Warren Branch

[chuffinghell]

6 minutes ago, Stubby47 said:

 

I'd have thought the ground around the engine shed would be compacted enough to not need a barrow crossing - unless you specifically have a route the barrows need to follow to get somewhere.

 

I thought maybe it would be useful when emptying the ash pit using a shovel and a wheel barrow giving access to either side

 

I also thought it looked quite good

 

I really don’t know, I should have chosen building airfix planes as a hobby, I’m not cut out for model railways 

Edited May 31, 2019 by chuffinghell

[chuffinghell]

I’m a bit concerned about the material I’ve chosen to use to extend the goods area, it’s a tad on the floppy side 

 

Not sure if an extra 80mm is too much though, looked okay on the drawing 

Edited May 31, 2019 by chuffinghell

[chuffinghell]

I’ve reduced the template by 25mm, why 25mm? because that’s the width of the masking tape I’ve got left 

 

 

I think I prefer having the wider area

Edited June 1, 2019 by chuffinghell
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[AlfaZagato]

2 hours ago, chuffinghell said:

I really don’t know, I should have chosen building airfix planes as a hobby, I’m not cut out for model railways 

You would think that.    You really would.

[chuffinghell]

Made a start at enlarging the goods area

 

As plans have changed/evolved the original cut out needed to be filled in

 

Fortunately I kept the off-cut  

 

Re-shaped and bevelled the edges (to form a fillet for the filler)

 

Filled and sanded (5 minute polyfilla is great for speeding things up)

 

Goods area now extended by 80mm

 

Just need to sand the filler flush and smooth out the rough jigsawed edge and feather it into the existing boards

 

”Warren, sponsored by Polycell” 

 

 

Edited June 1, 2019 by chuffinghell

[chuffinghell]

The next piece of the puzzle is to marry the layout to the fiddle-yard traverser

 

 

 

As a wise man once said

[chuffinghell]

Not a bad days work

[chuffinghell]

Maybe should have checked this first but it looks like I got my measurements right

[chuffinghell]

I wasn’t going to do anything on the layout today but I couldn’t help myself

 

Now that’s a weird looking curve 

 

It’s good job 90% of it will be hidden

[St Enodoc]

3 minutes ago, chuffinghell said:

I wasn’t going to do anything on the layout today but I couldn’t help myself

 

Now that’s a weird looking curve 

 

It’s good job 90% of it will be hidden

You'll be able to get at it though, won't you?

[chuffinghell]

2 hours ago, St Enodoc said:

You'll be able to get at it though, won't you?

 

Yeah, it should be okay

 

I’ve tested the closest coupling coaches and they are fine (just about)

 

I’m going to leave the tunnel top open,  just in case of derailment. The boards are quite high so the landscape is hopefully going to be high enough to disguise the fact it’s open. Failing that I’ll make the top of the tunnel landscape removable

 

When I said “hidden” maybe I should have said out of sight from the viewing area

 

Chris

 

 

Edited June 2, 2019 by chuffinghell

[chuffinghell]

Having set it out and run my Hornby Colletts through into the platform I’m not happy with the articulation of the coaches where there is effectively a double bend

 

In my opinion it looks to$$

 

So I’m replacing the RH point with a  LH point and the train will exit the tunnel mouth on the straight line thereby eliminating the ‘S’ bend tossness

 

Its not a major problem but just goes to show you can’t rely on drawing alone

 

Thinking about it, the only reason for the way it was originally laid out was to make way for a level crossing......which isn’t there any more

 

Still works out okay though

 

 

Edited June 2, 2019 by chuffinghell
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[chuffinghell]

Is it normal for track plans to change once track is physically placed on the board.....or is this just bad planning?

 

Now it’s in place I have found I have enough room for an extra siding, one for the brake van drop off/pick up and another for a cattle dock

 

I don’t have a spare LH point, hence the RH point being upside down just for messing about purposes

 

Please excuse the makeshift tunnel mouth and platform

Edited June 2, 2019 by chuffinghell
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[Stubby47]

No, don't do it...

 

Less is more, more often than not, and having space around the tracks is a bonus.

 

Especially if the tunnel / overbridge is to look natural and not too contrived - you'll need some space for a cutting.

[danstercivicman]

7 minutes ago, Stubby47 said:

No, don't do it...

 

Less is more, more often than not, and having space around the tracks is a bonus.

 

Especially if the tunnel / overbridge is to look natural and not too contrived - you'll need some space for a cutting.

 

Agree avoid the extra siding less is more 

[chuffinghell]

I agree less is more, just a moment of madness

 

I just seem to be constantly second guessing myself at the moment

 

Thanks for keeping me on the right track guys

Edited June 2, 2019 by chuffinghell

[sigtech]

Hello Chuffers, - fraid I agree with Dan and Stubby, the extra siding is overkill , you will need an area of rising ground - a sort of cutting, approaching the tunnel mouth, with maybe a retaining wall along the boundary with the goods yard, and for that you need some space there to keep the angle believable. Nice to be able to run round a train in the platform, without loco dissappearing into the tunnel each time too I reckon.  I had a similar problem on my layout 'Sproston '(see pics to understand perhaps,  what I am trying to say..) i have a blog on here about my layout - but people don't seem to read the blogs anymore!

Good Layout though...watching with interest.

Regards

SIGTECH.

(Steve).

[chuffinghell]

1 hour ago, sigtech said:

Hello Chuffers, - fraid I agree with Dan and Stubby, the extra siding is overkill , you will need an area of rising ground - a sort of cutting, approaching the tunnel mouth, with maybe a retaining wall along the boundary with the goods yard, and for that you need some space there to keep the angle believable. Nice to be able to run round a train in the platform, without loco dissappearing into the tunnel each time too I reckon.  I had a similar problem on my layout 'Sproston '(see pics to understand perhaps,  what I am trying to say..) i have a blog on here about my layout - but people don't seem to read the blogs anymore!

Good Layout though...watching with interest.

Regards

SIGTECH.

(Steve).

 

Thanks Steve, very useful

 

Chris

[Martin S-C]

17 hours ago, chuffinghell said:

Is it normal for track plans to change once track is physically placed on the board... ?

 

 

[chuffinghell]

17 hours ago, sigtech said:

Nice to be able to run round a train in the platform, without loco dissappearing into the tunnel each time too I reckon.

 

I agree, had I stuck with the original plan the loco would have done just that. Fortunately my constant faffing around with the plans has allowed me to avoid this

[chuffinghell]

Thinking of something like this in front of the goods shed with a yard crane on it

[drduncan]

On 30/05/2019 at 09:42, chuffinghell said:

 

 

What about a cattle dock instead or a combined cattle dock and end loading dock

 

Would that work?

 

 

Perfect excuse to get a couple of cattle wagons and MOGO wagons

 

 

New to the thread but very impressive work.

Sone hopefully helpful suggestions:

 

Yes the cattle dock works but if you build the ground level up at the rear you won’t need the ramp for access and you can have two pens in the space you currently have one.

 

Turn the goods shed through 180 degrees so that the loading area faces the yard entrance. This will allow the canal siding to be lengthened to be the mileage siding and shorten the siding between the goods shed and cattle dock accordingly.

 

DrDuncan

[south_tyne]

Agree with the less is more approach as a general rule for any layout plan....... 

 

However, there is nothing wrong with the trackplan evolving as you go on. There is absolutely no substitute for 1:1 planning; often we only see if things actually work in this manner, rather than simply on paper. I think it is good to take your time and keep going back to look at the track arrangement with a fresh pair of eyes. Lay things out and mock the scheme up with some temporary structures too to consider sightlines and perspectives - you can then leave it for a few days to consider whether it works or whether you need to adjust things. Better to tinker and get things right at this early stage, rather than making changes further down the line, when it is far more difficult to do so.

 

Keep sharing and posting here too, the input of others is always useful. Ultimately mind, remember it is your trainset so the final decision should always come down to your personal preferences, needs and wishes! 

 

Keep up the good work, you're doing a cracking job 

 

David 

 

[chuffinghell]

On 05/06/2019 at 01:46, south_tyne said:

Agree with the less is more approach as a general rule for any layout plan....... 

 

I've often used this term when commenting on others plans so I'll put it down to a moment of madness

 

On 05/06/2019 at 01:46, south_tyne said:

Keep sharing and posting here too, the input of others is always useful

 

I intend too, had it not been for the help and guidance given by you guys I don't think I would be as far along as I am

 

On 05/06/2019 at 01:46, south_tyne said:

Ultimately mind, remember it is your trainset so the final decision should always come down to your personal preferences, needs and wishes

 

I seem to forget about that sometimes

 

On 05/06/2019 at 01:46, south_tyne said:

Keep up the good work, you're doing a cracking job

 

Thanks David, it's this kind of encouragement that keeps me going

[chuffinghell]

Not been able to to anything this week as I’ve been in Ireland with work

 

This afternoon I’ve attempted to weather the shed base and give it a look of concrete

 

not great I know but once the the sheds in place you’ll only be able to see it through the entrance 

I’m hoping to get more track laid towards the end of the week

 

Edited June 9, 2019 by chuffinghell