RMweb Gold 55020 Posted February 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2021 7 hours ago, AY Mod said: In answer to your question it's not for people to bang on relentlessly on minor points; people will either agree with you or disagree but to keep repeating yourself just annoys people (me included). Hopefully that's clear enough for you. To amplify somewhat on Andy's comment. There are other enthusiast sites out there where mention of RMWeb will result in lots of comments similar to "that's where they do nothing but complain", or "everything is so negative". It is a shame that a few here think they have a right to moan on and on, as it DOES damage the reputation of what is a fantastic resource. This is one of the few sites I visit every day. I'm not saying that feedback doesn't have its place, of course it does. It's more a case of self moderation seems to be lacking from a minority! Apologies for the negative post 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Rail Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 59 minutes ago, 55020 said: To amplify somewhat on Andy's comment. There are other enthusiast sites out there where mention of RMWeb will result in lots of comments similar to "that's where they do nothing but complain", or "everything is so negative". It is a shame that a few here think they have a right to moan on and on, as it DOES damage the reputation of what is a fantastic resource. This is one of the few sites I visit every day. I'm not saying that feedback doesn't have its place, of course it does. It's more a case of self moderation seems to be lacking from a minority! Apologies for the negative post Good post. RMWeb is a benchmark site. Maybe filter this out to a new manufacturing model unprototypical moaning thread to use as a disclaimer for RMWeb damage limitation? Suitably moderated of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Well I've just upped my pre order to 5, pretty much covering all the FYE era upto about 1982. Having seen those close ups of the TMC exclusive (there's a picture of 102 in a Bradford Barton) I can't now live with the Bachy underframe! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 3 hours ago, ColinK said: I’ve no interest in your (or anyone’s) arguing. It would be far better if you did it somewhere else. 3 hours ago, ColinK said: I’ve no interest in your (or anyone’s) arguing. It would be far better if you did it somewhere else. Sense of humour? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, The Ghost of IKB said: Sense of humour? It went elsewhere Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Roy Langridge said: It went elsewhere Roy I ordered a sense of humour when it was first announced in 2012. indeed I thought Blue was mildly entertaining, as was the See-red liveried version. unfortunately since then the price doubled, the humour tone was too pale and after the EP it was changed to sarcasm, so I canceled and bought a Misery instead.. its plain grey, moves slow, costs nowt and always discounted, nothing to fall off or be disappointed about. It comes in a half filled box with cracked sellophane... ive got lots of Misery around me now. Edited February 17, 2021 by adb968008 1 3 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, adb968008 said: It comes in a half filled box with cracked sellophane... I think youll find the box is actually half empty..... 1 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeighties Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 20 hours ago, Global said: I probably should call it a day now as it wasn’t my intention to fill half a thread this morning! Best suggestion so far. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 17 hours ago, 55020 said: To amplify somewhat on Andy's comment. There are other enthusiast sites out there where mention of RMWeb will result in lots of comments similar to "that's where they do nothing but complain", or "everything is so negative". It is a shame that a few here think they have a right to moan on and on, as it DOES damage the reputation of what is a fantastic resource. This is one of the few sites I visit every day. I'm not saying that feedback doesn't have its place, of course it does. It's more a case of self moderation seems to be lacking from a minority! Apologies for the negative post Thats the problem with written word, it’s hard to judge the real feelings behind it . As I type this am I sad, happy, angry - there’s no way to tell ( actually I’m ecstatic as it’s nearly lunchtime ). Again , “ moaning “ is subjective . A lot of the moaning on here is useful criticism that enables me to make decisions . I see both sides of an argument and can form a conclusion - that’s vital to me. There has been a rise in vitriol online in general - I blame the frustrations of lockdowns/ furlough / redundancy - people like me have more time to write on forums - more chance to disagree etc. if I want a dose of sugar I can go on various YouTube pages and watch someone unbox their latest model and run it in circles on the carpet. 1 6 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 55020 Posted February 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2021 10 hours ago, rob D2 said: Thats the problem with written word, it’s hard to judge the real feelings behind it . As I type this am I sad, happy, angry - there’s no way to tell ( actually I’m ecstatic as it’s nearly lunchtime ). Rob, you've summed up contemporary society in two sentences. RESPECT! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 With the all new Heljan class 25s due very soon, I was lucky enough to be able to sit down and interview Ben Jones about them as well as some of their other forthcoming models. 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 When the ETHELs were working, did their engines idle at the same speed as a normal Class 25 or did they idle faster to continuously generate ETH power? I'm thinking of for DCC sound whether it would be a 'normal' Class 25 chip or something specific would be more accurate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, GordonC said: When the ETHELs were working, did their engines idle at the same speed as a normal Class 25 or did they idle faster to continuously generate ETH power? Can't answer your question but there is film of D7536 idling at Temple Mills Hump here. Start at about 10:10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 On 19/02/2021 at 00:06, Jenny Emily said: With the all new Heljan class 25s due very soon, I was lucky enough to be able to sit down and interview Ben Jones about them as well as some of their other forthcoming models. No mention of the 86? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 6 hours ago, GordonC said: When the ETHELs were working, did their engines idle at the same speed as a normal Class 25 or did they idle faster to continuously generate ETH power? I'm thinking of for DCC sound whether it would be a 'normal' Class 25 chip or something specific would be more accurate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulzer71 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, GordonC said: When the ETHELs were working, did their engines idle at the same speed as a normal Class 25 or did they idle faster to continuously generate ETH power? I'm thinking of for DCC sound whether it would be a 'normal' Class 25 chip or something specific would be more accurate The Legomanbiffo 25 sound file has an 'ETHEL' mode Edited February 22, 2021 by sulzer71 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted February 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2021 On 21/02/2021 at 13:59, GordonC said: When the ETHELs were working, did their engines idle at the same speed as a normal Class 25 or did they idle faster to continuously generate ETH power? I'm thinking of for DCC sound whether it would be a 'normal' Class 25 chip or something specific would be more accurate Engine only idle was 325 rpm, with heat on engine speed increased to 640rpm. Full engine speed on a normal 25 was 750 rpm, so a pretty noticeable increase for an ETHEL on heat..... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_sterling Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, stovepipe said: Engine only idle was 325 rpm, with heat on engine speed increased to 640rpm. Full engine speed on a normal 25 was 750 rpm, so a pretty noticeable increase for an ETHEL on heat..... A remarkably steady engine then, I suspect these days a similar loco engine would be turning at twice that speed, admittedly a lot of mass spinning around in a 6LDA. That being said, most of my stationary engines are rated in the 5-600 rpm range too. Paul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
61661 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 On 21/02/2021 at 15:10, The Ghost of IKB said: No mention of the 86? Jenny asked for the interview to be primarily about the Class 25, so that's what we did. AL6s are on their way though - more info on arrival dates as soon as they are confirmed. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2021 D7647 for us... to become 7600, one of the last GSYP survivors. Looking at photos all the green Heljan models have the early silencer arrangement which we will need to change . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Received an e-mail from Hattons today reporting that the 25/3s 'are due in stock within the next fortnight' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PJ10 Posted February 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2021 Rails have posted information from Heljan saying that the 25s are being shipped from Denmark to UK retailers this week. Interestingly it's only the locos, the ETHELs are expected in "a few weeks". PJ10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, PJ10 said: the ETHELs are expected in "a few weeks". That's because they have to be towed. 1 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 5 hours ago, 61661 said: Jenny asked for the interview to be primarily about the Class 25, so that's what we did. AL6s are on their way though - more info on arrival dates as soon as they are confirmed. Well done then, slipping in a mention of the O2! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRIAN T Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Phil Bullock said: D7647 for us... to become 7600, one of the last GSYP survivors. Looking at photos all the green Heljan models have the early silencer arrangement which we will need to change . For you Phil may 1971 Reddish 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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