RBAGE Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, adb968008 said: I’ve waited 44 years for a decent Cemflo, now 22 are coming at once. :-) Its a pretty iconic well travelled, long lived wagon, i’m surprised it’s taken so long for someone to do it. its it’s going to be a long day tomorrow... Enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) So for those of us héll bent on using a 26 mm standard axle length here's how mine was sorted. I dug out my Twirley, Spinney, twisty, whirly thingy. (Think I'll have to dream up some jazzier name for it now it's out in public. This is a gadget I knocked up eons ago that is an old Gibson axle to which I've filed off exactly half of the coning at one end but ensuring the length remained at 26mm over ends. It's surprisingly good at removing plastic when you slip it into a wagon and turn it using the single wheel. I used it for sorting axle boxes on rtr wagons that didn't run to freely. It was similarly used on the Cemflo regularly turning the cutting end to deepen the opposite axle hole to ensure equal amounts was removed from each side. In theory you cannot deepen the axle coning to more than 26mm unless you really give the W irons/axle boxes a bl**dy good squeeze. Picture sez a thousand words and all that. A Twirley, Spinney, twisty, whirly thingy earlier today. The Twirley, Spinney, twisty, whirly thingy ready to do its stuff. Upper is factory fresh. Lower is after the Twirley, Spinney, twisty, whirly thingy has done its stuff. How well did it work. You tell me? P Edited July 15, 2022 by Porcy Mane Replace missing images after outage. 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) I appear to be thinking along the right lines, I have the vision, but am maybe a step ahead of myself.... That break van will play an important part tomorrow.. Edited March 26, 2019 by adb968008 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) A couple of close ups of my new toy... theres an an amazing amount of detail here.. only one brick to throw, the tank doesn’t lock to the chassis.. when I lifted it I felt the tank shift, and you can see it’s held by the pipes on the side, leaving a gap between tank and chassis, I tried 10 of them, it’s the same on all. A dab of glue on the lug underside may be required just to secure it, it goes into place as easily as it comes out. With careful handling it won’t be a problem, but thought it worthy of mention. Likes.. those screw links.. the hundreds of separate detail pieces paint finish is excellant the finish of the buffer heads is very nice The rivets. Finesse of things like brake handles, tank lid handles, just look under this tank... (underside end of tank above the frame, below the tank) I don’t even know what they are but they look good.. Verdict.. your getting a lot of wagon for your money. When you consider another manufacturer is offering a 30+ year old 2 piece wagon (top and chassis) with moulded buffers for the same price as this wagon, which has got literally loads of separate pieces on. It beats the HUO into 2nd place, but Accurascale is now holding 1st and 2nd place in the wagon stakes. playtime tomorrow, tonight I am going to sleep dreaming that Accurascale consider an LMS 8f to go with their wagons, or my outside pet favourite.. an L&Y A class (and it’s sub classes). Edited March 26, 2019 by adb968008 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) Has anyone fitted Smiths screw/3/Instanters to these wagons yet? Is the chassis drillable and 'slot-able' to get them in? Any pictures if you have? Looking at prototypes it looks like Screws were fitted but experieince wold suggest that 3/Instanters will be easier to live with on exhibition layouts? Edited March 27, 2019 by gridwatcher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2019 8 hours ago, adb968008 said: It beats the HUO into 2nd place, but Accurascale is now holding 1st and 2nd place in the wagon stakes. When the whisky wagon comes along they will have 1st, 2nd and 3rd! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said: When the whisky wagon comes along they will have 1st, 2nd and 3rd! Mike. With the PCAs due in a couple of weeks, they will already have 1st, 2nd and 3rd! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted March 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2019 5 hours ago, gridwatcher said: Has anyone fitted Smiths screw/3/Instanters to these wagons yet? Is the chassis drillable and 'slot-able' to get them in? Any pictures if you have? Looking at prototypes it looks like Screws were fitted but experieince wold suggest that 3/Instanters will be easier to live with on exhibition layouts? Hi grid, each of the wagons are supplied with 2 screw link couplers in the parts bag! HTH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 13 hours ago, adb968008 said: One tiny detail for future reference - the overhead live wire plaque should not have black lettering - they were entirely red on white. Regards, John Isherwood. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, cctransuk said: One tiny detail for future reference - the overhead live wire plaque should not have black lettering - they were entirely red on white. ... and there should be one placed centrally towards the top of the tank next to the weld. It must still be in a cupboard in China along with LA 200's running number & vac release indicator. Easily sorted though. I like the lack of a number. gives us the chance to number some of the wagons not offered in the initial release. Maybe there is a opportunity for some budding transfer manufacturer? Shows how far things have progressed when we are quibbling over the colour of the text on a 3 x 6 inch plate. In the pic below the Accurascale tank is resting on the official Mett Cam portrait that appears in "Metro-Cammell", the book, by Keith Beddoes & Colin & Stephen Wheeler. P Edited March 27, 2019 by Porcy Mane Add more gumph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium drjcontroller Posted March 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 27, 2019 On 24/03/2019 at 06:06, 071 said: Hi Douglas, can you send this as an email to info@accurascale.co.uk and mark it for the attention of our technical director as I believe he has a solution? We will post it as a blog on our site too during the week after the Ally Pally madness dies down. Cheers, Fran Fran, Just to let you know I've managed to sort it now and have emailed Richard to confirm. Thanks again for such a superb wagon and your usual excellent customer service. Looking forward to the Deltic and whatever other goodies you're planning to throw our way in the future. Thanks again, Douglas 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2019 Ive gone inside... The pipes on the sides are push fit, just unplug either by hand or with a cocktail stick and off it comes. plenty of internal space, pending how first test runs go, probably tomorrow, i may add a bit of extra weight inside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted March 27, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2019 45 minutes ago, Porcy Mane said: ... and there should be one placed centrally towards the top of the tank next to the weld. It must still be in a cupboard in China along with LA 200's running number & vac release indicator. Easily sorted though. I like the lack of a number. gives us the chance to number some of the wagons not offered in the initial release. Maybe there is a opportunity for some budding transfer manufacturer? Shows how far things have progressed when we are quibbling over the colour of the text on a 3 x 6 inch plate. In the pic below the Accurascale tank is resting on the official Mett Cam portrait that appears in "Metro-Cammell", the book, by Keith Beddoes & Colin & Stephen Wheeler. P Hi everyone, Not sure quite how it happened (internal investiagtion ongoing, with a view to provide a right good hiding to parties responsible later!) but it looks like we have indeed created what many customers have badgered us for lately; an unnumbered wagon! So, fill yer boots and convince us we should do more in future. Since these also ran in TOPS with the Blue Circle boards in some cases, they make for good conversion fodder there too. Sorry everyone, we will do better next time. Cheers! Fran 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 hours ago, McC said: Hi grid, each of the wagons are supplied with 2 screw link couplers in the parts bag! HTH Hi Lads I know. Chatted with Fran this a.m. But the (beautiful) supplied screw links are still a bit stiff in the horizontal plane and might not be reliable enough in the hurly burly of running 20 odd wagon block trains on a exhibition layout 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 42 minutes ago, 071 said: Hi everyone, Not sure quite how it happened (internal investiagtion ongoing, with a view to provide a right good hiding to parties responsible later!) but it looks like we have indeed created what many customers have badgered us for lately; an unnumbered wagon! So, fill yer boots and convince us we should do more in future. Since these also ran in TOPS with the Blue Circle boards in some cases, they make for good conversion fodder there too. Sorry everyone, we will do better next time. Cheers! Fran That's what we like to hear, someone is going to get a damned good thrashing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 minute ago, gridwatcher said: Hi Lads I know. Chatted with Fran this a.m. But the (beautiful) supplied screw links are still a bit stiff in the horizontal plane and might not be reliable enough in the hurly burly of running 20 odd wagon block trains on a exhibition layout Not complaining but it would have been useful if the coupling could be clipped into place. As it is, it will have to be permanently glued in place and any failures on a 20 plus train would be down to my poor workmanship. Not sure yet what radius the couplings will negotiate or are they intended to be cosmetic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted March 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, gridwatcher said: Hi Lads I know. Chatted with Fran this a.m. But the (beautiful) supplied screw links are still a bit stiff in the horizontal plane and might not be reliable enough in the hurly burly of running 20 odd wagon block trains on a exhibition layout If you are running block trains, how about using moulded screw links that clip into the NEM pockets? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted March 27, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, gridwatcher said: Hi Lads I know. Chatted with Fran this a.m. But the (beautiful) supplied screw links are still a bit stiff in the horizontal plane and might not be reliable enough in the hurly burly of running 20 odd wagon block trains on a exhibition layout Give it a go you big sissy! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted March 27, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2019 Just now, RBAGE said: Not complaining but it would have been useful if the coupling could be clipped into place. As it is, it will have to be permanently glued in place and any failures on a 20 plus train would be down to my poor workmanship. Not sure yet what radius the couplings will negotiate or are they intended to be cosmetic? They are intended to be purely cosmetic Bob, just very nicely done (we were most impressed when we saw them first time, well done to China on that one) Cheers Fran 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, gridwatcher said: I know. Chatted with Fran this a.m. But the (beautiful) supplied screw links are still a bit stiff in the horizontal plane and might not be reliable enough in the hurly burly of running 20 odd wagon block trains on a exhibition layout Still the best rendering of a RIV international screw that I've seen. I loosened mine up nicely with a bit of twiddling. The plastic rivets may be a bit suspect but a bit more fiddling will see them strengthened up and sprung. The steel links are nice for those wanting to use magnetic uncoupling sticks. P 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, 071 said: They are intended to be purely cosmetic Bob, just very nicely done (we were most impressed when we saw them first time, well done to China on that one) Cheers Fran I can see these lovely couplings ending up on the front of locos, never mind hidden between 2 wagons. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted March 27, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, RBAGE said: I can see these lovely couplings ending up on the front of locos, never mind hidden between 2 wagons. Sales of them in accessory packs have been very strong, which is great. Mind you, we do them at good value. We have instanters coming with the PCAs too, same gig again. They're also quite lovely 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 minute ago, RBAGE said: I can see these lovely couplings ending up on the front of locos, never mind hidden between 2 wagons. Not many kettles with those RIV links & hooks but plenty of diseasels (but with more substantial hooks), BR Brakes along with dozens and dozens of the more modern type of wagon. Now those seperate spring mouldings. I could make use of a few of those... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted March 27, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2019 We have been sent these pictures from a customer of their P4 conversion, about 8 mins per wagon and very straightforward, which is good news! Do look well for it too... Cheers, Fran 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 35 minutes ago, RBAGE said: I can see these lovely couplings ending up on the front of locos, never mind hidden between 2 wagons. Exactly our point....and what I intend to do with the 24 that are on the way here from Dublin! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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