Craig85 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) Having received my HUO today and the level of detail is like nothing I have seen on a wagon in OO gauge. I will be definitely be ordering some of these as I think these will be fantastic. Keep up the great work lads. Cheers Craig. Edited June 8, 2018 by Craig85 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I will be defiantly be ordering some of these as I think these will be fantastic. You rebellious little tinker, you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 AS/IRM's third Irish model is this soon to ship Tara mines ore wagon And their Irish fourth model is this ballast plough van with working DCC lights Look at the inside. This company seem to be creating a whole new ball game for ultra fine scale detail in model wagons. But don't read anything or any clues into these Irish wagons. These guys think outside the box and are bound to pleasantly surprise. That's a worry. I hope they don't follow the trend and produce a Consett iron ore bogie hopper as the third model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) Sitting in the pub this afternoon (after a few hours wagoning) we were anxious that this announcement seemed too long in coming.So thanks Patrick for relieving the strain. Good luck they look great so far. Paul Edited June 7, 2018 by hmrspaul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 How do you guys manage to pull off such a tight plan? Prototype survey to finished model in 9 - 10 months is very challenging. It would be difficult enough if tooling, trials and production were local but with everything in China it could be quite a rough ride. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted June 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2018 Well that'll do nicely. Mind you, the question I keep asking is "did the 33's ever run north of York". Maybe a motive power shortage had them run to Gateshead. I have 2 33's waiting for someone to come up with the evidence. Otherwise it'll just have to be a bit of license. https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/12266730184 Here’s a pair arriving at York... going southbound. I don’t know where at York the loco swap occurred, was it North of York, as that’s the Scarborough line behind them and there heading south into the station. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted June 7, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2018 Thanks very much for the kind words and feedback so far, not to mention orders! It always reassures us that our gambles pay off How do you guys manage to pull off such a tight plan? Prototype survey to finished model in 9 - 10 months is very challenging. It would be difficult enough if tooling, trials and production were local but with everything in China it could be quite a rough ride. It takes a huge amount of effort, we won’t lie. We have to go with our convictions too and work fast in this very competitive market. It is a case of ‘you snooze, you lose’. We have seen an announcement or two since we started which picked prototypes we were working on. It happens and you have to make a call on it to leave it aside (as we have done with one) or keep going as you have passed the point of no return (the HUO) and work fast whilst putting everything you can into it. We done it from survey to delivery in less than 7 months. With the cemflo it seemed a no brainer. We could’ve done a ‘landgrab’ like some other companies do and not touch it for a few years along with other stuff we’re working on, but we felt that it is deceptive to other manufacturers and most of all, the customer. We can understand doing it even 12/18 months in advance, but this act of announcing something and not touching it for 3 or 4 years at least is very silly and unfair on modellers. That’s why with us we work our socks off (and it really is 7 days a week at the moment!) to get these to you within a few months, with the heavy lifting already done. Keeping modellers happy and not letting them down with false dawns and ridiculous waiting times is part of our ethos. You will also see over the next couple of weeks that “heavy lifting” has been done on other new items too which will also see announcements in the style of today. So, watch this space 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishswissernie Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/12266730184 Here’s a pair arriving at York... going southbound. I don’t know where at York the loco swap occurred, was it North of York, as that’s the Scarborough line behind them and there heading south into the station. Says in the extended caption to the photo that motive power was changed at Clifton which is the yard just north of York at the junction of the avoiding lines and the Harrogate Branch. Here are a few images off my Flickr site of the wagons/trains: https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/41933206254/in/dateposted/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/41751359675/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/40843302610/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/40442076720/in/album-72157696306312174/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/27725013667/in/album-72157667720173777/ Ernie 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 0104.jpg After the warm and positive reception our HUOs have received from customers, we thought we better crack on and announce our second model for the British market. So, welcome to the iconic APCM Cemflo/PCV wagon in 4mm scale by Accurascale. A total of 285 of these bulk cement wagons were constructed for Associated Portland Cement Manufacturers (APCM) between 1961 and 1965. When introduced, they carried the company’s Blue Circle Cement branding. 0107.jpg The first lot of wagons were built by the Gloucester Railway Carriage & Wagon Company (diagram 6/433, TOPS design code PC 001A), with a later batch manufactured by Metropolitan-Cammell (diagram 6/430, design code PC 003A). It is the latter type which our model represents. The wagons are probably best known for their use on cement trains from Cliffe, near Gravesend in Kent, to Uddingston on the outskirts of Glasgow. This train was unusual as it was hauled by BRCW Type 3 (later class 33) diesels of BR’s Southern Region, often working in pairs, which would haul the train as far as York. With reversals required as it made its way around London, these trains were also notable for having a brake van at either end of the rake of 30+ wagons. 0108.jpg Cemflo wagons were also utilised to haul cement from Holborough Cement Works in Kent’s Medway Valley to Widnes in Lancashire. By 1969, the Cemflo fleet migrated north, where they handled traffic from Eastgate in Durham, Hope in the Peak District, and Oxwellmains works near Dunbar in Scotland. Cemflos from Eastgate served Grangemouth and the APCM terminal at Sunderland South Dock, while the wagons assigned to Hope served Dewsbury and Widnes (the latter saw them run mixedvwith Presflo wagons). Meanwhile, Cemflos from Oxwellmains carried cement to Aberdeen, Dundee, Grangemouth, and Uddingston. Several types of locomotives were observed hauling Cemflos during their time in service, including class 25s, class 26s, class 27s, class 31s, class 33s, class 37s, class 40s, class 45s, class 47s… even 9Fs and A4s! 0106.jpg The last of the Cemflo fleet were withdrawn in mid-1988, and today only a single wagon (a Met-Cammell example) survives, preserved by the Darlington Railway Preservation Society. We conducted a survey of this wagon earlier this year and would like to thank the society for facilitating the surveying of the prototype. 0108.jpg CAD is complete, and tooling will shortly commence for the Cemflo, which will maintain the high standards set by our HUO wagon. There will be seven packs of three wagons in pre-TOPS condition, with another six packs in TOPS guise. There will also be a single wagon pack on offer in both pre-TOPS and TOPS condition. Delivery is anticipated for late October 2018 for pre-TOPS, and December for TOPS packs. The price for triple packs is £73.95 for a triple pack and £25.95 for a single wagon. Customers who pre-order a pre TOPS or TOPS rake from our website before stock arrives will get the single wagon thrown in for free, with a reduced rate rake deal for a limited time as a special thank you for your support! You can order direct right now at https://accurascale.co.uk/product-category/wagons/cemflo/ This is the first of a series of announcements over the coming weeks, so keep an eye out for more exciting news! Why did I bother? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/98673-building-better-cemflos/?hl=cemflo&do=findComment&comment=1872470 At least mine are Gloucester ones. Regards, John Isherwood. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted June 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2018 Thanks very much for the kind words and feedback so far, not to mention orders! It always reassures us that our gambles pay off It takes a huge amount of effort, we won’t lie. We have to go with our convictions too and work fast in this very competitive market. It is a case of ‘you snooze, you lose’. We have seen an announcement or two since we started which picked prototypes we were working on. It happens and you have to make a call on it to leave it aside (as we have done with one) or keep going as you have passed the point of no return (the HUO) and work fast whilst putting everything you can into it. We done it from survey to delivery in less than 7 months. With the cemflo it seemed a no brainer. We could’ve done a ‘landgrab’ like some other companies do and not touch it for a few years along with other stuff we’re working on, but we felt that it is deceptive to other manufacturers and most of all, the customer. We can understand doing it even 12/18 months in advance, but this act of announcing something and not touching it for 3 or 4 years at least is very silly and unfair on modellers. That’s why with us we work our socks off (and it really is 7 days a week at the moment!) to get these to you within a few months, with the heavy lifting already done. Keeping modellers happy and not letting them down with false dawns and ridiculous waiting times is part of our ethos. You will also see over the next couple of weeks that “heavy lifting” has been done on other new items too which will also see announcements in the style of today. So, watch this space It seems popular to ask for a break van, though it’s unlikely i’ll buy a trainload of 15-20 Brake vans. we haven’t have a milk wagon since Lima & Dapol in the 1980’s. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Great choice. Look forward to seeing them appear. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted June 7, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2018 Why did I bother? IMG_7378.JPG IMG_7382.JPG http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/98673-building-better-cemflos/?hl=cemflo&do=findComment&comment=1872470 At least mine are Gloucester ones. Regards, John Isherwood. Super models John, some metro camm’s among them would work well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Says in the extended caption to the photo that motive power was changed at Clifton which is the yard just north of York at the junction of the avoiding lines and the Harrogate Branch. Here are a few images off my Flickr site of the wagons/trains: https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/41933206254/in/dateposted/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/41751359675/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/40843302610/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/40442076720/in/album-72157696306312174/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/27725013667/in/album-72157667720173777/ Ernie Come on Ernie, Shake a leg. You forgot the most important one: https://flic.kr/p/26BqCGR 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishswissernie Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) Come on Ernie, Shake a leg. You forgot the most important one: https://flic.kr/p/26BqCGR I forgot about that one! ECML Vale of York moved up the uploading pipeline so how about a bit of underframe"detail" but I can't guarantee the detail is still in the right place! https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/40855431670/in/dateposted/ Or here's a rake of 5 behind an 08 https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/41946565604/in/dateposted/ Ernie Edited June 8, 2018 by Irishswissernie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) In the accident shot, the suspension on the 2 closest to the camera suggest that they are Gloucester builds. The next two to the left looks like a Metro Cammell. The bottom discharge equipment is different. Is this a consistent difference between the two manufacturers? Thanks. Edited June 8, 2018 by RBAGE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted June 8, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 8, 2018 In the accident shot, the suspension on the 2 closest to the camera suggest that they are Gloucester builds. The next two to the left looks like a Metro Cammell. The bottom discharge equipment is different. Is this a consistent difference between the two manufacturers? Thanks. To our knowledge they are quite different in this area. The Gloucester wagon would certainly have to be all new tooling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Just a thought. I wonder whether sales of these might benefit from money for the Bachmann Freightliner flats that people have been saving up for since there announcement, 4 years ago. I reckon, if you lads started on FFA and FGA now, there is a chance that you would release yours first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I wonder whether sales of these might benefit from money for the Bachmann Freightliner flats that people have been saving up for since there announcement, 4 years ago. I reckon, if you lads started on FFA and FGA now, there is a chance that you would release yours first. I don't think even Accurascale could win that race; the flats are inbound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Stewart Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Just seen this announcement. Cement Works diorama Finance Committee convened. If I don't get my way I'll resign, and stamp my feet and scweam and scweam until I'm sick. Didn't somebody do that yesterday? Sramble Political moderators. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Just seen this announcement. Cement Works diorama Finance Committee convened. If I don't get my way I'll resign, and stamp my feet and scweam and scweam until I'm sick. Didn't somebody do that yesterday? Sramble Political moderators. Ian Don't forget, you could always use covert operations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 It seems popular to ask for a break van, though it’s unlikely i’ll buy a trainload of 15-20 Brake vans. we haven’t have a milk wagon since Lima & Dapol in the 1980’s. The trouble with milk tankers - lovely though they might be - was that there were lots an' lots of very small, differing, batches ..... so I think a generic one's the best you're likely to get from the ready-to-run trade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Budd Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 You guys certainly know how to push our buttons! Having got me hooked with the delightful HUOs, you are now reeling me in with these (not so little) beauties. At first I thought they would be amongst the last wagons I might need for my tiny P4 shunting plank but, as luck would have it, I've just noticed a previously undiscovered Blue Circle depot just a few miles up the line from the exchange sidings, so it looks like an order will be on its way. Please keep up the very good work and many thanks in advance. Arthur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Why did I bother? IMG_7378.JPG IMG_7382.JPG http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/98673-building-better-cemflos/?hl=cemflo&do=findComment&comment=1872470 At least mine are Gloucester ones. Regards, John Isherwood. Because you doing that has made this happen in possibly the best ever occurrence of that strange modelling law "completion of kit / scratchbuild = RTR announcement within weeks" .......................... and we are eternally grateful ........................ and your conversions look superb, so no wasted effort IMHO 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Ideal candidate for a "Doh!" (or similar expletive laden comment) speech bubble from the chap on the right! ECML Vale of York moved up the uploading pipeline so how about a bit of underframe"detail" but I can't guarantee the detail is still in the right place! https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/40855431670/in/dateposted/ Ernie Big thanks Ernie , by the way, for all the brilliant pictures you are uploading. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishswissernie Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Big thanks Ernie , by the way, for all the brilliant pictures you are uploading. Thanks and I would like to pass the appreciation firstly to the great foresight of photographers who took the original photos/slides and also my gratitude to The Armstrong Railway Photographic Trust and others for their consent to me being able to display their images alongside my humble efforts. Ernie 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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