pharrc20 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I always thought that the Hornby kit was a deviation tower D30 but modelled with suspension insulators like a D2 tower. And scaled down accordingly. Great to see the proper scaled models wow wish I could build them like that. Cheers Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pylon King Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 4 hours ago, pharrc20 said: I always thought that the Hornby kit was a deviation tower D30 but modelled with suspension insulators like a D2 tower. And scaled down accordingly. Great to see the proper scaled models wow wish I could build them like that. Cheers Paul Probably the reason behind this choice was for stability as the standard tension towers are rather slim . However the Hornby version does possess latticework based around the tension prototype. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pylon King Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 4 hours ago, pharrc20 said: I always thought that the Hornby kit was a deviation tower D30 but modelled with suspension insulators like a D2 tower. And scaled down accordingly. Great to see the proper scaled models wow wish I could build them like that. Cheers Paul Your Hornby adaptations show great observation/modelling skills, these could easily be utilised in recreating scale model versions .Using the engineers drawings as templates which are then brought up to scale I’ve found Plastruct/Evergreen Plastics work well . Starting with the front/back facings, girders are cut in groups of four sets for each side . Once completed the left/right sides are built up from the attached front/back facings. It takes time and rather a lot of fine tuning but building them really gives a structural insight to these towers. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pylon King Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 Approximately 45 feet in height this 33kV terminal/sealing end tower is probably nearly eighty years old. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS_LNER_SR_GWR_fan2004 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 9 hours ago, Pylon King said: Westwood/Margate power line. Cheers for that, that makes a lot more sense now. Now I might decide to make a 33kv terminal tower out of some Hornby bits (I’ll attach a photo of the one I want to model and a couple of others in the same area). Best regards, Matthew 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Pylon King said: Approximately 45 feet in height this 33kV terminal/sealing end tower is probably nearly eighty years old. Nice to see one with a 'ski' on it. Only seen these on 33KV pylons. Some have one, some have two, and some have none and all appear to be just made up of what is lying around. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 12 hours ago, Pylon King said: Your Hornby adaptations show great observation/modelling skills, these could easily be utilised in recreating scale model versions .Using the engineers drawings as templates which are then brought up to scale I’ve found Plastruct/Evergreen Plastics work well . Starting with the front/back facings, girders are cut in groups of four sets for each side . Once completed the left/right sides are built up from the attached front/back facings. It takes time and rather a lot of fine tuning but building them really gives a structural insight to these towers. Do you work starting with the square base section as shown glued to the four main legs then use smaller square section formers for want of a better description to keep the right shape as you go up the tower? I am used to using Plastruct and Evergreen when doing my quarry buildings for my kit bashed Walthers buildings for my Speedlow layout and other wagon projects. Are there any common sizes to use for the main legs the primary and secondary cross bracing? Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pylon King Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, pharrc20 said: Do you work starting with the square base section as shown glued to the four main legs then use smaller square section formers for want of a better description to keep the right shape as you go up the tower? I am used to using Plastruct and Evergreen when doing my quarry buildings for my kit bashed Walthers buildings for my Speedlow layout and other wagon projects. Are there any common sizes to use for the main legs the primary and secondary cross bracing? Cheers Paul I always start with a flat 2mm thick base , attach the corners , then the top horizontal and any other girders . This is placed over the template and Magic tape applied to keep the structure from moving . Once the front and back are completed the side base sections are added (4mm shorter in width to form the square . The process is then repeated left and right , at various stages it’s worth detaching the model from the template and place over your cutting mat to check and maintain the towers symmetry. Once I’m happy that section is completed then the “X” girders are welded together. Regarding girder sizes - for the PL1 towers each corner comprises of Evergreen 2mm girders with Plastruct 1.2mm girders attached inside to add stability. The majority of the tower girders are again made from Plastruct 1.2mm “L” beams. All the best, Paul. Edited June 22, 2019 by Pylon King 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pylon King Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) Another part of the 1:76 scale collection features these Oxford Diecast Power Grid utility vehicles which are used for running and maintaining British power lines and substations. The National Grid Transit van is due for release later this year. Edited June 22, 2019 by Pylon King 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 17 hours ago, Pylon King said: structural insight to these towers. In my picture: What is the solid black bit towards the top of the left hand tower? Is it a platform or some sort of shear panel? Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pylon King Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 38 minutes ago, RLWP said: In my picture: What is the solid black bit towards the top of the left hand tower? Is it a platform or some sort of shear panel? Richard Probably a platform to enable work & equipment storage when required. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 27 minutes ago, Pylon King said: Probably a platform to enable work & equipment storage when required. Thank you There do seem to be other platforms lower down, and this is a very tall tower! Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pylon King Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, RLWP said: Thank you There do seem to be other platforms lower down, and this is a very tall tower! Richard Possibly these were installed to use as work stations when repairs/upgrades are required. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
How about a Dictator Loco Class? Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 This is one of my 3d printed pylons. It comes pre built as one piece. This is a more basic version. I'll post more detailed versions and larger pylons later on. 7 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pylon King Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) Latest build based on the PL1 D30 tower in Westwood Kent. Edited January 27, 2020 by Pylon King 5 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 It's all this damn threads fault... Seen from the M69: https://www.google.com/maps/@52.5676874,-1.2740915,3a,37.4y,165.41h,98.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4DgbRoVlIy16DCfGSvTczg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 What's going on there then? There seems to be a 90 degree change in direction in that line https://www.google.com/maps/place/M69/@52.5654876,-1.2733805,166m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x487744c8bc77a86f:0xad0b424f9bae3be0!8m2!3d52.5265057!4d-1.3309517 Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 3 hours ago, RLWP said: It's all this damn threads fault... Seen from the M69: https://www.google.com/maps/@52.5676874,-1.2740915,3a,37.4y,165.41h,98.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4DgbRoVlIy16DCfGSvTczg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 What's going on there then? There seems to be a 90 degree change in direction in that line https://www.google.com/maps/place/M69/@52.5654876,-1.2733805,166m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x487744c8bc77a86f:0xad0b424f9bae3be0!8m2!3d52.5265057!4d-1.3309517 Richard Aha yes this is indeed a 90 degree turn but there is more to this arrangement. Originally in the mid 1950s the 275kV ZL code line was erected using then new L2 towers. In the 1960s another line was built using newer heavy duty L6 towers - these are the ones you see near the Great Central Railway line and they run from Ratcliffe Power station towards Leicester then head west towards Birmingham. At the point that the L2 and L6 lines would have crossed the two lines were altered to what you see today so that the L6 from Leicester is now joined to the southbound part of the L2 ZL line. Hence the northbound part of ZL is now joined to L6 heading towards B'ham. You can see this part on north side of motorway if not treed up now. Cheers Paul 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Looks like I need to find an OS map Thanks Paul Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pylon King Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 6 hours ago, RLWP said: Looks like I need to find an OS map Thanks Paul Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 That's the blighter See what this thread has done - now I look out for power lines as I drive around! Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 16 hours ago, pharrc20 said: the L6 from Leicester is now joined to the southbound part of the L2 ZL line. Hence the northbound part of ZL is now joined to L6 heading towards B'ham. You can see this part on north side of motorway if not treed up now. Cheers Paul There is a nice view of this run from the Ashby Canal between Hinckley and Burton Hastings. Hopefully it's visible in these photos but how unusual us the arrangement where the lower voltage line splits into two and goes under the higher one...? I wasn't really paying alot of attention at the time, but might take the kids for a Picnic out there in the summer if it is a significant arrangement. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, 298 said: There is a nice view of this run from the Ashby Canal between Hinckley and Burton Hastings. Hopefully it's visible in these photos but how unusual us the arrangement where the lower voltage line splits into two and goes under the higher one...? I wasn't really paying alot of attention at the time, but might take the kids for a Picnic out there in the summer if it is a significant arrangement. It is fairly common with 132kV or lower voltage lines diving under 275kV or above lines. There are a few places where 275s dive under 400s. Sometimes they just chop the lines around to suit. Cheers Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Alvechurch hire boat Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Another one. Seen today at Coleshill: There seems to be a new line going in Richard 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 18 hours ago, RLWP said: Another one. Seen today at Coleshill: There seems to be a new line going in Richard Looks like an L8 D10/30.. is it near any other lines? Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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