Warren Branch

[chuffinghell]

23 minutes ago, Rowsley17D said:

My first thoughts are that's a grand station building for a branch line unless there is the country seat of a toff nearby. How would only one gable end look?

 

I thought that too, I'm planning on doing something like this:-

 

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Edited December 11, 2019 by chuffinghell

[Rowsley17D]

That looks as though it will work very nicely, with a neat valanced canopy between.

[chuffinghell]

1 hour ago, Rowsley17D said:

That looks as though it will work very nicely, with a neat valanced canopy between.

 

I've had a play with my crayons:-

 

 

 

Edited December 11, 2019 by chuffinghell

[Harlequin]

If you swapped the two wings over then the arrangement of rooms inside would make more sense (to me if no one else!). Then on the ground floor the rooms from left to right would be:

Stationmaster's house (two storey wing)

Stationmaster's office (internal door to booking hall)

Booking hall

Waiting room(s) (single storey wing) (internal door to booking hall)

 

Ladies WC might be inside the building at the back but the Gents would be tacked on the outside.

 

I can see a stone plinth. The same finer stone would be used for qoins and lintels, of course. I wonder if some of the windows would be arched?

 

[chuffinghell]

39 minutes ago, Harlequin said:

If you swapped the two wings over then the arrangement of rooms inside would make more sense (to me if no one else!). Then on the ground floor the rooms from left to right would be:

Stationmaster's house (two storey wing)

Stationmaster's office (internal door to booking hall)

Booking hall

Waiting room(s) (single storey wing) (internal door to booking hall)

 

Ladies WC might be inside the building at the back but the Gents would be tacked on the outside.

 

I can see a stone plinth. The same finer stone would be used for qoins and lintels, of course. I wonder if some of the windows would be arched?

 

 

Thanks phil

 

I'll have a play

 

As far as the windows go the basis for the building is a kit bashing a Peco country station and a station house kit

 

Chris

 

 

 

Edited December 11, 2019 by chuffinghell

[chuffinghell]

19 minutes ago, Harlequin said:

If you swapped the two wings over then the arrangement of rooms inside would make more sense (to me if no one else!). Then on the ground floor the rooms from left to right would be:

Stationmaster's house (two storey wing)

Stationmaster's office (internal door to booking hall)

Booking hall

Waiting room(s) (single storey wing) (internal door to booking hall)

 

Ladies WC might be inside the building at the back but the Gents would be tacked on the outside.

 

I can see a stone plinth. The same finer stone would be used for qoins and lintels, of course. I wonder if some of the windows would be arched?

 

 

Is this what you mean?

 

 

Best I can do with Microsoft Paintbrush 

 

[Harlequin]

Sort of...

 

I don't think the stationmaster's house would usually have an exit onto the platform. On the other hand, the waiting room probably would have an exit onto the platform (although that could just use the exit through the booking hall).

 

Depending on when you imagine it was built, the Gents might be just a walled area enslosing urinals, with roof only over the few cubicles. That style would have a wooden screen obscuring the entrance rather than a door.

 

The stationmaster's office would probably have it's own window.

 

I should say that the booking hall is divided in two internally, of course: There's the public half with the big doors front and back, and the staff-only half from where tickets are sold through the small hatch to the public side. So the window to the left of the double doors is into the staff only part and the window to the right of the double doors is into the public part.

 

BTW: Sorry to say this but the detail on the gable looks very modern housing estate pastiche.. Urgh!

 

Edited December 11, 2019 by Harlequin

[chuffinghell]

1 minute ago, Harlequin said:

Sort of...

 

I don't think the stationmaster's house would usually have an exit onto the platform. On the other hand, the waiting room probably would have an exit onto the platform (although that could just use the exit through the booking hall).

 

That makes sense. I can put the Stationmaster's house entrance on the side or 'pretend' it's at the rear of the building.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Harlequin said:

BTW: Sorry to say this but the detail on the gable looks very modern housing estate pastiche.. Urgh!

 

 

I did it on purpose, I was just messing about, I knew you'd hate it 

[GWR57xx]

Looks good. 

I think most GWR branch line stations had smaller buildings, but you could have a look at stations on the Severn Valley Railway (e.g. Arley, Highley, Hampton Loade) for some inspiration. These were not branch line stations when built, but have a similar look to what you have in mind.

 

[Alister_G]

16 minutes ago, Harlequin said:

the waiting room probably would have an exit onto the platform (although that could just use the exit through the booking hall)

 

I would expect the main waiting room to have an internal entry door from the booking hall, and an external exit to the platform.

 

I would also expect there to be a fireplace in both the booking hall and the waiting room, and these could be back-to-back using a common flue:

 

 

Al.

[Alister_G]

43 minutes ago, Harlequin said:

I should say that the booking hall is divided in two internally, of course: There's the public half with the big doors front and back, and the staff-only half from where tickets are sold through the small hatch to the public side. So the window to the left of the double doors is into the staff only part and the window to the right of the double doors is into the public part.

 

I modelled this on Bakewell.

 

 

The main booking hall on the right, with the ticket office on the left.

 

Looking into the booking hall from outside:

 

 

I'm not suggesting you do this level of detailing, by the way Chris...

 

Al.

 

Edited December 11, 2019 by Alister_G
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[chuffinghell]

You beat me to it Al

 

 

@Harlequin Is this more like it Phil?

 

 

I'd not got as far as chimneys though Al

 

Edited December 11, 2019 by chuffinghell

[chuffinghell]

1 hour ago, Harlequin said:

......Ladies WC might be inside the building at the back........

 

[Worsdell forever]

2 hours ago, Harlequin said:

BTW: Sorry to say this but the detail on the gable looks very modern housing estate pastiche.. Urgh!

 

Looks reasonably correct from a Stockton & Darlington point of view... 

 

1 hour ago, chuffinghell said:

I did it on purpose, I was just messing about, I knew you'd hate it 

 

[Rowsley17D]

This is my "Gents"

 

[Andrew P]

Just now, Rowsley17D said:

This is my "Gents"

 

This is mine

 

[Rowsley17D]

Laying-in stock for curry night, I see!

1 hour ago, Andrew P said:

This is mine

 

 

Laying in stock for curry night, I see!

[chuffinghell]

Perhaps something like this would be acceptable?

 

[AlfaZagato]

That's better than the local station I have here...

[RedGemAlchemist]

1 hour ago, chuffinghell said:

Perhaps something like this would be acceptable?

 

Looks quite a lot like many of my local stations / former stations. Norfolk has a great deal of railway buildings like this. 

[Harlequin]

3 hours ago, chuffinghell said:

Perhaps something like this would be acceptable?

 

 

It's starting to look more authentic now! (It's the Gents that does it.)

 

I would have kept a door in the StationMaster's office, as well as a small window. He needs quick access to the platform to sort problems out.

 

There ought to be some secure place to handle parcels. That's often part of the station building but it can also be done in a corrugated iron hut on the platform. And don't forget your lamp hut. (Starting to build an ecosystem!)

 

You have a problem with your rooflines, I'm afraid. If we assume that the central roof is the same pitch as the others (it usually would be) and with similar overhangs then, because you've shown that ridge to be lower than the waiting room ridge, the central part of the building must be less deep than the waiting room is wide... Doesn't seem reasonable to me. I reckon it would be the same width, possibly wider, so the ridge would be the same height as the waiting room, possibly higher. That will ithen ntersect the house roof at the other end but that's good - in fact the house roof could be a bit lower to save the railway company money. The inhabitants are only railway employees so they can put up with slopey ceilings and pokey dormer windows

 

Edited December 11, 2019 by Harlequin

[St Enodoc]

6 hours ago, Andrew P said:

This is mine

 

That must be the ladies'. The gents would have the seat up...

[chuffinghell]

20 hours ago, Harlequin said:

You have a problem with your rooflines, I'm afraid. If we assume that the central roof is the same pitch as the others (it usually would be) and with similar overhangs then, because you've shown that ridge to be lower than the waiting room ridge, the central part of the building must be less deep than the waiting room is wide... Doesn't seem reasonable to me. I reckon it would be the same width, possibly wider, so the ridge would be the same height as the waiting room, possibly higher. That will ithen ntersect the house roof at the other end but that's good - in fact the house roof could be a bit lower to save the railway company money. The inhabitants are only railway employees so they can put up with slopey ceilings and pokey dormer windows

 

 

I'm having to compromise based on the parts I have to hand from the two kits

 

As its low relief you would just have to imagine the left hand building goes further back (similar to the inset photo) which could explain why the ridge is lower?

 

I've done a quick 3D sketch taking the dimensions from the kit of parts

 

The overall depth needs to be no more than 45mm (in low relief)

 

It is tempted to have parts 3D printed instead but this would be a costly option (plus I already have the Peco Kits)

 

Chris

 

Edited December 12, 2019 by chuffinghell

[chuffinghell]

20 hours ago, Harlequin said:

I would have kept a door in the StationMaster's office, as well as a small window. He needs quick access to the platform to sort problems out.

 

I've looked at combining the back part of the country station with one of the station house sides to give me this:- 

 

In effect I would have a door and small window in the Station Masters office and a window and double doors for the booking hall

 

I've done it this way to try and maintain the existing stone pattern, qoins and lintels

 

Not sure if I'm skilled enough but I'll give it a try "he who dares wins Rodney"

 

 

Edited December 12, 2019 by chuffinghell

[RedGemAlchemist]

27 minutes ago, chuffinghell said:

 

I've looked at combining the back part of the country station with one of the station house sides to give me this:- 

 

In effect I would have a door and small window in the Station Masters office and a window and double doors for the booking hall

 

I've done it this way to try and maintain the existing stone pattern, qoins and lintels

 

Not sure if I'm skilled enough but I'll give it a try "he who dares wins Rodney"

 

 

This is exactly the point I was making. Both Wills and Peco kits are designed specifically for people to be able to do stuff like this. Wills also produce sheets of pre-patterned plasticard for doing this as well, and I use them all extensively.