sub39h Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Hi all, I model the late 80s, no specific region but most interested in ECML traffic in Yorkshire and WCML traffic in the West Midlands. I have gotten hold of one of Bachmann's 37 041s in BR Blue. I have seen a video of a BR Blue Class 37/0 on the ECML in the late 80s but didn't catch the number. Which blue 37s were still around in the late 80s please? And when did the 37s lose their buffer beam cowlings? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I would say most 37s lost their cowlings in early 80s, I suspect as part of a heavy overhaul, but there were some that retained much longer. Certainly my Scottish 37s book shows no late 80s blue 37s with cowlings, but a few at start of decade. 37116 seemed to keep her cowlings much longer than most, at least into early 90s and I'm sure I've seen some of her in more modern liveries still retaining cowlings. There were still quite a few banger blue 37s around in late 80s but not many with cowlings by that stage. M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 37083 with bufferbeam cowls at Newcastle, stated as being on 29-5-86 (Modern Locomotives Illustrated 171 page 25) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david ellis Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 37116 was reported as being the last loco with buffer beam cowlings & as far as I remember was modified in 1996 https://www.flickr.com/photos/brianews/5812266243/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/queenfanjohn/6695928155/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/4928891340/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/neil_harvey_railway_photos/8305585026/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/darrenreay/12442660404/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/roddymacphee/9371640870/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/37190-dalzell/10024740726/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/37190-dalzell/13871220585 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 21, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 21, 2018 I don't know which a##ehole sanctioned it having 37/5 nose mods so late but a sad waste Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 I don't know which a##ehole sanctioned it having 37/5 nose mods so late but a sad waste Agreed, it would have been easy to put it back in green as built. It is a big job to rebuild the nose ends now, to the best of my knowledge there are no spare sets of nose doors kicking around.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) I don't know which a##ehole sanctioned it having 37/5 nose mods so late but a sad wasteUh it was a working loco not a museum piece, the cowls were cut away to make it easier for the shunters and groundstaff to go inbetween to couple and uncouple which is more important than what some train spotter thinks it looks like. And I say that as a train spotter myself. Edited July 22, 2018 by royaloak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Agreed, it would have been easy to put it back in green as built. It is a big job to rebuild the nose ends now, to the best of my knowledge there are no spare sets of nose doors kicking around..A couple of bits of sheet steel and some hinges, not that difficult in the grand scheme of things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2018 The cowling doesn't make much difference when getting in between. Ploughs are much worse especially if two locos have them. It had survived so long with cowling and 37 were been withdrawn in 96 I think it was a strange decision Doors are alloy bye the way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 The cowling doesn't make much difference when getting in between. Ploughs are much worse especially if two locos have them. It had survived so long with cowling and 37 were been withdrawn in 96 I think it was a strange decision Doors are alloy bye the way Do the replacements have to be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Here's a couple in August 1989. 37046 and 37042 at Newport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2018 Do the replacements have to be? If you want them to looks right then it needs to be alloy as they are quite a complex shape for sheet metal. Fibreglass could be replacement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWaring Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 When did the 37/0 start getting cut away bufferbeam cowlings? Ie when did the first one get cut? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, ChrisWaring said: When did the 37/0 start getting cut away bufferbeam cowlings? Ie when did the first one get cut? Circa 1979, seemed to go hand in hand with plating of the headcode boxes but there are examples of locos having just the skirts removed but glass headcode left in place or the headcode box plated but cowling still in place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieGuyRob Posted Friday at 22:37 Share Posted Friday at 22:37 (edited) Plenty of videos on youtube at various locations around the country. Each of these Youtubers have hours of footage from all around the country. Admittingly it would mean watching all of them, but, there maybe something in there that will help with your original question. I watched most of them at work, I got paid too watch these! the names of the youtubers are:- spompeytransportvideo electrarailfilms soi buakkhao old oak trains lineside video productions. Edited Friday at 22:47 by PieGuyRob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted Tuesday at 12:37 RMweb Premium Share Posted Tuesday at 12:37 @jbg06003has some cracking 1980s videos on YouTube (though possibly getting more into Large Logo era for the 37s). His channel is here: https://youtube.com/@jbg06003?si=kHhlEGWLdskqswQ_ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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