RMweb Gold zr2498 Posted May 31, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2019 24 minutes ago, RBAGE said: If anyone would like to express any interest, it might help to cover the cost of CAD drawings and printing and encourage me to follow the printing route. The barrel on the Gloucester's and the Met Camms are, as far as I can tell, the same size. That the Gloucester's sit higher on the chassis explains many of the visible differences: - air pipe offset - higher support gusset - end platform cylinder positions I don't intend changing the end cylinders but I did commission Gloucester cylinders for my Triang conversion a few years ago. These cylinders are still available. If you want to convert your cemflos to the correct height, you also need to consider the barrel ribs. These will need to be extended to the chassis. I have drawings from the Gloucester archive. Surprisingly, the archive also had Met Camm drawings. I have a great contact for such information but I'm not sure if he would be happy for him to post his name but suffice to say, these conversions would be much more difficult and very much approximations without his help. You might need a few expressions of interest for the 3 D printing but you can put my name down so far. Would it be possible to scan the relevent parts of drawings and post them here assuming you can get permission. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 David, Send me a message with your email address and we can discuss what I have and what you need. Bob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillar Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) On 27/05/2019 at 18:44, zr2498 said: Here goes with stage 2 of the Cemflo weathering a) As previously mentioned we now come to oil paints which sounds a bit scary, but it can be worked and easily removed with white spirit so there is plenty of time to adjust. I was using the colours as below Fantastic weathering you've achieved there. Can I ask whether you had any issue with the white spirit affecting the factory-applied finish on the models? Unfortunately I managed to spill isopropanol on one of mine and it removed a patch of silver from the barrel within a few seconds! This surprised me, as I've previously found that isopropanol needed a long soak to remove any sort of factory-applied paint by other manfuacturers. I suppose it could be due to the finish being metallic. Hopefully I can cover it up with some strategically placed cement strains... Edited June 3, 2019 by Pillar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold zr2498 Posted June 3, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Pillar said: Fantastic weathering you've achieved there. Can I ask whether you had any issue with the white spirit affecting the factory-applied finish on the models? Unfortunately I managed to spill isopropanol on one of mine and it removed a patch of silver from the barrel within a few seconds! This surprised me, as I've previously found that isopropanol needed a long soak to remove any sort of factory-applied paint by other manfuacturers. I suppose it could be due to the finish being metallic. Hopefully I can cover it up with some strategically placed cement strains... White spirit did not adversely effect the paint finish (when mixing with the oils), and even when I used a flat damp brush (white spirit) to clean up overpaint with the very first task of panel lining. I guess flooding the surface might have behaved differently. I did have one or two issues with decals being attacked so was careful not to paint too much oil over them and kept the spray clear when airbrushing acrylics to the lower tank area. The Dullcote varnish might give a degree of protection. Your solution with a stain cover sounds ideal. The Isoproponal will be more aggressive (last resort for cleaning unwanted paint off), so perhaps there lies the problem. Pleased to help David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) Now claimed Hi All, I have 10 sets of Genesis PCV axlebox castings (from a now abandoned PCV project) that I'd prefer see go to a good home rather than just chuck out - please PM me if you want them - no cost. Edited July 10, 2019 by Southernman46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted July 8, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8, 2019 If anyone is looking for some cemflo inspiration, it's worth having a look here on @Dave F's thread, including the single cemflo hauled away by a chopper after the Thirsk incident. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/85326-dave-fs-photos-ongoing-more-added-8th-july/&do=findComment&comment=1438129 Great pics! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 19 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: If anyone is looking for some cemflo inspiration, it's worth having a look here on @Dave F's thread, including the single cemflo hauled away by a chopper after the Thirsk incident. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/85326-dave-fs-photos-ongoing-more-added-8th-july/&do=findComment&comment=1438129 Great pics! Look at all those lovely PVVs at the front of the train of cemflos. Pity nobody has done these lovely vans that would suit the Accurascale cemflo perfectly. Smashing article in this months Hornby magazine on Cemflo weathering and a section on conversion to the Gloucester vehicle. I'm still struggling to get someones attention to prepare CAD and print parts to complete my conversions. If anyone is interested in conversions, can produce 3D print design files and can print, please get in touch. I have drawings of the Gloucesters and the only part that is beyond me is the bottom discharge. I've tried scratch building in styrene but it looks a bit hefty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, RBAGE said: Look at all those lovely PVVs at the front of the train of cemflos. Almost as desirable as a... dare I say it... C... Con... Conflat L. https://www.flickr.com/photos/actonwellsjunction/ P Edited July 9, 2019 by Porcy Mane 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Porcy Mane said: Almost as desirable as a... dare I say it... C... Con... Conflat L. https://www.flickr.com/photos/actonwellsjunction/ P Couldn't agree more - and two versions into the bargain. I've got them all - Tri-ang, Genesis and Bill Bedford's - but an RTR would be very desirable for running a decent rake. Regards, John Isherwood. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, cctransuk said: I've got them all - Tri-ang, Genesis and Bill Bedford's - but an RTR would be very desirable for running a decent rake. So have did I. Must admit to the Genesis jobbies being converted into boiler ballast as not fit for purpose. Lots of detail required to bring the Bedford containers up to scratch: and sixteen of these little b*ggers to knock up per wagon. Tis enough to drive you barmy. Oh, hang on a mo, I've reached that destination already. Common you Dublin boys. I'll even buy you a Guinness apiece. P Edited July 9, 2019 by Porcy Mane 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 And 2 straws? Stewart 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted July 10, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 10, 2019 On 09/07/2019 at 13:40, RBAGE said: Look at all those lovely PVVs at the front of the train of cemflos. Pity nobody has done these lovely vans that would suit the Accurascale cemflo perfectly. Now that's a good idea! Who do we know who could do something like that? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox321 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 On 10/07/2019 at 22:19, Mick Bonwick said: Now that's a good idea! Who do we know who could do something like that? Someone from Ireland? Plus Gloucester Cemflo's too............ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 On 10/07/2019 at 22:19, Mick Bonwick said: Now that's a good idea! Who do we know who could do something like that? Isn't someone from the Duchy producing a PRA? Weren't the PRAs built on chassis from PVVs? Or am I talking b*ll*cks? Regards, John Isherwood. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 2 hours ago, cctransuk said: Isn't someone from the Duchy producing a PRA? Weren't the PRAs built on chassis from PVVs? Or am I talking b*ll*cks? Regards, John Isherwood. You're perfectly correct, John; PVVs were used for the PRA, and also the PSA (two styles of bodywork) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold zr2498 Posted July 18, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18, 2019 For those doing the Gloucester conversion. Modelu have put the vacuum cylinders on their web site https://www.modelu3d.co.uk/product-category/detailing-components/locomotive-detailing/rolling-stock/ Following on from some correspondence with Bob, the alternative route for the different discharge equipment of the Cemflo would be a photoetch for the complete unit. This would give finer detail than a 3D print. I will have a go at the design after a couple of other jobs for artwork have been completed. Bob has kindly supplied some engineering drawings. Dave 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox321 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 On 14/07/2019 at 21:33, cctransuk said: Isn't someone from the Duchy producing a PRA? Weren't the PRAs built on chassis from PVVs? Or am I talking b*ll*cks? Regards, John Isherwood. No, not b*ll*cks, but if they do it then your talking alot of money! Maybe even pricier than a pair of b*ll*cks? ......Just in case they do do it, and you have to cash em in! LOL! Best Wishes, C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted August 8, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 8, 2019 Attention N gaugers, the Revolution N gauge cemflo is now open for orders! https://www.revolutiontrains.com/product/cemflo-pcv/ Cheers! Fran 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Is there a prototype for the Triang Yellow PCAs? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted November 23, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, mikesndbs said: Is there a prototype for the Triang Yellow PCAs? Hi Mike, We never found a yellow one in our research, so I reckon not. But, if anyone has a pic, please send it on! Cheers, Fran 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi Mike, We never found a yellow one in our research, so I reckon not. But, if anyone has a pic, please send it on! Cheers, Fran Porcy, someone's thrown the gauntlet down. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted November 23, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, mikesndbs said: Is there a prototype for the Triang Yellow PCAs? I have been hounding my colleagues since the Cemflo was a spark in the eye on our designers - to no avail! if anyone can find a photo of a yellow one - I'll buy them a pack myself 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted November 23, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2019 I have seen A photo of a yellow metailair PCA but not a PCV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 3 hours ago, BR Blue said: I have seen A photo of a yellow metailair PCA but not a PCV. The only yellow ones I know of are the first few of the original Presflo design and some of the Chevron type PCA in the 1980’s, never seen any reference to Metalair ones in anything but grey! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted November 29, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2019 Just ordered TOPS era set. These ran until the mid 80s so I was on the fence but there is a 40% discount so that made up my mind 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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