jonny777 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 HSTs arrive and depart Cardiff in 1983. Â Â 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Crossing Selby swing bridge in 1982:  Approaching Stockport in 1984:  Speeding through Little Bedwyn in 1985: One of those shots where the low light prompted me to try a wide angle lens and slow shutter.  Between Bedford and Wellingborough in 1985: 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 HSTs in the (urban) landscape this time, although too far away to identify... (I think one of these may have appeared already somewhere on this site a while ago)  Southbound through Gateshead on 30th March 1991. The street on the left is Brunel Street, on the right is Trevethick Street. The streets in this part of town were named after famous engineers etc. and the incorrect spelling (should be Trevithick of course) was never corrected(!)  At the same spot on 24th January 2017 with the new Trevethick Street (same spelling) on the right. No sign of Brunel Street now.  Near King Edward Bridge Junction, Gateshead, in 1987. The HST has just come over the King Edward Bridge from Newcastle. In the background is the (in)famous St. Cuthbert's Village, built in the 1960s and mostly demolished 30 years later. It is impossible to replicate this shot today as trees and bushes block the view.  Cheers Trevor   16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) Two more of HSTs near St. Cuthbert's Village, Gateshead... Â Showing the proximity of Gateshead Depot, 28th March 1986 Â A southbound HST on the bridge, on washing day by the look of it, 14th June 1986 Â Trevor Edited July 3, 2018 by Trev52A 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairburn Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 HSTs in the (urban) landscape this time, although too far away to identify... (I think one of these may have appeared already somewhere on this site a while ago)  017a (1640gS) between Brunel St.(left) +Trevethick St. Gateshead 1991 (T Ermel).jpg Southbound through Gateshead on 30th March 1991. The street on the left is Brunel Street, on the right is Trevethick Street. The streets in this part of town were named after famous engineers etc. and the incorrect spelling (should be Trevithick of course) was never corrected(!)  017B (DSC_0949a) HST rear Trevethick St 24-1-17 (T.Ermel).jpg At the same spot on 24th January 2017 with the new Trevethick Street (same spelling) on the right. No sign of Brunel Street now.  (1630xS) HST Gateshead 1987 (T Ermel) .jpg Near King Edward Bridge Junction, Gateshead, in 1987. The HST has just come over the King Edward Bridge from Newcastle. In the background is the (in)famous St. Cuthbert's Village, built in the 1960s and mostly demolished 30 years later. It is impossible to replicate this shot today as trees and bushes block the view.  Cheers Trevor   That first pic is just screaming out for Jack Carter speeding away in his silver Cortina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Near Respryn Bridge, Cornwall, 11/5/2015  cheers 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Two more of HSTs near St. Cuthbert's Village, Gateshead...  (1653a) HST St Cuthberts Village 28-03-86Gateshead (T Ermel) .jpg Showing the proximity of Gateshead Depot, 28th March 1986  (1764a) HST St Cuthberts Village KEB Jct 14-06-86 (T Ermel) .jpg A southbound HST on the bridge, on washing day by the look of it, 14th June 1986  Trevor  The black and white photographs are wonderful, very much in the same vein as the work of Colin Gifford, albeit in a more modern era.  Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted July 4, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2018 Some top-notch atmospheric shots there, Trevor, and impeccable timing with the side-on views. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Two more of HSTs near St. Cuthbert's Village, Gateshead...  (1653a) HST St Cuthberts Village 28-03-86Gateshead (T Ermel) .jpg Showing the proximity of Gateshead Depot, 28th March 1986  (1764a) HST St Cuthberts Village KEB Jct 14-06-86 (T Ermel) .jpg A southbound HST on the bridge, on washing day by the look of it, 14th June 1986  Trevor    I remember trying to get photos of Gateshead depot from the stairs of those flats many decades ago, but I didn't feel particularly safe in there and abandoned the idea rather quickly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Two more of HSTs near St. Cuthbert's Village, Gateshead...  (1653a) HST St Cuthberts Village 28-03-86Gateshead (T Ermel) .jpg Showing the proximity of Gateshead Depot, 28th March 1986  (1764a) HST St Cuthberts Village KEB Jct 14-06-86 (T Ermel) .jpg A southbound HST on the bridge, on washing day by the look of it, 14th June 1986  Trevor  On closer inspection that looks like the roof of a peak in the second photo, just behind the removal van! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I see to remember an impressive video of a 59 also hauling a failed HST... Whilst moving its own loaded stone train. Â Â Not as impressive as I was hoping! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 On closer inspection that looks like the roof of a peak in the second photo, just behind the removal van! Â Well spotted - quite correct! I took a shot of it pulling away from signals (it was standing in the HST view) and if I can find it I'll post it! Â Cheers Trevor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) I remember trying to get photos of Gateshead depot from the stairs of those flats many decades ago, but I didn't feel particularly safe in there and abandoned the idea rather quickly.  Like this?  HST heading west past Gateshead depot on 8th February 1987. I didn't get the power car number, but the set appears to be 253 040  UPDATE - it looks like the power car is 43150 (see the next post from Peter, and my reply of 5th July)  Cheers Trevor  Edited to add the Update Edited July 5, 2018 by Trev52A 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Trevor, Looking through my records I found the following formation for a NE/SW set on 3.5.87: Â 43150 (Executive livery, with 253040 on front), W41161, W40421*, W42084, W42085, W42086, W42087, W44069 (all the trailers in blue/grey livery), 43178 (Executive livery; no unit number) Â The * indicates the buffet end of the vehicle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted July 4, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) Network Rail's 'New Measurement Train' usually visits the line from Leeds to Manchester Piccadilly late on a Monday evening. Â So photographs of the working in the light through Huddersfield are only usually practical in the late spring and summer months. Â In evening sunshine, 43062 'John Armitt'Â approaches Colne Bridge, just after Heaton Lodge Junction, and heads along the Standedge route towards Huddersfield on 2nd July 2018... Â ...with 43014 'The Railway Observer' on the other end. Â The schedule in the current Working Timetable sees the NMT booked to take a 40 minute break at Huddersfield station... Â 43062 Â 43014Â Edited July 4, 2018 by 4630 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Like this?  (1663a) HST set 253040 passing Gateshead TMD 08-02-87 (T Ermel).jpg HST heading west past Gateshead depot on 8th February 1987. I didn't get the power car number, but the set appears to be 253 040  Cheers Trevor    Yes, very much like that (but no HST - sorry).      SaveSave 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Trevor, Looking through my records I found the following formation for a NE/SW set on 3.5.87:  43150 (Executive livery, with 253040 on front), W41161, W40421*, W42084, W42085, W42086, W42087, W44069 (all the trailers in blue/grey livery), 43178 (Executive livery; no unit number)  The * indicates the buffet end of the vehicle.  Thank you, Peter. It's a good job somebody went to the trouble of making such meticulous notes at the time! It looks like my shot is of 43150, then.  Which begs the question: when power cars got switched between sets (as was bound to happen), did they change the set number on the front to match the new set, or is that the reason the set number system was abandoned?  According to Colin Marsden's book 'HST Silver Jubilee' the other power car originally allocated to set 253040 was 43149. It would be conclusive to see a picture of this one at about the same time to see if it still had the set number on the front.  I'm sure you can help with other pictures I have of unidentified HST power cars!  Kind regards Trevorr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Yes, very much like that (but no HST - sorry).   100896.jpg    SaveSave  Ha ha - very good! Did you note the date of this one, Jonny? I can check to see if I was in the area too.  Cheers Trevor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 More at Newcastle from 1989 Â 43093 pulls forward the last few feet before coming to a halt heading north on 19th August 1989 Â 43092 arrives from the north on 19th August 1989 Â 43173 waits to head north on 18th May 1989, as crews change aboard 47627 Â Trevor 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Commoner Posted July 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2018 Thank you, Peter. It's a good job somebody went to the trouble of making such meticulous notes at the time! It looks like my shot is of 43150, then.  Which begs the question: when power cars got switched between sets (as was bound to happen), did they change the set number on the front to match the new set, or is that the reason the set number system was abandoned?  According to Colin Marsden's book 'HST Silver Jubilee' the other power car originally allocated to set 253040 was 43149. It would be conclusive to see a picture of this one at about the same time to see if it still had the set number on the front.  I'm sure you can help with other pictures I have of unidentified HST power cars!  Kind regards Trevorr  43149/150 were the allocated power cars to 253 040. Despite Peter K's observation of 43150 on a Cross-Country set on 03.05.87 (post 189), I don't think we can be sure that it would have stayed in situ from the date of your shot in February 87 Trevor. By1987 power cars were being swapped around fairly frequently, although it is not impossible that a PC would stay with one set for a prolonged period. I have fairly extensive notes of WR internal sets during 1987. I will see if I can locate 43150 in the period between February and May 87, but not until much later today.  As far as set numbering goes, no, the unit numbers on power cars were not re-applied to match the new set, if it was different from its own. The unit numbering on WR executive painted power cars was a strange quirk, given that by the start of the fleet wide repainting programme in early 1985, the WR had followed the ER's example, and abandoned the practice of keeping power cars to their allocated sets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 HSTs in the (urban) landscape this time, although too far away to identify... (I think one of these may have appeared already somewhere on this site a while ago)  017a (1640gS) between Brunel St.(left) +Trevethick St. Gateshead 1991 (T Ermel).jpg Southbound through Gateshead on 30th March 1991. The street on the left is Brunel Street, on the right is Trevethick Street. The streets in this part of town were named after famous engineers etc. and the incorrect spelling (should be Trevithick of course) was never corrected(!)  017B (DSC_0949a) HST rear Trevethick St 24-1-17 (T.Ermel).jpg At the same spot on 24th January 2017 with the new Trevethick Street (same spelling) on the right. No sign of Brunel Street now.  (1630xS) HST Gateshead 1987 (T Ermel) .jpg Near King Edward Bridge Junction, Gateshead, in 1987. The HST has just come over the King Edward Bridge from Newcastle. In the background is the (in)famous St. Cuthbert's Village, built in the 1960s and mostly demolished 30 years later. It is impossible to replicate this shot today as trees and bushes block the view.  Cheers Trevor Having never heard of St Cuthbert's village, I googled it to have a read and guess who's picture pops up! https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/history/troubled-gateshead-housing-estate-stood-14125241 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted July 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2018 I remember trying to get photos of Gateshead depot from the stairs of those flats many decades ago, but I didn't feel particularly safe in there and abandoned the idea rather quickly. Â What were you worried about Jonny; the structural integrity of the building, or the moral integrity of the locals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Commoner Posted July 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2018 Trevor, Looking through my records I found the following formation for a NE/SW set on 3.5.87:  43150 (Executive livery, with 253040 on front), W41161, W40421*, W42084, W42085, W42086, W42087, W44069 (all the trailers in blue/grey livery), 43178 (Executive livery; no unit number)  The * indicates the buffet end of the vehicle.  Thank you, Peter. It's a good job somebody went to the trouble of making such meticulous notes at the time! It looks like my shot is of 43150, then.  Which begs the question: when power cars got switched between sets (as was bound to happen), did they change the set number on the front to match the new set, or is that the reason the set number system was abandoned?  According to Colin Marsden's book 'HST Silver Jubilee' the other power car originally allocated to set 253040 was 43149. It would be conclusive to see a picture of this one at about the same time to see if it still had the set number on the front.  I'm sure you can help with other pictures I have of unidentified HST power cars!  Kind regards Trevorr  I have just had a look at my notes.  17th January 1987 43150/027, 41166, 40431, 42307/8/9/43, 44088 on the 07.00 Bradford-Paignton  30th January 1987 43150/018, 41166, 40431, 42307/8/9/43, 44088, (44081 locked out of use) 20.05 Paddington-Swansea  10th February 1987 43149/165, 41143/44, 40418, 42295/96/97, 44084 13.30 Paddington-Bristol TM  Not conclusive, but seems more likely your shot of "253 040" on 8th February 1987 is probably 43150. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Ha ha - very good! Did you note the date of this one, Jonny? I can check to see if I was in the area too.  Cheers Trevor    Yes Trevor, 11th January 1986. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGJ Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 43031 Â 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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