Class 66 in OO Gauge - New Announcement

[Marcoblanco]

Maybe it would even things out everyone who has got a 66 with no problems to post here  with just a 'all fine' and have a count up, that might give those of us looking to buy a fairer reflection of the model. 

[Br60066]

26 minutes ago, Marcoblanco said:

Maybe it would even things out everyone who has got a 66 with no problems to post here  with just a 'all fine' and have a count up, that might give those of us looking to buy a fairer reflection of the model. 

 

Would it be possible to make a poll or something like that? Kind of like this:

• Completely fine out of box
• Minor issues easily fixed
• Major problems requiring major work or model replacement

[Shoey]

I’ve been greedy and have 17 in total. Photos show the loco numbers/product codes. I have checked and tested all 17. Some are dc and some are DCC fitted (no sound fitted ones) I’ve had 6 out of the 17 that wobble, I have removed the axle box covers on the ones that wobble and it immediately eliminated the wobble on all 6 and they run smooth and wobble free at all speeds. I’ve tested them in both directions at all speeds across some Hornby code 100 points (R8077 & R8078) and none of them derailed. The ones that wobbled were:

DB Schenker 66097

DB Schenker 66118

Freightliner Powerhaul 66504

Freightliner 66502

Freightliner 66513

Freightliner 66621

I have not removed the body on any of them (as I have no need to at the moment) but straight out of the box there were no parts that had come loose and everything was/is intact. Out of the 17 I have one (DRS 66301) that has one axle box cover missing which isn’t in the box which I’m sure Hattons will supply me with once they have them in stock. Nameplates are firmly fixed in place and are all level (to my eyes anyway!) no glue marks or any other kind of imperfections to the paintwork. Overall, I have to say I am over the button moon with them, down to performance and detail. Going on my experience, I’d recommend them to anyone contemplating buying one.

[TomScrut]

57 minutes ago, Br60066 said:

 

Would it be possible to make a poll or something like that? Kind of like this:

• Completely fine out of box
• Minor issues easily fixed
• Major problems requiring major work or model replacement

 

Multiple votes per user allowed

[john new]

2 hours ago, TomScrut said:

 

Multiple votes per user allowed

 

Or an alterable number box. For example @Shoey has posted above that he has 6 (possibly seven) with faults and 10 or 11 that are OK, I doubt he would want to post 17 times!

 

His post also suggests only about 1/3rd have the faults.

 

Edited April 5, 2020 by john new
Added the word only.

[newbryford]

1 hour ago, Br60066 said:

 

Would it be possible to make a poll or something like that? Kind of like this:

• Completely fine out of box
• Minor issues easily fixed
• Major problems requiring major work or model replacement

 

There will be some purchasers who may consider it a minor issue but still requiring replacement.......

[Marcoblanco]

Thanks shoey.. 17!!

BTW, If  you get bored with any of that lot you can send me one.. 

[TomScrut]

3 minutes ago, john new said:

 

Or an alterable number box. For example @Shoey has posted above that he has 6 (possibly seven) with faults and 10 or 11 that are OK, I doubt he would want to post 17 times!

 

His post also suggests about 1/3rd have the faults.

 

 

I think the post was wanting a poll somewhere in the thread so I was thinking it would be a case of clicking 17 times rather than making 17 posts.

 

But either way if something like this does happen it does need to be so that multiples can be done. Also given that some will be returning units and getting ones that may or may not also need replacing votes would be needed for those!

[Br60066]

7 minutes ago, john new said:

 

Or an alterable number box. For example @Shoey has posted above that he has 6 (possibly seven) with faults and 10 or 11 that are OK, I doubt he would want to post 17 times!

 

Very good point. Looking at the forum quite a few people have bought multiple models so this feature would be appreciated.

7 minutes ago, newbryford said:

 

There will be some purchasers who may consider it a minor issue but still requiring replacement.......

Those were just some suggestions. You make a good point though. It would take consideration to make sure catagories dont alienate anyones experience with the class 66. Maybe if people could add their own catagories it would solve that.

Edited April 5, 2020 by Br60066
Spelling error

[TomScrut]

2 minutes ago, Br60066 said:

Maybe if people could add their own catagories it would solve that.

 

The difficulty with things like that is that sometimes it results in loads of categories with just one vote which in turn means the message is actually cluttered.

 

I think the returned or not returned isn't that relevant, more minor or major issues regardless of how it was solved.

[big jim]

2 minutes ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said:

To those sitting on the fence do i dont i,you will be sorry if you dont buy one

im on the fence as given the current situation worldwide i simply can’t afford to frit away £150 on a toy when I may need it for bartering for fuel and medical supplies when the apocalypse comes! 

 

 

 

[Dicky L]

I have just uploaded another video of the Hattons 66. 

 

I think it’s sometimes nice for some positivity to break out occasionally. 

 

 

[big jim]

My god that sounds good! 
 

layout is a cracker too 

['CHARD]

4 minutes ago, big jim said:

layout is a cracker too 

 

Extremely realistic and very contemporary - the station is completely deserted!

[gary_lner]

2 minutes ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said:

Its the sound and the drive lock feature where you can throttle it up and creep it along thats sold these.its light years beyond the Bchmann one,

all the ohhno ive missed the sound, you could have it done at a later date by Leggobiff anyway so nothing lost if you buy one now.

 

I'm one of the ones who missed out on them so I'm kicking myself. I do have a large logo 66 that'll be getting fitted with sound as soon as hattons get the decoders in stock. Apparently they are all in Germany atm. Just need to stick it on a rolling road and see how it runs before then. 

[43078shildoncountydurham]

Anybody EM/P4 one yet?
 

Regards

 

Craig

 

[atom3624]

 

Not Hattons' 66, but an excellent insight into the intricacies of model locomotive manufacture I think.

 

Al.

[john new]

Having just completed a detailed examination of the supplied livery on 66957 (The Society named engine) as part of my review of it for a future SLS Journal could one of the experts on contemporary Freightliner livery please answer the queries below:- 

 

1) Has the green that sits behind the large Freightliner logo on the bodysides gone from lighter, as it definitely was in 2009 for the naming ceremony (and as it still was in a close-up photo of the nameplate in my collection as in May 2013), to darker as on the supplied model? With the follow up - if yes - when? 

 

2) When were the round topped cabside logos added that are visible in many on-line photos of the engine (post-2016) first added? These are not on the model either.

 

Thanks in advance for any info' supplied; if you would like to be correctly credited for the info' please PM me any real names that differ from your on-line pseudonym.

 

Edited April 5, 2020 by john new

[Mark Saunders]

4 minutes ago, john new said:

 

2) When were the round topped cabside logos added that are visible in many on-line photos of the engine (post-2016) first added. These are not on the model.

 

 

Do you mean the fifty year logo that was applied in 2015 to all of them and seems to have been on them for about two years till removed!

[john new]

49 minutes ago, Mark Saunders said:

 

Do you mean the fifty year logo that was applied in 2015 to all of them and seems to have been on them for about two years till removed!

Thanks for that.

 

Probably yes, still on some in See later responses, it was the Zero Injuries logo and in photos as late as 7th Jan 2020*. We don't get them down here in the 3rd rail desert of Dorset and modern traction is not a prime interest of mine (hence asking the questions to get the review accurate). Also makes sense as to why they have left it off if this is supposed to be an "as now" model. All my own detail photos of it are from the 2009 naming plus a few later one's sent in for Journal illustrations plus obviously the many available via Google images.

 

Please respect copyright.

Edited April 5, 2020 by john new
Better info' supplied.

[Mark Saunders]

or is it the Zero Injuries?

[john new]

26 minutes ago, Mark Saunders said:

or is it the Zero Injuries?

 

Thank you for that Mark. That's definitely the one I had spotted in on-line photos. Was just about to post a link to a clear shot of it taken at Ipswich in 2018. Are they still on 66957 - this photo shows they were in January? They are not on the model.

 

For a non-modern traction specialist this dating of livery options is a bit of nightmare, to say the least! 

 

Was the gold 50 year logo carried by  66957, and if yes when and where was it applied on the loco?

 

 

Edited April 5, 2020 by john new
As with my post above - better info' now known.

[Mark Saunders]

As far as I can tell/remember the 50 year logo was on them all and was slowly removed after about two years!

 

The Zero injuries came in with the acquisition of Freightliner by Genesee and Wyoming.

[MRDBLUE17]

25 minutes ago, john new said:

 

Thank you for that Mark. That's definitely the one I had spotted in on-line photos. Was just about to post a link to a clear shot of it taken at Ipswich in 2018. Are they still on 66957 - this photo shows they were in January? They are not on the model.

 

For a non-modern traction specialist this dating of livery options is a bit of nightmare, to say the least! 

 

Was the gold 50 year logo carried by  66957, and if yes when and where was it applied on the loco?

 

 

Hi John,

 

A few Freightliner 66’s carried a 40th year sticker 1965-2005 for a couple of years. 66540 Ruby was named to celebrate the occasion. Bachmann did a club model of it and I’ve 66952 with the stickers on. I’ve no idea how many and which numbers actually got them.    If you search 66540 on Flickr you should find an image of the sticker to at least help a bit. 
 

thanks

Mark

[SouthernMafia]

I've been enjoying running my sound 66621 up and down, it really is an excellent sound project from Biffo and I've passed on my praise.

 

We discussed the radar hiss, which is quite a prominent sound to the 66, and it was a shame to hear this was to be 'off' by default, and turned on by F14, which is a pain to to get to on a NCE controller.

Bif kindly provided me with some CVs to tweak, and now I have radar hiss activated all the time when the loco is moving, being heard every 25 seconds, much better. Here's what was tweaked to achieve this, must be done in this order:

 

CV31 = 16,

CV32 = 9, 

CV312 =  32

 

This maps the hiss sound to F1, and works well for me.

There is a slight problem when changing direction in that radar hiss is deactivated again, but pressing F1 (or F14 in original format) off and on again quickly reactivates it. With the fade out/in of the sounds when pressing F1 whilst moving, the sound never actually goes off provided you do it quick enough, so it's not noticeable.

 

Next job is to sort out the lights!

 

Edited April 5, 2020 by SouthernMafia