Pete the Elaner Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, truffy said: I'm aware of that concept. Rarely seen it put into action though. I have occasionally seen 4 or 5 locos running together. 45637 Windward Islands was on the same train as 46202 Princess Anne when they were destroyed at Harrow in 1952. It was only there as a stock move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted July 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, adb968008 said: That’s quite a lot of traction to move a single 66 ? is the 66 unbraked or something ? Or one loco to move a 66 and two 73s? Edit: Also, if the 66 was unbraked it would not be permitted to be at the rear of the train. Roy Edited July 1, 2020 by Roy Langridge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted July 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) On 01/07/2020 at 10:01, Pete the Elaner said: It makes sense to move as much as possible with 1 path rather than send things individually. It would, Except the same 3 x 73’s went LE to Peterborough in order to bring it back. Outward... Tonbridge to Peterborough 73212+73136+73107+66740 https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/34450/2020-06-30/detailed Return.. Peterborough to Tonbridge 73107+73136+73212+66792 https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/34579/2020-06-30/detailed Only 73141 took 66792 to Eastleigh today... so my question still stands, braking was obviously eliminated as the reason. Edited May 16, 2021 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz9284 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 we are going off topic. but the 73's had not moved in ages and were sent with the 66 for a run out 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted July 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, daz9284 said: we are going off topic. but the 73's had not moved in ages and were sent with the 66 for a run out I think the driver was too. lots of horns, and for enthusiasts too, I think some,myself included, hadnt been out for a while. Edited July 2, 2020 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted July 4, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2020 £370 with time still to go. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hattons-Class-66-DCC-Fitted-Sound-66957-Freightliner-Immaculate/283929983917 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted July 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said: Nice to see they have a resale value,theres a sound Harry Patch 43 to by the same seller,perhaps hard times through the present situation. Yet a non-sound 66957 is still in stock at Hattons and can be fitted with Biffo sound for far less than £370 total. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 7 hours ago, newbryford said: Yet a non-sound 66957 is still in stock at Hattons and can be fitted with Biffo sound for far less than £370 total. Whilst I aren't exactly calling foul play here as sometimes things just get carried away on eBay, there does seem to be plenty of activity on eBay where things go for silly prices and then are relisted the next day as if there is some bidding up or something taking place. I did also have somebody tell me "I put a massive bid on to make sure I won them but I can't afford it" when selling some speakers once. Not sure how they thought auctions work and the obligations around the final value! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox321 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 On 01/07/2020 at 19:31, adb968008 said: It would, Except the same 3 x 73’s went LE to Peterborough in order to bring it back. Outward... Tonbridge to Peterborough 73212+73136+73107+66740 https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/34450/2020-06-30/detailed Return.. Peterborough to Tonbridge 73107+73136+73212+66792 https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/34579/2020-06-30/detailed Only 73141 took 66792 to Eastleigh today... so my question still stands, braking was obviously eliminated as the reason. My guess would be that the locomotive does not have UK signalling systems installed, or possibly working - AWS and/or TPWS as loco now used abroad. Likewise, it its had mods for use in Europe, would it technically be a unit that any UK drivers signed etc.. So possibly much more efficient to drag it for a one -off move. Regards, C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 That rush rail livery looks like it was designed....on a Friday.....by someone with a hangover ! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted July 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, rob D2 said: That rush rail livery looks like it was designed....on a Friday.....by someone with a hangover ! It’s faded to what it was in Sweden, it was a burning flame effect on the writing, the flames. Quite of lot of bits have been removed, from the roof, front, including snow ploughs, roof mounted horns and hand rails etc. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz9284 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, dogbox321 said: My guess would be that the locomotive does not have UK signalling systems installed, or possibly working - AWS and/or TPWS as loco now used abroad. Likewise, it its had mods for use in Europe, would it technically be a unit that any UK drivers signed etc.. So possibly much more efficient to drag it for a one -off move. Regards, C. I'm pretty sure it has had all works for UK use carried out at Longport over the past year. GBRf drivers will sign it because they use 66747-66751 which are ex euro spec. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir TophamHatt Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 13 hours ago, newbryford said: £370 with time still to go. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hattons-Class-66-DCC-Fitted-Sound-66957-Freightliner-Immaculate/283929983917 I should have kept mine and resold it instead of a straight refund from Hattons 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maico Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) ESU seems to have prolific on the livery front, I count 18 or so, 6 current Edited July 5, 2020 by AY Mod Images belonging to others removed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2020 7 hours ago, daz9284 said: I'm pretty sure it has had all works for UK use carried out at Longport over the past year. GBRf drivers will sign it because they use 66747-66751 which are ex euro spec. I think most of the essential the work has been done at longport, it’s probably something as simple as it doesn’t have yellow ends! when I dropped it off in longport I had to run round in Alsager loop and got in the cab to discover things I’d never seen before on a uk loco, the strangest thing being the loco brake (straight air) lever was the opposite way round to normal, normally pushing the lever away from you applies it, Whereas this one applies it when pulled towards you! that will have been turned round to match the others no doubt or it would be a recipe for disaster with the possibility of the brake being left on when being dragged 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz9284 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 13 hours ago, big jim said: I think most of the essential the work has been done at longport, it’s probably something as simple as it doesn’t have yellow ends! when I dropped it off in longport I had to run round in Alsager loop and got in the cab to discover things I’d never seen before on a uk loco, the strangest thing being the loco brake (straight air) lever was the opposite way round to normal, normally pushing the lever away from you applies it, Whereas this one applies it when pulled towards you! that will have been turned round to match the others no doubt or it would be a recipe for disaster with the possibility of the brake being left on when being dragged I did think of the yellow end, then thought it may have had the new light clusters fitted so it doesn't need a yellow end. that is strange regarding the straight air brake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 14 hours ago, big jim said: I think most of the essential the work has been done at longport, it’s probably something as simple as it doesn’t have yellow ends! when I dropped it off in longport I had to run round in Alsager loop and got in the cab to discover things I’d never seen before on a uk loco, the strangest thing being the loco brake (straight air) lever was the opposite way round to normal, normally pushing the lever away from you applies it, Whereas this one applies it when pulled towards you! that will have been turned round to match the others no doubt or it would be a recipe for disaster with the possibility of the brake being left on when being dragged Iike an aircraft , they should really have a “ differences “ course between marks of the same model . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted July 6, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2020 I don’t want to trawl through all the replies, so I’ll apologise in advance. If I buy a standard model, can I buy the sound chip that Hatton’s have installed in their models or use somebody else’s? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 24 minutes ago, jools1959 said: I don’t want to trawl through all the replies, so I’ll apologise in advance. If I buy a standard model, can I buy the sound chip that Hatton’s have installed in their models or use somebody else’s? DC Kits sell the chip with the sound file Hattons use IIRC. Or you can use somebody else's file but you'd need to program some CVs to make the most of the lighting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 38 minutes ago, jools1959 said: I don’t want to trawl through all the replies, so I’ll apologise in advance. If I buy a standard model, can I buy the sound chip that Hatton’s have installed in their models or use somebody else’s? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 43 minutes ago, jools1959 said: I don’t want to trawl through all the replies, so I’ll apologise in advance. If I buy a standard model, can I buy the sound chip that Hatton’s have installed in their models or use somebody else’s? I bought my chip and speaker off Roads and Rails. Worked out slightly cheaper than DC kits. Not yet had a chance to try it yet as the model it was intended for (Cemex) got delayed with the second set of liveries just after I bought it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dicky L Posted July 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2020 On 06/07/2020 at 19:42, ERIC ALLTORQUE said: https://www.dckits-devideos.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=253_68&product_id=1639 Heres the link to DCkits, Charlie will sort you with the genuine item and speaker,£122.50 i think. £140 if you want the EM2 that’s fitted in the Hattons Factory Sound fitted versions. Anything else would seem totally inept by comparison. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 29 minutes ago, Dicky L said: £140 if you want the EM2 that’s fitted in the Hattons Factory Sound fitted versions. Anything else would seem totally inept by comparison. What ERIC linked to is what Hattons fit in the factory because DC kits/Legomanbiffo supplied the sound/files and speaker to Hattons so you getting exactly the same thing you get from the factory. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz9284 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Pre Grouping fan said: What ERIC linked to is what Hattons fit in the factory because DC kits/Legomanbiffo supplied the sound/files and speaker to Hattons so you getting exactly the same thing you get from the factory. yes but it's £140 and not £122.50. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dicky L Posted July 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2020 39 minutes ago, daz9284 said: yes but it's £140 and not £122.50. that’s what i was pointing out. you have to upgrade to the EM2 speaker on the DC Kits site to get exactly the same sound setup as Hattons. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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