br2975 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 On 10/04/2019 at 22:47, 96701 said: It is looking like Class 37 + 4 are doing Cardiff to Rhymney from May for quite some time, so no rush to see them............. Pencilled in to start Monday 20th May. . 3x Cl.37s and 2x 4coach rakes. . 0724 & 0745 ex Rhymney MFO 1701 & 1731 ex Cardiff Central MFO . spare 37 to stable at Rhymney, and will drop onto one the stable d stock of one of the arrivals ex-Cardiff each evening to work to Cardiff the following morning. . THerefore, each loco is used every two days. . no plans at present for Saturday workings........but never say never ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) As for the Cl.769 it remains at Canton. . There are concerns that the drivers seat is not one minute fire retardent, required on routes with tunnels exceeding 1,000yds or is it 1,000m in length. . Additional concerns surround it being out of gauge at certain points on the Rhymney line should the suspension fails on one side. I'm told one pinch point is in the Cardiff Queen St. area. . Another concern is over the rescue of a unit, should one fail......current local thinking is that four (4) Cl.150/2 units will be required to rescue a failed Cl.769.Abstracting 4x 150/2 units would cause "problems" elsewhere on the TfW network. . There is a feeling amongst operations staff that the 769s would be better deployed on the Ebbw Vale services . 153 units cascaded from GWR are being deployed to West Wales services, allowing 14x units to move to the Cardiff area as further cover for the 4 Cl.150/2 units moving to the Wrexham-Bidston-Liverpool service, a contractual or franchise requirement. . However, the whole TfW 14x fleet is non-PRM compliant, and a big hole would appear in the TfW roster come December as their is little or no chance of derogation. Edited April 12, 2019 by br2975 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted April 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 12, 2019 According to the latest newsletter of the Shewsbury and Aberystwyth line users group, only 11 of the new 2-car units are to be fitted with ERTMS, which is contrary to the announcements of enhanced capacity as it will mean fewer seats, but a slightly higher total capacity because of more standing space. This is stated to go against the franchise requirement of no standing on journeys of over 20 miles as that covers the journey between Welshpool and Shrewsbury which in the last three years has gained considerable commuter traffic. The newsletter says that originally all the new units, both 2 and 3 car were to have been fitted with ERTMS. So on your journey to the Cambrian coast in the next decade expect to stand. Some of those Saturday services are among the heaviest loaded trains on the whole Welsh network, I understand. Until the more-or-less hourly service was introduced the train at about nine-thirty east from Aberystwyth in the summer was six coaches to cope with the traffic. Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 4 hours ago, br2975 said: Pencilled in to start Monday 20th May. . 3x Cl.37s and 2x 4coach rakes. . 0724 & 0745 ex Rhymney MFO 1701 & 1731 ex Cardiff Central MFO . spare 37 to stable at Rhymney, and will drop onto one the stable d stock of one of the arrivals ex-Cardiff each evening to work to Cardiff the following morning. . THerefore, each loco is used every two days. . no plans at present for Saturday workings........but never say never ! MFO means the loco-hauled trains only run on Monday and Friday (which contradicts the next sentence !) - Is that right ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-Miles Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I heard a rumour that the 37s plus carriages will work a Fishguard and return service between rush hours. If true, it's a good day out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 hours ago, caradoc said: MFO means the loco-hauled trains only run on Monday and Friday (which contradicts the next sentence !) - Is that right ? Weekdays only, i.e. Monday to Friday Only. Not Saturdays. . Next week's "ghost services" are already in the system, as shown in a previous post above. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 On 31/03/2019 at 07:55, matt-b said: Wrexham station isn't very long. Will a 3 coach train just about squeeze in? Istr the Ex Underground stock being a bit shorter than the class 150 vehicles, although the overall length of a 3 car unit will probably be a bit longer than a 2 car 150. Wrexham Central Station platform is officially 4 Chains long (so 88 Yards, or 80.5 Metres) so they should fit ok. Always thought Wrexham Central would make an ideal micro-layout, with a perfect scenic break, but a bit limited operationally though! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted April 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 12, 2019 That bufferstop is a bit OTT! If they replaced it with something normal they would have a couple of metres of extra platform. Jonathan 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 hours ago, br2975 said: Weekdays only, i.e. Monday to Friday Only. Not Saturdays. . Next week's "ghost services" are already in the system, as shown in a previous post above. Thanks for the clarification br2975. (It might be worth editing the original post to show SX rather than MFO). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tim Hall Posted April 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2019 18 hours ago, John-Miles said: I heard a rumour that the 37s plus carriages will work a Fishguard and return service between rush hours. If true, it's a good day out. Well, 37418 has been to Carmarthen on crew training within the last couple of weeks, Rob Masterman videoed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2019 On 31/03/2019 at 07:55, matt-b said: Wrexham station isn't very long. Will a 3 coach train just about squeeze in? Close, but no cigar! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 On 12/04/2019 at 17:27, Signaller69 said: Always thought Wrexham Central would make an ideal micro-layout, with a perfect scenic break, but a bit limited operationally though! You could always use it as an inspiration for a fictional heavy rail-narrow gauge interchange by putting in a narrow gauge line on the right, with run round and a (narrow) platform. With all the RTR 009 stuff available now, and a fair bit of Arriva Wales units out there it would make for an unusual but plausible layout. It was something I was considering to replace "Kings Oak", a local pottery made some lovely collectable "Under Milkwood" buildings that were approximately OO scale and I envisaged using them to create a low relief backscene with the old station yard turned over to the narrow gauge, the old station building housing the booking office and tourist information centre, and the Arriva bus shelter halt in an adjacent platform, and calling it "Llaregub", an ideal name for a small, operationally simple layout! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2019 22 hours ago, big jim said: Close, but no cigar! Bit of a s*d changing ends by the look of things Jim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 37418 together with a scratch take of Mk.Iis (including FOs and a buffet) was due to make a Cardiff Canton - Rhymney and return "ghost run" last evening.I . Unfortunately, a lineside sink hole has closed the line North of Bargoed, trapping at least one unit at Rhymney, and as a result 37418s run was caped. . Brian R 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted April 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 24, 2019 Seems to be back to normal now according to National Rail Enquiries. Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shed Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 On 12/04/2019 at 09:07, corneliuslundie said: According to the latest newsletter of the Shewsbury and Aberystwyth line users group, only 11 of the new 2-car units are to be fitted with ERTMS, which is contrary to the announcements of enhanced capacity as it will mean fewer seats, but a slightly higher total capacity because of more standing space. This is stated to go against the franchise requirement of no standing on journeys of over 20 miles as that covers the journey between Welshpool and Shrewsbury which in the last three years has gained considerable commuter traffic. The newsletter says that originally all the new units, both 2 and 3 car were to have been fitted with ERTMS. So on your journey to the Cambrian coast in the next decade expect to stand. Some of those Saturday services are among the heaviest loaded trains on the whole Welsh network, I understand. Until the more-or-less hourly service was introduced the train at about nine-thirty east from Aberystwyth in the summer was six coaches to cope with the traffic. Jonathan which new units are they please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 CAF class 196. Welsh trains for Wales. due to enter service in 2022, there are 51 two-car and 26 three-car units. think Northern class 195 but with corridor connectors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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