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At the end of the day, the model from what I’ve seen in the photos and at Warley looks fantastic and highly detailed. Hats off to the Hattons team for getting 2 of the 3 control option pre-orders flown in (at no additional cost to us) processed and at least shipped with a decent chance of getting them to the customers by Christmas! 

 

I suspect paint shades is probably one of the hardest things to get right and checked in the development stages over the actual engineering given monitors resolution, quality, lighting conditions etc etc that has been mentioned before. 
 

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Ali

 

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Looking forward to seeing people’s models here, as I cannot decide could I live with the tooling errors pointed out before.  
 

As for the Colas livery, looks OK to me...personally. Bit of fun below, spot the difference: 

 

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Damn it! I genuinely now feel the Bachmann 66 isn’t all that bad! Starting to regret selling them all off to fund Hattons take. I genuinely do not know what to do. Livery application, that last attention to detail is important and clearly the Bachmann team win in that department. 

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I think the issue is the font size..

 

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the top of the letter “c” is  3 ribs from the start of the black above it, and the bottoms of the letters 3 are from the bottom.

on the model It’s not clear how many ribs are above the “C” but it’s a lot more than 3 on both sides, but it’s correctly aligned on the 4th rib up.

 

 

 

 

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Personally I'm not in the market for these as i simply cannot afford to change again so sticking with my Bachmann models. I also have no interest in rubbishing the model either. Colours look good to me, its just the details wrong.

 

Cheers Trailrage 

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3 minutes ago, adb968008 said:

I think the issue is the font size..

 

rivet hat on..

the top of the letter “c” is  3 ribs from the start of the black above it, and the bottoms of the letters 3 are from the bottom.

on the model It’s not clear how many ribs are above the “C” but it’s a lot more than 3 on both sides, but it’s correctly aligned on the 4th rib up.

 

 

 

 

 

Having applied Colas decals (from two different suppliers)  to 37, 47, 56, 60, 66, 67 and 70 and a couple of Mk1 barrier vehicles, I agree that there seem to be variations within the font weight/sizing/spacing.

Although minimal,, the collective minor bits of milimetres add up over 16 letters and spacing

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I’m going to put my foot through the screen and send hattons the bill! 

 

Joking apart I wonder if the hattons 66 were looking in previous posts, including hattons Dave’s colour comparison at is a pre-production one and the font etc on the finished one is correct, all will become clear as people start to receive them and put pics up 

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I had a knock at the door at 8am and excitedly opened package to find Hattons box unfortunately when I removed from box I noticed something in clear insert so I carefully removed loco from plastic to find 2 rotating axel covers loose and fuel tank detached. the problem is that there are 3 rotating axle covers missing! while I have glued many fuel tanks back on (mainly Heljan) I am missing one cover and would not be putting any glue near an axle if they were all in box. So looks like mine going back to Hattons and I suggest opening box on flat surface to catch any parts if loose. the livery does look good and detail is impressive 

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20 minutes ago, shunny said:

 

 So looks like mine going back to Hattons and I suggest opening box on flat surface to catch any parts if loose. the livery does look good and detail is impressive 

Sorry to hear that. It is always a bit deflating to get something new & have to send it back for a replacement.

 

I have had to send something back to Hattons in the past & their service was excellent. I am sure you'll have a replacement in a few days.

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10 hours ago, 96701 said:

Well that's it then. As soon as my Colas liveried 66 arrives from Hattons, I'm not even going to open it, I'm going to send it back. Not!

 

I've got mine too, and definitely keeping it.

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Patriot arrived at 10:50 - is absolutely perfect.

 

It's not totally silent as Sam intimated but is VERY SMOOTH and quiet - slow is as good as ANYTHING I've seen on this forum - including that continental locomotive video.

 

Weight - electronic kitchen scales (within 2g accuracy I reckon) = 742g.

Dapol Class 68 = 698g.

 

It's on 'display' now, alongside the 68, Royal Scot and my TTS DoG.

 

Al.

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My Freightliner 66502 Basford Hall arrived this morning, beautifully packed and all in one piece. Not had a chance to run it, or check it carefully against photographs or the 'opposition' but it looks very very impressive. Many thanks Hattons!

 

all the best and Christmas Greetings to all!

 

Godfrey

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On ‎14‎/‎12‎/‎2019 at 08:36, adb968008 said:

Producing the video can take many more hours than filming it, which means “playing” with it is just a short part of the time.

 

You realise many of these people get paid by Google / YouTube to upload these videos right?
Okay, they get paid for X amount of subscribers and views.

But remember, filming and editing is a hobby to them.  Nobody is going to spend hours doing it for no personal gain.

 

I understand from Hattons, they've ploughed loads of money into this and want it to be as successful as possible, so in this day and age, sending them to reviewers for YouTube videos / free advertising, good on them.

 

But seriously, don't paint YouTube uploaders as people who do it out of the goodness of their hearts.

The majority do not.

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53 minutes ago, 96701 said:

Going to have to get the tweezers out to pop the handrail back where it belongs. It was me that knocked it out.

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Oh dear hattons will have to do body replacements now. At £150 that’s a shocking mistake. Glad I did not order that one with sound 

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GBRf 66731 arrived, there are no lose axle boxes or any other visible damage. Looks great, I love the details. At the moment it will go into my display cabinet, first trial on Tuesday on the club layout (DC). To all who are miserable, cancle their orders or not ordering because of all the "errors": You miss out. Its a great model.

 

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17 minutes ago, Walkes07 said:

Oh dear hattons will have to do body replacements now. At £150 that’s a shocking mistake

 

Oh get a grip on yourself, it may not be correct but it's not 'shocking', most people won't notice it and it's not for you to determine that they 'will have to' do anything.

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58 minutes ago, Sir TophamHatt said:

 

You realise many of these people get paid by Google / YouTube to upload these videos right?
Okay, they get paid for X amount of subscribers and views.

But remember, filming and editing is a hobby to them.  Nobody is going to spend hours doing it for no personal gain.

 

I understand from Hattons, they've ploughed loads of money into this and want it to be as successful as possible, so in this day and age, sending them to reviewers for YouTube videos / free advertising, good on them.

 

But seriously, don't paint YouTube uploaders as people who do it out of the goodness of their hearts.

The majority do not.


Sorry to weigh in with an OT post but a lot of this is simply unfair and some of it factually misleading.

 

Firstly YouTuber’s income from the host site & advertising is incredibly small for anything other than those of exceptionally large followers. Most ‘casual’ uploaders, and by that I mean those who don’t practically dedicate their life to it gain very little financially this way, this despite in many instances several thousand followers.

 

Secondly the majority of hobby genre uploaders DO do it from the ‘goodness of their own heart’ if this broadly covers wanting to put content out there to other viewers of a similar interest for the love of it, as their generally is very little financial gain relative to the effort and hours invested in producing quality material people want to engage with.

 

Sorry to drag this off topic!

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15 hours ago, AlexHolt said:

Having looked at more photos, the side with two grills, one at each end should have it going through the A. The side with the single grill on the end should have it going through the L. The hattons product page and also hattons posting here a few pages back have proven that its incorrect. Shouldn't this have been picked up on sooner?


Some photos of the model compared with the real life version. Difference is pretty obvious. Both sides of the model and real loco are pictured for comparison.

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Side 2: Correct

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The diagonal of the colour join appears to be correct. The issue is the Colas Rail Freight branding is both too narrow in width and too short in height on the model. If you look back at the post that Hattons posted comparing the Colas 66 colour with the Bachmann Colas 37 colour, the size difference in the branding between the two models is obvious. If the 66 had the same sized branding (spacing aside) as the 37 shown in the Hattons photo, I reckon it would have been spot on.

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5 minutes ago, AlexHolt said:

 

The diagonal angle is correct yes. But the orange is too far over, should end just after the first of the sandboxes but ends nearly halfway between the two. Theres definitely an error in the painting but only on one side, the other side is correct and matches the real loco. Looking closer at it something doesn't seem right with the branding either, the positioning is off and it does look a little narrow and short.

 

This picture shows it quite clearly in comparison with the production model that was posted earlier.

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Agree. From counting the side ribs on the prototype, the branding on the model should extend two ribs more in height to match the prototype. Can only assume the same difference in size exists in the width of the branding on the model. This is one of the reasons that it looks wrong. Also, the slight angle difference in the diagonal between the paint shades on model versus prototype, as you mentioned.

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4 hours ago, shunny said:

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I had a knock at the door at 8am and excitedly opened package to find Hattons box unfortunately when I removed from box I noticed something in clear insert so I carefully removed loco from plastic to find 2 rotating axel covers loose and fuel tank detached. the problem is that there are 3 rotating axle covers missing! while I have glued many fuel tanks back on (mainly Heljan) I am missing one cover and would not be putting any glue near an axle if they were all in box. So looks like mine going back to Hattons and I suggest opening box on flat surface to catch any parts if loose. the livery does look good and detail is impressive 

 

My '789' arrive too this morning. It just has one displaced axle cover that although is in the box is proofing very difficult to relocate as it doesn't simply push back in. Coincidentally I'm driving past Hattons later today so will pop in for a swap.

 

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6 minutes ago, AlexHolt said:

 For £150 you'd expect the model to be nothing short of perfect, its a lot of money for a single locomotive.

 

£150 is a par for the course price now.

 

If the only issue here is a small livery application issue that most of us wouldn't notice, I am looking at the two comparative pics and it doesn't shout out at me still then It's just one of those things I think.

 

Wouldn't stop me buying the model if 'modern' modern image is your thing, there are plenty of other pluses to the model to outweigh the livery error.

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