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Another photo of a teak coach. This weekend I’ve managed to get most of the lining done on all 4 coaches. Funnily enough the lining got better as I went on....so practice does really help! I have also learned that a small brush and white spirit help to tidy up wobbly lines and blots.

 

Anyway I’m pleased with the end result:

 

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The ends still need to be lined along with some touching in. On this coach there is a patch on the teak that needs a repair ( or weathering) and the roof is blotchy as a result of a failed experiment with a spray can. Again weathering should sort that out.

 

Apologies for the poor quality photo. Will take some better ones once the painting is completed.

 

Jon

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Looking great, i do like a good teak effect, one day ill delve back in time to the lner days im sure, lovely teak & green engines.

 

Edit, just seen you have also seen the RT models thread, be great to get Barber on the go

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Edit, just seen you have also seen the RT models thread, be great to get Barber on the go

Totally agree - it’s good to see that Barber is a possibility- or even a plan. I think it is the must have loco for the Gas works railway.

 

Anyway once I finish the teak coaches i’m Going to finally finish off the hopper wagon and see if I can build a tank wagon.

 

Jon

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During the week I have been steadily applying transfers to the coaches.

 

When I looked in the “transfer box” I realised that I didn’t have any “Restaurant Car” transfers....oh bother said I (well something along those lines). I ordered some of the required transfers and carried on with the other transfers. In my head the plan was to finish all that I could and then wait for the delivery.. Well today’s post contained a pleasant surprise......a delivery of transfers! That has enabled me to complete the transfers on all four coaches. One has also had a couple of coats of varnish....next stage is weathering and the varnish will protect everything that I’ve done so far. Well that’s the theory anyway!

 

Hopefully tomorrow I’ll be able to post a photo of a weathered coach.

 

Jon

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Started the weathering this morning. I used Model Mates dyes - track dirt all over and soot for highlighting details. The photos show the un weathered side and the weathered one as a comparison.

 

Un- weathered

 

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Weathered

 

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I think the weathering looks blotchy and so I’m planning to thin it down some more with water - the dyes stay water soluble.

 

I think the next coach will be weathered with a thin paint and white spirit mix - that is probably more controllable than the dyes. The dyes seem to produce a think coat which is not really what I’m aiming for. This coach is meant to be an “ in work “ coach.....not filthy though.

 

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Weathering now watered down a bit. Thought it looked ok so I started on the other side. Judging by the photo I need to water this down as well! (In the flesh these sides look better.......or is it my rose tinted spectacles?)

 

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I think the areas around the door frames are probably the places where I need to concentrate.

 

Onwards and upwards as they say!

 

Jon

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Over the last couple of weeks since my last post I have continued to finish the coaches- mainly glazing- .....sometimes it feels like a never ending process! Anyway I think that I really am near the end now....I need to add the corridor connections still....oh and continue to work on my weathering.....

 

I will not be doing the interiors yet - that is planned for another day.

 

this is the 1914 Kitchen car

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Then there is the Open First

 

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The third corridor 

 

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and finally the brake third

 

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Time to move back onto the narrow gauge wagons. I went to the Doncaster show yesterday and purchased some bogies that I think might be suitable. So my idea is to try these on the hopper wagon and see if they look ok.

 

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Now those coaches are looking the business.

Top marks there Jon.

Looking forward to the narrow gauge wagon being fettled further.

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I had a quick look at the hopper wagon to see what jobs are left to do.

 

Four main things to do (I think!)

1. Add the extension boards to the top of the wagon. These were made of wood on the real wagon. They will be plastic on the model and I will try to paint these so that “wood” is showing through the grey paint on the top edges when they would have been knocked about.

2. Couplings to add. Probably need some working ones for this wagon.

3. Rivets - lots to add on the sides and ends that I haven’t finished yet.

4. Bogies. I want to add the distinctive springs - as in the diagram below- but not quite sure of the best way to do this yet. My first efforts were way over scale.

 

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How about the tiny springs in n gauge couplings? Might be about the right size. Next time im at my bench ill size up.

 

Note to self, need more modelling time...

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If the wheels are 12mm diameter in 4mm scale, then the springs look like they would be about 1mm to 1.5mm diameter. In that case, the springs from 4mm buffers would be about right.

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James, Guy

 

Thanks for the ideas. I’m going to have a rummage in the spares bin and see if I’ve got any small springs from buffers, couplings etc.

 

I’ve just had a small effort at filing some grooves into brass wire...not very successful! (Although I think it would work in principle)

 

By the way the wheels are approx 6 or 7 mm in diameter so I think 1 mm outside diameter for the springs is about correct.

 

Jon

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Rummaged around and couldn’t find a spring - but did find this

 

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(This pack probably has antique value now)

 

The bogie that I’m trying is from Dundas and is the WW1 War department bogie like this

 

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Wheelbase is about correct and overall looks similar. The wheels look too small and the overall length of the bogie frame is too long - so a bit of fettling required.

Anyway, I used the 5 amp wire and wrapped it around 0.6 diameter brass wire to get a “spring” like this

 

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I think that this might be close the correct size and if I can get it to sit under the frame by filing down the existing leaf springs it might look OK. Thoughts?

 

Sorry the spring is a bit out of focus ...still need to get better at photos.

 

Jon

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Like it Jon  very ingenious, just remember though once its painted black and trundling about you wont notice it as much, plus its a good cheap repeatable way to represent it

Great work though, looking forward to progress on the hoppers, any thoughts on couplings yet? Im looking at doing the later knuckle ones once i get going on the 009 again

All the best

James

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James

 

From what I’ve seen at a few exhibitions and some topics on here, I think I’m likely to go with Greenwich couplings. The other possibility is Bemo ( these are the recommended ones for the bogies). From a fairly cursory look at photos both couplings look very similar. OO9 is not my area of expertise so I’m willing to listen to any advice from others.     

 

Jon

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Springs fitted to one axle box

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I think the idea idea is OK- execution (by me) a bit variable. That will improve with practice........another 7 axles boxes for this wagon, total of 4 wagons to construct.....by the end of that I should have it mastered:D

 

If not, as James said, they are small, will be painted black and probably no one will notice them......except me of course. The thing is that once I know something is there I really do want to get it right and it’s really frustrating when I can’t!

 

Jon

 

 

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Like it Jon! Think ill borrow this idea whenever i re work my hoppers

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Progress today - have now completed one bogie and attached to the wagon.

 

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I’m happy with the look of the springs but still need to get the lengths more equal. In a ( very cruel) close up you can see what I mean.

 

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I think I will persevere with the other bogie and then paint them to see what they look like.

 

This week I couldn’t resist buying a loco - I’m a sucker for Raven A2’s!

 

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I put it on the track, turned on the controller and......nothing! I then started to investigate. Both sets of wheels were insulated but pickups only on one side. Puzzled- I looked more closely and one set had been shorted out. OK then - except the wheels were on the wrong sides. This was confirmed when I looked at the valve gear and the “oil pots” on the connecting rod were upside down. So, pleased with myself, I swapped the wheels over and......it stuttered! Another 30 mins of cleaning, tweaking and oiling then ensued. After which ...success it runs!

 

I plan to add a few details to this model - but try to keep the spirit of what it is. In the main it seems well built...which is why I was surprised by the wheel mix up. 

 

Jon

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Nice work on the hopper wagon Jon,

 

and I defo like the look of the Ravens A2 all interesting stuff.

 

 Cheers 

 

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Love the A2, looks to be a fine model, as does the hopper im sure itl look fine with black bogies

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Second bogie now has revised springs fitted. Not perfect but better.349736F7-44B1-4A0B-89AD-22C17B5D6601.jpeg.af552acdb34a680ea5ca048e6e402902.jpeg

 

Then painted black

 

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Difficult to get the lighting correct for that.....sorry!

 

Now to add brakes and wheels and then fit to wagon. 

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Last night I added the bogie to the wagon.......unfortunately the hopper operating gubbins fouled the bogie....bother!

Removed the operating mechanism and the result is

 

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I’ll shorten the mechanism and re- fit in due course.

 

Next step will be the extension boards that went around the top of the hopper.

 

Jon

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Top job, really looks the part, very big and bulky just like the real ones.

 

Think ill re visit mine if/when Barber comes out, get the narrow guage stuff properly finished.

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It feels like I’ve spent the whole weekend adding rivets to the hopper wagon! (Actually I’ve spent a few hours on this over the weekend...the remainder of the weekend was spent in the garden ( productive), walking in the N Yorks countryside (glorious) and watching the rugby ( not so good)).

 

I’ve added to extension boards all round and also the strengthening rib on one side. Rivets added to one side and one end. Nearly finished with rivets - one end to complete.

 

Strentgening rib and extensions:

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The strentgening strip looks a bit too heavy. I think I’ll see what it looks like after being painted.

 

Rivets.......

 

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These will have some setting solution applied and then painted ( once the strengthening rib is added to this side.

 

Jon

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