APT-P Photographs

[Rob F]

11 hours ago, Commoner said:

 

 

I have rechecked my original notes from 20/09/81 and the transcription I made later, and unfortunately I can't resolve the anomaly.  48106 is clearly recorded which must be incorrect as this was a DVT which wouldn't have been marshalled in the middle of the train's consist.  Like you I have now searched for other observations from the web along with photographs without success.  I wonder if you had thought about requesting for a list of stock from the OD on this and other other forums.  I am sure somebody out there will have noted the full formation.  Apologies again for my error.  Hope the missing bit of detail turns up.

DTS rather than DVT.

[daveyb]

Which trains were APT-P and which were APT-S?

 

There must have been some significant differences between the original P trains and those that briefly entered service as S trains.  Or did they just evolve from P to S? 

 

Was the livery the start of the Intercity that replaced B&G or was it different? - I seem to remember the APT-P was Red White Blue but that the service livery was Intercity grey/stone including black windscreen surrounds.  I'm trying to dredge my mind from Rainhill in 79 and the fateful winter of the early 80s when the failed to impress (through a combination of factors).

[Titan]

There were no S trains as such, just APT-E and APT-P. The closest thing to the S train was the class 91 and Mk4s. 

 

Hornby produced their APT with a rendition of grey which was somewhat on the blue side, and not accurate. It could be this you are thinking of. I am not quite sure if the grey on the full size APT-P was the same as intercity grey, others more knowledgeable may know. I don't think the livery on the APT-P was changed at all, other than the addition of black window surrounds and other minor variations.

[keefer]

Actual and proposed formations at apt-p.com : http://www.apt-p.com/APTConfigurations.htm

[RedgateModels]

On 30/06/2019 at 23:15, Mr_Tilt said:

By the time it got to Shildon the paintwork was pretty much scrap on both sides.

 

The guys at the Electric Railway Museum did quite a good job of stopping the rot once it got down there, and they re-primed the whole outer shell, but that was all as they ended up fighting officialdom just to try and save the museum, and sadly failed. 

 

But Brian REALLY sorted it out once it got to Crewe, and in a ridiculously short time too! 

 

It's good that the whole Development Train is all in one place now. 

 

It was parked outside the main entrance to Shildon back then ....

 

[woodenhead]

Bit of photographic action around the APT this afternoon, I doubt this is a scanning party though, they've been around the site all day, probably a site working party of some sort.

 

[Mr_Tilt]

Brian will probably know, specially if it was a working party. 

[APT-P]

On 21/08/2018 at 19:50, Mr_Tilt said:

 

Yes, it was, as Rob had me miked up for the occasion. It's a lot longer than the 'Tilt System' talk as it covered the history of the whole project, as well as I could do it anyway

See and hear Kit's presentation -

 

http://www.apt-p.com/KitSpackmanAPTFADS.htm