RMweb Premium iands Posted December 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, Keith J said: It will all be resolved with citrus oil apparently. https://www.eadt.co.uk/business/greater-anglia-new-trains-problems-citrus-oil-1-6417275 I wonder now if GA will retract their earlier statements, or at least clarify, that it wasn't (as implied) wholly a "signalling problem", but a wheel contamination problem with the new units? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdChap Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I have visions of drivers being given those small dropper bottles of citrus oil and being asked to put 3 drops on each wheel before they start their journey!! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (electrolube and Relcos?) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) only saw 2 trains today at Darsham rail treatment train with 2 class 66 and a 170 there was a bus at Saxmundham station Edited December 10, 2019 by ess1uk spellin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) I did discover this false idol (made of sand) upon an altar at Great Yarmouth station today......... Unfortunately the letters S and H appear to be missing from the start of the exhortation stated on the base......... I'm not going to be in a hurry to use GA again after the shambles of the last 7 days, and, given the seeming lack of passengers on the trains I've been travelling on, I wonder how many others GA have lost as a result of this fiasco? All 755s appeared to be having the "safety inspections" (which the other trains don't need...) conducted by someone with a bottle/spray set up before being allowed to operate, said services running late as a result. Edited December 10, 2019 by Johann Marsbar 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted December 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, Johann Marsbar said: I did discover this false idol (made of sand) upon an altar at Great Yarmouth station today......... Unfortunately the letters S and H appear to be missing from the start of the exhortation stated on the base......... I'm not going to be in a hurry to use GA again after the shambles of the last 7 days, and, given the seeming lack of passengers on the trains I've been travelling on, I wonder how many others GA have lost as a result of this fiasco? All 755s appeared to be having the "safety inspections" (which the other trains don't need...) conducted by someone with a bottle/spray set up before being allowed to operate, said services running late as a result. Did you not have a pen with you? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 10, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 10, 2019 Looks like the GA bunny has got mixi ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiles Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 On 10/12/2019 at 09:37, russ p said: I can't understand why they aren't trying to hire some stock, I know it wouldn't be too popular up north but hire 153s and 156s off northern and keep the 142s a bit longer. They couldn't be used on GA as no one signs them Then there is always the short set(s) but the modern railway is too obsessed with image to let BR stock replace their shiny new white elephants When BR had problems with 143s and 155s they used anything to keep the job running and 158s were kept out of it when it was realised they needed track circuit actuators until they were fitted Something I actually agree with you on! I suspect it falls into the "too difficult to make happen" file. I would have thought trying to recall the departed 153s/170s on a temporary basis might have been an idea. I suspect GA would have probably been told "no" anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Near Beccles today. so far I’ve seen 2 sprinters and 2 different RHTTs. in fact I’ve seen more people on track than trains. not seen a flirt for days now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, admiles said: Something I actually agree with you on! I suspect it falls into the "too difficult to make happen" file. I would have thought trying to recall the departed 153s/170s on a temporary basis might have been an idea. I suspect GA would have probably been told "no" anyway. This is the thing - no one here can say (publicly) what they might have tried to do behind the scenes. Perhaps they have been trying to get more stock in, and it's not been possible for whatever reason, I imagine some enquiries have been launched in the direction of various suppliers at least (but that's just me speculating). Nobody has a big batch of route cleared DMUs which the staff know just sitting there waiting for the call, so anything else would have several moving parts. And for all we know they might be expecting the new trains back in full service in a matter of days. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Zomboid said: This is the thing - no one here can say (publicly) what they might have tried to do behind the scenes. Perhaps they have been trying to get more stock in, and it's not been possible for whatever reason, I imagine some enquiries have been launched in the direction of various suppliers at least (but that's just me speculating). Nobody has a big batch of route cleared DMUs which the staff know just sitting there waiting for the call, so anything else would have several moving parts. And for all we know they might be expecting the new trains back in full service in a matter of days. From what GA management are saying on the local news sounds like a prolonged problem 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted December 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Zomboid said: This is the thing - no one here can say (publicly) what they might have tried to do behind the scenes. Perhaps they have been trying to get more stock in, and it's not been possible for whatever reason, I imagine some enquiries have been launched in the direction of various suppliers at least (but that's just me speculating). Nobody has a big batch of route cleared DMUs which the staff know just sitting there waiting for the call, so anything else would have several moving parts. And for all we know they might be expecting the new trains back in full service in a matter of days. Surely DRS have a load of route cleared 37's, 68's and mk2 coaches? They did earlier in the year! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted December 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, ruggedpeak said: Surely DRS have a load of route cleared 37's, 68's and mk2 coaches? They did earlier in the year! Mk2s non compliant after Xmas and additionally they are not authorised for passenger use on all routes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2019 They could get derigation for them , but they cant do SP speeds so long speed restrictions on Sheringham and Cambridge lines . Never say never though 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 B12 and some quad-arts on the NNR...... Stewart 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted December 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2019 I observed a 4 car set crossing the A1075 near Thetford this morning. The crossing operated correctly but the unit was vislibly travelling very slowly, unusually so from my limited experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted December 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2019 25 minutes ago, colin penfold said: I observed a 4 car set crossing the A1075 near Thetford this morning. The crossing operated correctly but the unit was vislibly travelling very slowly, unusually so from my limited experience. I think Croxton has had a TSR for a while now.but @russ p will be better able to comment 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2019 Croxton has had a 40mph on for years because someone thought that the road was too fast upto the crossing why they didn't put a speed limit on that....... don't ask! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, ruggedpeak said: Surely DRS have a load of route cleared 37's, 68's and mk2 coaches? They did earlier in the year! Probably absolutely nothing to do with this debacle but I saw 37425 idling at the RTC in Derby this morning, apparently it was thrashing away on the load bank later. Completely debranded it's been there untouched for quite a while. Also 37419 was seen running a few days ago. We can but dream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, great central said: Probably absolutely nothing to do with this debacle but I saw 37425 idling at the RTC in Derby this morning, apparently it was thrashing away on the load bank later. Completely debranded it's been there untouched for quite a while. Also 37419 was seen running a few days ago. We can but dream Its supposed to be getting an overhaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted December 11, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, russ p said: Croxton has had a 40mph on for years because someone thought that the road was too fast upto the crossing why they didn't put a speed limit on that....... don't ask! Its down to 40mph for sighting reasons.... I thought that the fact that it has barriers was so that you don't need to look to cross the thing..... Andy G Edit: Its easier to put a speed on the railway than a road, as unless someone has died its difficult to get that limit down, whereas a phone call can get an ESR on (I know I've done it!) Edited December 11, 2019 by uax6 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, russ p said: Croxton has had a 40mph on for years because someone thought that the road was too fast upto the crossing why they didn't put a speed limit on that....... don't ask! Always wondered why they were slow at Croxton. It's far enough away from Thetford for them not to be going that slow. But then one of my first experiences when it became a regular drive for me was the lorry coming the other way not quite stopping behind the line and the barrier coming down on his cab roof. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted December 11, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, uax6 said: Andy G Edit: Its easier to put a speed on the railway than a road...... And no doubt that "Highways" would argue (possibly correctly) that the road was there before the railway came along, so the railway should adapt to the road "conditions" rather than the other way round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 8 hours ago, admiles said: Something I actually agree with you on! I suspect it falls into the "too difficult to make happen" file. I would have thought trying to recall the departed 153s/170s on a temporary basis might have been an idea. I suspect GA would have probably been told "no" anyway. Written elsewhere by respected journalist that Abellio have instructed GA to release the 153&156 fleets on the planned dates. They move to EMR, another Abellio franchise. Also suggestion that the GA class 90s, which were off lease at end of this month have been subleased from FL until March but further extension unlikely as the FL 86/6s start becoming due major overhauls at that point which won’t be funded. an interesting few months awaits in Anglia region. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 hours ago, iands said: And no doubt that "Highways" would argue (possibly correctly) that the road was there before the railway came along, so the railway should adapt to the road "conditions" rather than the other way round. Using that logic trains should give way to road users! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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