RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 30, 2020 Well I’ll put my hands up and say the info i had was a red herring, I was told it was going to be ‘Nightingale’ 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted April 30, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) Thanks Jim, and I would say calling the loco 'Nightingale' would have been much more appropriate on so many levels than after Captain (Colonel) Tom Moore. Granted he has given rise to a splendid fund raising effort, but if you are going to honour the'NHS' at least honour a figure who is associated with our health service. Florence Nightingale did more to influence and improve care of infections etc and subsequently save lives than any charity fundraiser no matter how inspirational they are. I do feel a little deflated by this announcement no matter how well intentioned. IF I do buy a model version the first thing I will do is rename it 'Nightingale', my own tribute to my colleagues in the NHS.. Edited April 30, 2020 by 7013 spelling 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIRCLASS80 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I would imagine the name was picked as a good news story among all the doom and gloom. I’m sure there will be other locos and units named after the many hero’s of this pandemic especially the NHS. As a nation hopefully we all come to have a greater respect for the key workers in all sectors. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, 7013 said: Thanks Jim, and I would say calling the loco 'Nightingale' would have been much more appropriate As much as I dislike lauding politicians, Aneurin Bevan would also be a good candidate, since he pretty much founded the NHS (although it wasn't necessarily his idea). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 800 025 was also given the same name yesterday! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, 7013 said: Thanks Jim, and I would say calling the loco 'Nightingale' would have been much more appropriate on so many levels than after Captain (Colonel) Tom Moore. Granted he has given rise to a splendid fund raising effort, but if you are going to honour the'NHS' at least honour a figure who is associated with our health service. Florence Nightingale did more to influence and improve care of infections etc and subsequently save lives than any charity fundraiser no matter how inspirational they are. I do feel a little deflated by this announcement no matter how well intentioned. IF I do buy a model version the first thing I will do is rename it 'Nightingale', my own tribute to my colleagues in the NHS.. Personally,I disagree. It’s got “ NHS “ on the side , nightingale isn’t relevant to the current situation other than the name of those under utilised hospitals . If you want to honour those who have fallen on the NHS frontline , I’d take an American phrase that’s very apt “ All gave some, Some gave all”. And you can’t really lump Tom in with the rest of the fundraisers. No other single person ( at the age of 100 ) has generated 30 million quid. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Godfrey Glyn Posted April 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 30, 2020 Happy for it to be called whatever grabs the attention of the public and certainly whatever you think, the good captain has grabbed the attention of the general public; more concerned that when (if) this pandemic recedes the general public will vote for the additional money our NHS and Care Services need to provide the service we want rather than being starved of funding as they have been over the last years. If that is too political I apologise but the funding of any national service, be it health, education or transport etc is a political decision and too often we, the general public get the politicians we deserve. Another nice painting job done by the team at Eastleigh, well done guys! all the best Godfrey 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted April 30, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 30, 2020 54 minutes ago, rob D2 said: nightingale isn’t relevant to the current situation other than the name of those under utilised hospitals . Read Florence Nightingales story, no single person in history did more to fight the spread of infection than she did, but its all a matter of personal opinion. As long as those that have given and those that are giving are honoured. I like your 'All Gave Some, Some Gave All' that sums it up really. Whilst the money Toms efforts have raised is incredible, I would say anyone who has made an effort to raise money should be recognised. I suppose money talks though, that's GBP30 million the govt. can withhold from its future funding. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted April 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 30, 2020 Looks like it's impossible to please everyone. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) I think Captain Tom Moore is much more than a fund raiser alone, he become for the people in your country someone to hold on in this heavy times with over 26000 dead on the moment. People see that even if you are 100 years of age, you can achieve a lot, he united the people and give them hope. I think he is a little bit as Winston Churchill who gave people hope and believe in WW2, it's not war now but there is a unvisible enemy. I think he is an hold on to many people now. He earned to get this loco named to him, he didn't asked for anything but he's worth it. After all Winston Churchill got a named loco too. If people see this loco, everybody knows Tom Moore now, wondering how many people know if its named Nightingale would mean. So its up to your Queen now, " Sir" Tom would appropiate. If singers got a title why not him. I was very moved this morning when i see the fly past, to honour his birthday and what he have done for your country Edited April 30, 2020 by Cor-onGRT4 2 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted April 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Colin_McLeod said: Looks like it's impossible to please everyone. Are you new to the forum ? 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted April 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 30, 2020 Given the timeliness of events, and the long lead times out of china, a better route maybe a specialist commission of resprays, and maybe consider to auction them with funds above a baseline offered to charity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, 7013 said: Read Florence Nightingales story, no single person in history did more to fight the spread of infection than she did, but its all a matter of personal opinion. As long as those that have given and those that are giving are honoured. I like your 'All Gave Some, Some Gave All' that sums it up really. Whilst the money Toms efforts have raised is incredible, I would say anyone who has made an effort to raise money should be recognised. I suppose money talks though, that's GBP30 million the govt. can withhold from its future funding. Alexander Flemming might say something about that... Edited April 30, 2020 by The Black Hat 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles73128 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, adb968008 said: Given the timeliness of events, and the long lead times out of china, a better route maybe a specialist commission of resprays, and maybe consider to auction them with funds above a baseline offered to charity. Hornby R30069...………. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Oh dear Hornby are doing it as a ltd edition . hope there’s a quality version for those who want one too 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, rob D2 said: Oh dear Hornby are doing it as a ltd edition . hope there’s a quality version for those who want one too At present the Hornby website is generating 502/504 errors like nobodys business... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted April 30, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 30, 2020 55 minutes ago, The Black Hat said: Alexander Flemming might say something about that... Yes I did think about Fleming who discovery of Penicillin was the game changer when it came to treating infection. The work Florence Nightingale did in the Crimea set out the blueprint for preventing cross infection, hygiene on wards and much more that has changed little over the years. Both apart from Nightingale being the name of the Hospital and how the ward was set out nothing to do with the 66 thread. When all is said and done hopefully Captain Tom Moore will be remembered alongside these people as a man who never gave up wanting to help people even at 100 years old, so he can stand alongside Fleming and Nightingale as a person who gas gone some way to changing history even if it is slightly different way. He deserves his name on a 66 and more. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dicky L Posted April 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 30, 2020 Photo of a bog standard run the mill unnamed dirty shed anyone? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, Dicky L said: Photo of a bog standard run the mill unnamed dirty shed anyone? Was that the one I saw earlier at York on Railcam? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 May be mistaken but didn't Ms. Nightingale have several rather large hospitals named after her ... Colonel Tom has been an inspiration to those suffering through this horrendous pandemic - I think it's just and correct. Now back to the Hattons 66 .... just a question, but how did that Transit get next to the signal box? !! Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dicky L Posted April 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 30, 2020 40 minutes ago, atom3624 said: May be mistaken but didn't Ms. Nightingale have several rather large hospitals named after her ... Colonel Tom has been an inspiration to those suffering through this horrendous pandemic - I think it's just and correct. Now back to the Hattons 66 .... just a question, but how did that Transit get next to the signal box? !! Al. down the Network Rail access ramp. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Good bit of driving then .... particularly for the exit! Nice layout - impressive. Al. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted April 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 30, 2020 9 hours ago, 7013 said: Read Florence Nightingales story, no single person in history did more to fight the spread of infection than she did, but its all a matter of personal opinion.. I agree Florence Nightingale was an incredible person with an enormous legacy, but isn’t the naming of the emergency hospitals themselves as “Nightingale” hospitals an acknowledgment of this? I think naming the loco after Capt/Col Tom Moore is a great idea. And lovely paint job by Eastleigh, as has been said above. Cheers Ben A. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted May 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2020 I didn’t even notice this was the hattons thread! maybe talk should move over to the dedicated Hornby NHS 66 thread 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, 7013 said: Its strange how Hornby have (temporarily) taken over the Hattons 66 thread People seem to have finished complaining about the Hattons one on here. Most must either have got their dodgy ones fixed or sent back. Plenty of complaining still going on on Facebook though! 13 minutes ago, 7013 said: I would like to believe that Hattons would be able to produce a high end version in the future Likewise, even though I ordered a Hornby one (only because I saw it as a loco for £35 with a £40 NHS donation and thought it was a nice thing of Hornby to do, I might run it or keep it for my son and daughter for when they are a bit older if they get the bug) I'd still get a Hattons one Edited May 1, 2020 by TomScrut 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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