Les1952 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Roy L S said: Hoping to see livery samples at Warley too. This loco has been a while coming but the EP looks superb and if the C Class is anything to go by it should be an absolute stunner. I do still have some nagging reservations about haulage, but as my C Class has now managed to move seven coaches around my layout with only slight slipping once the chemical blacking had worn away, I am more optimistic than I was and hopefully it will be comfortably able to handle the 25 wagon max train length I need it to. Roy I still wonder how my 2MT is the strongest Farish steamer I have.... Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted November 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2019 Painted samples are on show at Warley. It’s difficult to go wrong with black, but they were nicely executed and up to the usual standard. 7-8 months was the estimate for arrival. Tricky to get photos this year for all the lights reflecting off the glass: Tom 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted November 24, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2019 Seeing that V2 in the background does make me wish for this to be re-instated in the Farish range! Nice pics Tom---much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 65179 Posted November 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2019 For completeness, the best I could do photographing the 48773 sample on its spinning display: Simon 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted November 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2019 Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pufferazzi Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 What a beaut.......now how about a Crab.....or a revamped 'Black Five' 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul80 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 A nice new 9F next please 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted November 25, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 25, 2019 11 hours ago, Paul80 said: A nice new 9F next please A Crab would be for me in view of a good 9F being available * from Dapol. *Hopefully another run of these will be forthcoming soon. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy L S Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 After seeing the EP of the new Bachmann 00 V2, I would rather like that to go through the shrink ray. Several of those to modern standards, Next 18 and sound ready would be very welcome... Roy 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pufferazzi Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Yes we desperately need a reworked 9F ....Farish have a few of the parts needed in their BR standard class 5MT....various tender options, the cab sides and the pony truck from the Standard 4 mogul and cylinders and valve gear I think...but will they invest ? ......Could the old Dapol model be converted to DCC with sound easily.....I think not.....9Fs could be seen anywhere but rarely north of the border...they were inter regional...They were allocated to the old Midland, North Western, Great Central and Eastern and to a lesser amount to the Western. Several were allocated to the Somerset and Dorset and thus ended in Southern Territory and 9F were also seen on the Fawley oil trains. So there we have it, a handsome prototype that was seen on express trains as well as freight, and over a large geographical area.....they also lasted right through the transition period till the end of steam so fit in comfortably with modellers who like diseasels ...so its a no brainer! The only other loco with such diversity were of course the Britannias....they regularly worked over the border with the Northern Irishman. Heavy freight locos are of course a winner in model manufacturing terms because then you need to buy a long string of freight wagons to go with. What we need is a new modern spec model and it would also be nice to have firebox flicker in our scale too. it just adds that bit extra. Lets get bleating now.....altogether now! .....I attach a picture I took in February 1967 .....we also want smoke units that work like this! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted November 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 25, 2019 We're wandering off topic slightly here, but Bachmann were planning a 9F, announced at the same time as the Ivatt if I remember correctly, but cancelled it when Dapol announced their model. I've raised the prospect of it being revived with them a couple of times and it was never a straight out "No", but I suspect it's highly unlikely in the current climate. 59 minutes ago, Pufferazzi said: ......Could the old Dapol model be converted to DCC with sound easily.....I think not..... It's not easy, but it can be done: Tramfabriek coreless motor replacing the original Dapol unit (drops straight in using the provided cradle) Zimo sound chip from You Choos, SACC16 stay alive module and a 9mm speaker all contained within the tender, which will eventually be replaced with a BR1F body when I get around to designing & printing it! I still need to correct some slightly out quartering, but these modifications have turned it from a yard queen to a usable engine. Tom. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pufferazzi Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Back to 8Fs...... Just found another pic taken back in early 1967 at Buxton yards with two 8Fs in the shot. I noticed that there was a lamp on the the smoke boxof the departing train and then discovered that the preserved loco 48151 also has the same lamp bracket.....was this rare or common with the 8Fs? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy L S Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Pufferazzi said: Back to 8Fs...... Just found another pic taken back in early 1967 at Buxton yards with two 8Fs in the shot. I noticed that there was a lamp on the the smoke boxof the departing train and then discovered that the preserved loco 48151 also has the same lamp bracket.....was this rare or common with the 8Fs? I suspect the siting of the lamp bracket there was for those locos that were used "under wires" for safety. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 65179 Posted November 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) It was common after the LMR electrification for some Stanier locos (certainly Black 5s, 8Fs and several Jubilees) likely to be working under the wires. Some (all?) of the first load of Bachfar Black 5s came with this fitting regardless of whether it was appropriate. Simon Edited November 25, 2019 by 65179 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pufferazzi Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Well done, That seems to make a lot of sense.....I suppose that till the early 1960s 8Fs wouldn't go under any wires....The Woodhead line being run by the Eastern would have had GCR 04s....electrification of the North Western would change that ....all the Farish locos are thus correct not to feature these lamp brackets but those guys are pretty hot on their research.....just found another 8F shot...the loco was unidentified as I was paying more attention in my picture composition and in those days I took little interest in the numbers....this 8F also has smokebox lamp brackets....you can see it from quite a long way off....I suppose all locos would have been modified thus. I hope to build this scene as a 2mm model diorama....painting the back-scene will be fun! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pufferazzi Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Another shot, Loco 48212 at Newton Heath depot with sunlight ( a rare phenomina here in the UK ! ) The words COLK have been stencilled where the shed plate should have been.. I've just checked through a number of 1967 images and all 8Fs, 5MTs, Brits and 9Fs have had their lamp brakets fixed to the smokebox....you learn something every day ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 65179 Posted November 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 25, 2019 COLK will be short for Colwick. If this is a Feb 1967 shot the loco will just have been reallocated to Aintree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted November 26, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2019 Pity the top brackets had to be lowered. I think it spoiled the look of the loco fronts. I've opted for the earlier version for this precise reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pufferazzi Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Agreed..... but modellers' license allows for most things.....I presume that practice of lowering brackets started in 1966 when the electrification of the North Western to Euston was completed....must look at my Willesden Junction MPD loco pictures....Cricklewood also still had steam then....it all seemed like yesterday....now no EE Type 4s, Peaks or AL6s in sight. I wonder when or if an 8F will return to this city......they are very handsome considering they were ostensibly a freight loco. This new Farish model certainly captures their gravitas.... what can we look forward to next? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted November 27, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2019 The lamp brackets must have been moved prior to 1966 as the WCML electrification was switched on in stages, culminating in the full service to Manchester and Liverpool on 18 April 1966. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pufferazzi Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Devil's Advocate.... For locos working under the wires between 1960 and 1968 model manufacturers should provide an optional smokebox for the post electricification period and it would then be very easy to install a working lamp....!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted November 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2019 Lowering lamp brackets started in 1963 IIRC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy L S Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 41 minutes ago, Pufferazzi said: Devil's Advocate.... For locos working under the wires between 1960 and 1968 model manufacturers should provide an optional smokebox for the post electricification period and it would then be very easy to install a working lamp....!!!! Do you mean pre-electrification? Post electrification I would visualise as post apocalyptic wooden carts! I think you will find that Bachmann try to create models with details that represents a specific loco at a certain time so it would seem unlikely they would want to undo such efforts with generic parts. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted November 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Pufferazzi said: it would then be very easy to install a working lamp....!!!! Why bother? You could hardly see the flame in the dark, let alone in daylight. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class8mikado Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Is it Tender Drive ( 8f) ? wheels look too big, though a black tyre rim will help this.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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