hexagon789 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, iands said: Or, as with the Azuma's, mods to the rolling stock as well? That's kind of what I wondered, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, hexagon789 said: So does that mean the signalling needs modifications to prevent interference from the new trains? (Rather as with the northern ECML.) I hope not. What it should mean is that the train is currently being tested in respect of the various emissions it generates to ensure that it is compatible with the signalling system - that inevitably has to be done under special arrangements because it might cause a signalling problem; That procedure is nothing new and we were running train/traction unit test programmes under those sort of conditions a quarter of a century ago and since privatisation they will also have been subject to additional assessments. If the train is found not to be compliant then it should be made compliant by whatever means and extra equipment or modifications are necessary to achieve compliance. But one would have hoped that the train's designers would have read the relevant Group Standards before the thing was shipped to the customer and it would therefore be found to be compliant. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexagon789 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: I hope not. What it should mean is that the train is currently being tested in respect of the various emissions it generates to ensure that it is compatible with the signalling system - that inevitably has to be done under special arrangements because it might cause a signalling problem; That procedure is nothing new and we were running train/traction unit test programmes under those sort of conditions a quarter of a century ago and since privatisation they will also have been subject to additional assessments. If the train is found not to be compliant then it should be made compliant by whatever means and extra equipment or modifications are necessary to achieve compliance. But one would have hoped that the train's designers would have read the relevant Group Standards before the thing was shipped to the customer and it would therefore be found to be compliant. Thank you for explaining it. So it's the trains that need to be made compliant with the signalling in the sense of emissions and not the other way around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 7 hours ago, hexagon789 said: Thank you for explaining it. So it's the trains that need to be made compliant with the signalling in the sense of emissions and not the other way around. Yes and no: both the infrastructure and the rolling stock have to be compliant with the relevant standards. In the case of the ECML it seems that the necessary protections to the interlockings had not been put in place and these are now being modified. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggie in the east Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) Thats pretty much summed it up. The class 360s, when they were tested, put signals back on the adjacent line between diss and Norwich, so now we have SPZs for anything thats new or modified. The refurb'd 321s also had SPZ protection on the clacton branch when they were tested on their return. Edited March 17, 2019 by Siggie in the east 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggie in the east Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 There are test moves planned all week this week starting tonight with a commissioning run for 755408, Norwich-diss-Norwich. Monday night is especially busy with 755407 on a Norwich-Stratford-Norwich trip and at the same time 755405+755408 on a double pantograph test between Norwich and diss. Monday during the day, 405+408 are on a double pantograph test, same route. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted March 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2019 Today saw - I think - the first daylight running of a pair of 755s Tivetshall 21 March 2019 755408 and 755405 on 5Q61, 09:03, Norwich C.PT. T.&R.S.M.D - Diss(09:33) - under test, pantographs up and back as 755408 and 755405 on 5Q61, 09:03, Norwich C.PT. T.&R.S.M.D - Diss (09:33) - under test, pantographs up I believe these were under diesel power with the pantographs up for testing. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Roughly when are the first 3 car units due to arrive? What's the count so far on deliveries? I've lost count but guessing it's at least 3x 4 car units and 1x 12. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted March 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Satan's Goldfish said: Roughly when are the first 3 car units due to arrive? What's the count so far on deliveries? I've lost count but guessing it's at least 3x 4 car units and 1x 12. 1 x 12 and 4 x 4 I think we're up to. Asking when the 3 cars will arrive is a bit like asking when the resignalling will reach from Brundall to Yarmouth and Lowestoft - one day. (May 2020 is the latest rumour for the resignalling) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpb56125 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Unnumbered one seen last week in Poland. Mark 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Posters up (at Stow' at least) informing Joe & Judy Public new trains are on test, "please do not board"! If the train is filthy, late and wedged, that's yer one sunshine! C6T. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, mpb56125 said: Unnumbered one seen last week in Poland. Mark Are you sure that isn't Crewe North box with a class 83 dragging that 755 !!!!! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Covkid said: Are you sure that isn't Crewe North box with a class 83 dragging that 755 !!!!! I had to look twice at the traction myself. Not exactly "filling the envelope" wrt the Berne Gauge is she?! However, noting the layout, it became apparent it wasn't the UK. They like the double-slip on the continent don't they?! Six in a row at Lille... C6T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggie in the east Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 12 hours ago, beast66606 said: Today saw - I think - the first daylight running of a pair of 755s Tivetshall 21 March 2019 755408 and 755405 on 5Q61, 09:03, Norwich C.PT. T.&R.S.M.D - Diss(09:33) - under test, pantographs up and back as 755408 and 755405 on 5Q61, 09:03, Norwich C.PT. T.&R.S.M.D - Diss (09:33) - under test, pantographs up I believe these were under diesel power with the pantographs up for testing. Yep, it's both the first running of a pair of 755s and the first double pantograph test. It was running on diesel as they aren't authorised to draw power yet unless they are in a SPZ. Great photos! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggie in the east Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) This morning we have had our first 12car bi-mode tests, with all pantographs raised, on 5Q01 Norwich-diss and 5Q02 diss-Norwich with 755408 on the London end, the other 2 units are unknown. 5Q03 and 5Q04 same as above. Thanks Edited March 27, 2019 by Siggie in the east 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir TophamHatt Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I'm sort of surprised they didn't go with a special livery for the Stansted Express units. I know it means greater flexability but from an outsider, if I was on the Stansted Express train, I'd be looking for something that's a little more obvious than some simple wording. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted March 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2019 Tivetshall 28 March 2019 755408, 755407 and 755405 on 5Q61, 09:03, Norwich C.PT. T.&R.S.M.D - Diss (09:33) - under test, first day time running of 3 x 4 cars 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Very nice pics Beast. I hope we get to see 3 x 4 along the Breckland line at some point... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggie in the east Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 There were meant to be 3new units being delivered today on 5Q01 from ripple lane through colchester at 06:40? I'm assuming they didnt run then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted March 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Siggie in the east said: There were meant to be 3new units being delivered today on 5Q01 from ripple lane through colchester at 06:40? I'm assuming they didnt run then. Caped due to HS1 possession - and I don't mean poltergeists ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted March 29, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 29, 2019 One more from yesterdays testing - the crossing is skewed in case anyone thinks I'm inside any fences. Tivetshall 28 March 2019 755405, 755407 and 755408 on 5Q72, 14:39, Diss - Norwich C.PT. T.&R.S.M.D (15:00) 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted April 4, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 4, 2019 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 You can 'hide' posts. Don't ask me how to 'unhide' them though! C6T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiles Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Mersey507003 said: Are the units being towed for delivery or as a result of a failure during a test run. Delivery run... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted April 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 30, 2019 About time I posted an update with some more workings Tivetshall 15 April 2019 755410 and 755409 on 5Q53, 11:33, Norwich T.C. - Ipswich (12:21) - units under test 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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