks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, cairnsroadworks said: if the paint was faded then so would be the black and the yellow, which are clearly identical to the black and yellow on 419 behind. Not necessarily, since different pigments age at different rates, depending on their specific properties and environmental conditions such as light temperature. But, overall, I agree that this is not a fading issue. If it'd faded that much in 9 months, someone's made a major error! Edited March 21, 2020 by truffy clarification 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesTor Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Lighter? Darker? It's a Bl**dy 'Orrible Orange whichever way you look at it! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted March 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21, 2020 7 hours ago, Colin_McLeod said: What we need is scale fading paint that changes over time in a prototypical fashion. Easily done - just leave the model on a windowsill and turn occasionally. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now