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8 hours ago, LMS_LNER_SR_GWR_fan2004 said:

 

Yes it does indeed, I thought the same thing. It's the JL EVE variant of the L6 is the one you mean.

 

(Edit): Just found out why they are so similar, the L13 is designed by Babcocks who are JL EVE.  

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Ah thought so I was thinking JL Eve too and makes sense really. I think the standard D tower from JL Eve was about the 161 ft mark. The tower cross-bracing looks similar to that they have added to the L2 towers to improve the base strength but I've only seen it applied to a few lines so far.

Cheers Paul

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9 hours ago, pharrc20 said:

Ah thought so I was thinking JL Eve too and makes sense really. I think the standard D tower from JL Eve was about the 161 ft mark. The tower cross-bracing looks similar to that they have added to the L2 towers to improve the base strength but I've only seen it applied to a few lines so far.

Cheers Paul

 

I wasn't aware that they had changed the cross bracing, I will keep a look out just in case.

 

Best regards Matthew

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7 hours ago, LMS_LNER_SR_GWR_fan2004 said:

"Pylons on a model railway? Who cares whether they are 65cm tall or not, it just adds realism and after all, thats what a layout these days is meant to capture."

I love the sentence at the bottom of your posts. Those are my thoughts exactly. I think it looks amazing to have them!

 

Has anyone got any good pictures of the yellow hazard signs on modern pylons btw please?

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31 minutes ago, How about a Dictator Loco Class? said:

 

 

Has anyone got any good pictures of the yellow hazard signs on modern pylons btw please?

If you are looking at putting them on your amazing L2 I believe Sankey Scenics do the yellow hazard signs. If not I will browse through my pics to see if I have any.

 

Best regards, Matthew

 

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6 hours ago, How about a Dictator Loco Class? said:

I love the sentence at the bottom of your posts. Those are my thoughts exactly. I think it looks amazing to have them!

 

Has anyone got any good pictures of the yellow hazard signs on modern pylons btw please?

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Well being as I did the BICC D60 and D90 I’d better complete the set with a D30/D10 and a D. I really ought to get these and the other 1000 images I have sorted and then put somewhere lol. The D tower is 4YM 49 and the D30 is 4YM 48. 

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20 minutes ago, L2's are great! said:

It looks like a D30, but has squared off arms unlike the normal one, so was wondering if it was rare as I haven't seen many of them before

 

25 minutes ago, L2's are great! said:

Anyone know the name for this L2 tower?

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By the looks of it it’s an L2 D40EC. Another one exists at Indian Queens substation in Cornwall. Which I will attach photos of. An L6 version does exist too however I only know of 2 in existence currently. The first photo is the L6 version.

 

HTH,

 

Matthew

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39 minutes ago, L2's are great! said:

Ahh thank you!! I've only seen them near substations/end of the line. There is another example where they split the line to low height towers near Biggin Hill Airport.

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No problem. And yeah that’s where they are most common around substations etc. I wasn’t aware of the example at Biggin Hill. Will have a look  at that line later.

 

best regards, Matthew 

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9 hours ago, L2's are great! said:

Thanks for the extra info! The line runs between Biggin Hill and just south of Ebbsfleet (quite pylon heavy with L2's and L6's) and includes some unusual set ups.

 

Best regards, Felix

Hi Felix,

 

Yeah I know the area you mean. It is quite pylon heavy and a fair few have disappeared over the years mainly because of HS1. There’s an abandoned substation by the A2 where all the PL1 lines just stop dead and go nowhere. It does have an untidy look but certainly is interesting.

 

best regards, Matthew 

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7 hours ago, LMS_LNER_SR_GWR_fan2004 said:

Hi Felix,

 

Yeah I know the area you mean. It is quite pylon heavy and a fair few have disappeared over the years mainly because of HS1. There’s an abandoned substation by the A2 where all the PL1 lines just stop dead and go nowhere. It does have an untidy look but certainly is interesting.

 

best regards, Matthew 

Hello Matthew,

 

I never knew about those PL1s. Will check it out soon, hopefully the high speed rail projects don't take more away. A couple of weeks ago I went to Tilbury where 3 different L2 lines meet and terminate with single arm pylons and low height ones and a few out of place L6's. It can be quite hard to work out where each line ends. 

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33 minutes ago, L2's are great! said:

Something that has always puzzled me is the voltage carried by L2 lines. Is it 275kv or 400kv?? I know L6 carries 400kv and L3 carries 275kv but I always thought that L2 couldn't carry 400,000 volts

L2s do both 400kv and 275kv. L66s were the first breed of 400kv, that then was replaced by L2s, then L6s came about and the L8 was the replacement for the L2. Finally we get to the L12 type which is really a replacement for the L8s as it can only carry twin conductors normally. L13s and the T-pylon succeed the L6 which has been the main construction type for 400kv towers for ages. There are 5 designs of L6, Balfour Beatty, BICC, Blaw Knox and JL EVE. The fifth is national grids own design, the L6M which is similar to the BICC version but with subtle differences. As of yet no L13s have been built and only a string of T-pylons exist at the national grids Eakring centre. 

 

Hope this helps,

 

Matthew

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16 minutes ago, LMS_LNER_SR_GWR_fan2004 said:

L2s do both 400kv and 275kv. L66s were the first breed of 400kv, that then was replaced by L2s, then L6s came about and the L8 was the replacement for the L2. Finally we get to the L12 type which is really a replacement for the L8s as it can only carry twin conductors normally. L13s and the T-pylon succeed the L6 which has been the main construction type for 400kv towers for ages. There are 5 designs of L6, Balfour Beatty, BICC, Blaw Knox and JL EVE. The fifth is national grids own design, the L6M which is similar to the BICC version but with subtle differences. As of yet no L13s have been built and only a string of T-pylons exist at the national grids Eakring centre. 

 

Hope this helps,

 

Matthew

Ahh, that makes sense, thank you. I only knew that L8 replaced L2 and L12 replaced L6. Interestingly I saw a diagram of the four L6 types but haven't found it recently so that'll help me see which type is which. I only thought L6 carried 400kv because of the quad conductors. I swear there are only two L66 lines left

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16 minutes ago, L2's are great! said:

Ahh, that makes sense, thank you. I only knew that L8 replaced L2 and L12 replaced L6. Interestingly I saw a diagram of the four L6 types but haven't found it recently so that'll help me see which type is which. I only thought L6 carried 400kv because of the quad conductors. I swear there are only two L66 lines left

Yes there are. I believe there’s a few more as a guest on an L2/L3 line but I can’t remember where. I have some of the official drawings of the L6M and the Balfour Beatty L6. I do have something which was made by someone on the Pylons Proboards forum who did a comparison sheet between the 4 L6s and I’ll attach them too.

 

Best regards, Matthew

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I didn't imagine my first post on the forum would be about pylons...but there you go! I find these aspects of our landscapes fascinating (both visually and historically/socially) and will be an important part of my layout. 

 

Off topic, but I also want to somehow get some more Brutalist architecture in to my layout in the form of military bunkers and that kind of thing.

 

I think i'll discern just as much (if not more!) enjoyment out of pylons and other such structures as I will out of the trains themselves :)

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3 minutes ago, LMS_LNER_SR_GWR_fan2004 said:

Yes there are. I believe there’s a few more as a guest on an L2/L3 line but I can’t remember where. I have some of the official drawings of the L6M and the Balfour Beatty L6. I do have something which was made by someone on the Pylons Proboards forum who did a comparison sheet between the 4 L6s and I’ll attach them too.

 

Best regards, Matthew

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That's brilliant!! Thanks a lot. Sorry if I have a lot of questions, its probably because i've had 12 years of questions and never found a place with other people who share the same interest!!

 

Kind regards, Felix

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2 minutes ago, L2's are great! said:

Am I correct in saying that L3 came after L2?? I know L2 was the 1950s and L6 the 1960s and so on but never had any confirmed info on the L3's

I believe L2s and L3s came at the around the same time, I might be wrong on that one as I like L6s more. 

 

Best regards, Matthew

 

 

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