RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) I welcome comments about the content of the photos, the workings, the vehicles or anything - each caption / photo has a DASnnnnnn reference, please refer to that when commenting but I want to avoid this topic getting too side tracked so don't wander too far - thanks. I make no apologies for the quality of the photos, they were taken starting 30+ years ago, my first cameras were fairly basic, as were (and still are) my skills behind the camera, the very first camera being a FED range finder with no TTL so often things were misjudged ! (TTL= through the lens = see what you are taking at the time of taking) Some of the negatives are curved, it's possible to buy a negative holder which claims to flatten them but at over £100 I won't be doing that just yet. so some of the scans are fuzzy but this is not (always) a reflection on the quality of the original. Some are damaged slightly but I'm not spending time correcting the faults, I have too many to scan, maybe one day I'll return to them and do something better, maybe not. Some could have been cleaned better, but again time is the issue and I've made my choice so please accept it. The subjects are "as they come" - the negatives are filed and are not in chronological order so the images will butterfly around, again I'm not spending time to resolve this, they are what they are. Enjoy them (hopefully) or ignore the thread. Some of the photos have been posted before, for a while I photographed my old photos but these are, at least on paper negative better quality and there's a lot more of them. Enjoy ... they've brought back many memories for me - and still do, I have ca 125,000 more to scan. Edit : Some of the photos are apparently "trespass shots" - all my photos were taken with permission and under the watchful eye of signalmen, shed foremen etc. - the railway was a different world 30/40 years ago. Edited February 5, 2019 by beast66606 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted June 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2018 Ok - we're off. Enjoy ... they've brought back many memories for me - and still do, I have ca 125,000 more to scan. Looking forward to them - whatever the photographic quality, they'll have a historic quality and that counts for a lot more IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post beast66606 Posted June 15, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2018 DAS000001 Ellesmere Port 18/04/1979 (Wednesday) 47102 runs light engine towards Birkenhead shed DAS000001 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000002 Ellesmere Port 18/04/1979 (Wednesday) 47096 heads light engine towards Ellesmere Port or Stanlow yards DAS000002 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000003 Ellesmere Port 18/04/1979 (Wednesday) 08939 runs wrong line towards Ellesmere Port No.2 - to go into the West yard DAS000003 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr 41 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted June 15, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2018 A great start; looking forward to seeing more as you scan them. DAS000003 - was it normal to have wrong line working? There doesn’t seem to be a need looking at the other photos and point work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 15, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2018 A great start; looking forward to seeing more as you scan them. DAS000003 - was it normal to have wrong line working? There doesn’t seem to be a need looking at the other photos and point work. It was rationalisation - accelerated by a derailment - which meant that the facing move (right line) was no longer available, so the trains had to run wrong line between Ellesmere Port No.4 and Ellesmere Port No.2. The view in DAS000002 shows the crossover still in place but it was out of use at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Enjoy ... they've brought back many memories for me - and still do, I have ca 125,000 more to scan. 125,000??? My goodness, you could post 3 a day, every day of the year for well over 100 years. I may miss many thousands due to death Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 17, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2018 I've had a few problems uploading the next batch to Flickr but they are now on however I'm writing myself a little utility (software) so reformat my description and the Flickr link so I can get all the info, in the right format, with a couple of copy / paste commands - so "bear with" as the kids say. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post beast66606 Posted June 17, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2018 Second batch of photos, Sealand signal box, signals and other infrastructure. DAS000004 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) Sealand lever frame, Levers 1 - 17 DAS000004 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000005 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) ex LNWR Fletchers block instruments at Sealand signal box DAS000005 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000006 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) Sealand signal box diagram DAS000006 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000007 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) Levers 14 - 20 at Sealand signal box DAS000007 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000008 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) Levers 7 - 20 at Sealand signal box DAS000008 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000009 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) Sealand signal box from the Dee Marsh Junction end - showing steps DAS000009 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000010 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) Sealand signal box from the railway - side on view DAS000010 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000011 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) RAF sidings on Up side of line, controlled from Ground Frame, trailing into the Down Main at Sealand DAS000011 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000012 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) Connection from RAF sidings on Up side of line trailing into the Down Main at Sealand, GF visible DAS000012 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000013 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) Ground Frame controlling connection to Down Main, released by lever 1 in Sealand signal box DAS000013 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000014 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) Sealand Up Starter, lever 14, tubular steel DAS000014 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000022 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) Sealand Down Home, lever 4, tubular steel DAS000022 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000025 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) Sealand Down Starter, lever 5, with Dee Marsh down distant, FAC, below, concrete post DAS000025 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000026 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) Sealand Up Home, lever 15, tubular steel, co-acting DAS000026 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000019 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) Sealand down sidings, these connected directly with the down main DAS000019 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000023 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) Sealand - Revolving disk controlling movements from the Down Main- Down Sidings, lever 7 DAS000023 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000024 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) Sealand - Revolving disk controlling movements from the Down Main- Down Sidings, lever 7 DAS000024 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000027 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) Sealand signal box, from the Mickle Trafford end DAS000027 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000030 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) Milepost 5 at Sealand (from Mickle Trafford ?) DAS000030 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr 39 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post beast66606 Posted June 19, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2018 Taken on the same day as the box photos, I was lucky to catch a pair of 25s heading to Warrington to collect a train and bring it back to Dee Marsh. DAS000020 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) 25123(f) and 25073 run light engine from Dee Marsh Junction - Mickle Trafford and then to Warrington, passing Sealand signal box DAS000020 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000021 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) 25123(f) and 25073 run light engine from Dee Marsh Junction - Mickle Trafford and then to .... passing Sealand signal box DAS000021 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000028 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) 25073(f) and 25123 head a Warrington - Shotwick Ore train at Sealand DAS000028 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000029 Sealand 19/04/1979(Thursday) 25073(f) and 25123 head a Warrington - Shotwick Ore train at Sealand DAS000029 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr 29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted June 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 19, 2018 Now that's a proper record of the box Beast! Took me a while to decyhper FAC though.... Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post beast66606 Posted June 20, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2018 DAS000031 Dee Marsh Junction 20/04/1979(Friday) Shotton Steel Works shunters 6, 27 and 3 DAS000031 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000032 Dee Marsh Junction 20/04/1979(Friday) Shotton Steel Works shunters 6, 27, 3, 8 and 4 DAS000032 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000033 Dee Marsh Junction 20/04/1979(Friday) Shotton Steel Works shunters 3, 8 and 4 - more visible along with internal user wagons DAS000033 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000034 Dee Marsh Junction 20/04/1979(Friday) Levers 1 - 46 at Dee Marsh Junction signal box DAS000034 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000035 Dee Marsh Junction 20/04/1979(Friday) ex LNWR Fletchers block instruments at Dee Marsh Junction signal box DAS000035 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000036 Dee Marsh Junction 20/04/1979(Friday) Levers 1 - 15 at Dee Marsh Junction signal box DAS000036 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 20, 2018 Excellent pictures Dave, were the pilots out of service because the blast furnaces had closed? Quite a mixed fleet, are they NBL and hunslets? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 20, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 20, 2018 Excellent pictures Dave, were the pilots out of service because the blast furnaces had closed? Quite a mixed fleet, are they NBL and hunslets? Hi Russ, not sure of the reason but they were certainly out of service. No further details I'm afraid, I took the shots on a whim while looking out of the back of Dee Marsh Junction signal box. It#s a pity I didn't wander over and take some more detailed shots - hindsight and all that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 20, 2018 Thanks for the signal pics Dave, just knocking a couple of MSE LMS tubulars together, very apposite. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Excellent pictures Dave, were the pilots out of service because the blast furnaces had closed? Quite a mixed fleet, are they NBL and hunslets? A large and diverse fleet at that time. 3, 4 and 8 are NBL (DH), 6 Yorkshire Engine (DE) and 27 Hunslet (DM). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Banger Blue Posted June 20, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 20, 2018 Now that's a proper record of the box Beast! Took me a while to decyhper FAC though.... Andy G FAC ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 20, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 20, 2018 FAC ??? Fixed At Caution Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted June 20, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 20, 2018 Fixed At Caution Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 20, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 20, 2018 FAC ??? I don't think it's on this list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E3109 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Beast Many thanks for posting these. Never seen a revolving dummy as you posted above, well not on these shores, it would appear to follow continental practice in principle, especially regarding points indicators. Can I request photos from Reddish TMD if you have some? Cheers and thanks for posting your pics. Back in the day when we all had to use film, it wasn't particularly cheap so most of us didn't bother 'wasting' film on such details. Glad you did sir, and well done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 21, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 21, 2018 Beast Many thanks for posting these. Never seen a revolving dummy as you posted above, well not on these shores, it would appear to follow continental practice in principle, especially regarding points indicators. Can I request photos from Reddish TMD if you have some? Cheers and thanks for posting your pics. Back in the day when we all had to use film, it wasn't particularly cheap so most of us didn't bother 'wasting' film on such details. Glad you did sir, and well done. Thanks, Revolving discs were quite common in the early days of British railway signalling, a development of a point indicator, some companies continued with them and others dropped them and changed design - the LNWR adopted miniature arms for example. Reddish and the grounded Tommies will come in time, but it's a long way off I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post beast66606 Posted June 21, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2018 DAS000037Mickle Trafford08/08/1981(Saturday)47251 passes Mickle Trafford signal box on an express for the North Wales coast ? Bangor- Manchester Victoria ?DAS000037 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000039Mickle Trafford08/08/1981(Saturday)Mickle Trafford signal box, from the Helsby endDAS000039 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000040Mickle Trafford08/08/1981(Saturday)Mickle Trafford signal box, from the Chester endDAS000040 by Dave Skipsey, on FlickrDAS000038Mickle Trafford08/08/1981(Saturday)Tokenless block instrument to Mouldsworth Junction at Mickle Trafford signal boxDAS000038 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 21, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 21, 2018 DAS000041Ellesmere Port08/08/1981(Saturday)Ellesmere Port No.2 Down starter with Ellesmere Port No.4 inner distant, Tubular Steel, straight post, upper quadrantDAS000041 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr DAS000042Ellesmere Port08/08/1981(Saturday)Ellesmere Port No.2 Up Home 2, Lattice main stem and tubular steel doll, right hand bracket, upper quadrant. Redundant pivot for Ellesmere Port No.1 up distantDAS000042 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Pannier Tank Posted June 21, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 21, 2018 Mickle Trafford signal box reminds me of the long gone Flettons Siding Signal Box, Bletchley, just down the road from where I was born and bred. Excellent Photographs, many thanks for sharing, keep them coming! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 21, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) DAS000039 Mickle Trafford 08/08/1981(Saturday) Mickle Trafford signal box, from the Helsby end DAS000039 by Dave Skipsey, on Flickr Tidy looking box for the early 80s. Cheers, Mick Edited June 21, 2018 by newbryford 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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