RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted November 20, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Alister_G said: Nice job Al. Thanks Al Not sure if it’s horse friendly now as it’s only a scale 7ft - 6” at its highest point (above the towpath) I’ll have to get a HO scale horse Edited November 20, 2020 by chuffinghell 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted November 20, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) Canal horses weren't that tall, I don't think, they aren't race-horses bred for long legs, they would be stocky and strong. About 15 hands to the shoulder, which is 5 feet, is probably a good average. Al. Edited November 20, 2020 by Alister_G 2 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted November 20, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Alister_G said: Canal horses weren't that tall, I don't think, they aren't race-horses bred for long legs, they would be stocky and strong. About 15 hands to the shoulder, which is 5 feet, is probably a good average. Al. Thanks Al just need to find a suitable narrow boat Edited November 20, 2020 by chuffinghell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richbrummitt Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 I have to duck a little to get through the canal bridges by here comfortably when on a bike so it’s probably not too far off. It does look better lower at the top too where there is now a little more height between the arch and the road, as I believe there should be. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Don't forget that a horse has its head down when plodding along pulling a load and they are smart enough to duck. Something that I almost haven't been more than once when we go cycling on the towpath around here. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted November 20, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, chuffinghell said: just need to find a suitable narrow boat Have a look here: https://www.hobbies247.co.uk/product-category/modelling/railways-models-kits/canal-boats/ Balsa wood kits Or if you prefer plastic: https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/motor-boat-oo-gauge/ Al. Edited November 20, 2020 by Alister_G 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold GWR57xx Posted November 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) You could also make the canal narrower going under the bridge. It only needs to be 7 feet wide to allow a narrowboat through. This would give more headroom over the towpath and is not uncommon on our canals. https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/media/original/32433-waterway-dimensions.pdf Edited November 21, 2020 by GWR57xx Link added 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted November 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2020 I wouldn't worry about the height too much. As long as it looks about right. There are several bridges near me that I can only walk under without ducking my head if I am stepping on the large stones edging the towpath. If I walk on the towpath itself I have to duck slightly. To be fair, these are in the minority but there is definitely variation. I agree with the comments about horses too. Think pony rather than horse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, GWR57xx said: You could also make the canal narrower going under the bridge. It only needs to be 7 feet wide to allow a narrowboat through. This would give more headroom over the towpath and is not uncommon on our canals. https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/media/original/32433-waterway-dimensions.pdf Yes, the one at Willington Derbyshire does that. So does this one. Edited November 21, 2020 by Andrew P 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted November 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2020 Scalescenes do a nice lock not that you need one but comes with many different canal boats so you could ring the changes and the textures might come in handy for your towpath. https://scalescenes.com/product/t018-narrowboats-and-lock/ 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 In it very common for canals to reduce in width by a bridge. This is the Oxford Canal a couple of years ago plus don't forget a lift bridge.... 9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MAP66 Posted November 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2020 15 hours ago, chuffinghell said: It doesn’t look pretty But it appears to work quite well Better with the liner in place I think I may need to put a mirror at the back of the bridge? "It doesn't look pretty" I disagree, its looking 'pretty good', very nice work. Instead of a mirrow, perhaps try some matt black card first to see how that looks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted November 21, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) Perhaps if I bring in the right hand side 5mm and the left hand side in 10mm and widen the canal externally buy 10-15mm would look better? I wanted to remake it anyway because I want to make the canal deeper using 3mm base and 9mm top (I need to maintain a 12mm overall height) Edited November 21, 2020 by chuffinghell 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 these do narrowboats https://anyscalemodels.com/shop/railways/boats.html 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 This one is the Lancaster canal, which I believe makes a full house! The shape of the waterway is as you have drawn it. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted November 21, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2020 I’ll be off to get some timber soon but in the meantime.... Notched out the road So the bridge sits back so the walling is flush with the inside It’s not finished yet Bertie 14 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Great job, shows a lot of logical reasoning and observations of the real world. So much so that I have decided to have a break from further wiring and sort out the embankment around my bridges. Thanks for the inspiration! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 hours ago, chuffinghell said: I’ll be off to get some timber soon but in the meantime.... Notched out the road So the bridge sits back so the walling is flush with the inside It’s not finished yet Bertie Don't be overly fussy here Chris, a bit of spare card, and some edging will do that a treat, here's mine on Kings Moreton. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted November 22, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2020 TAKE TWO 9mm MDF on 3mm hardboard to lower the water level, right hand edge flush with the bridge, towpath on the left widened. Goes from 100mm wide (25ft) to 70mm wide (17ft-6”) Not glued in place yet, awaiting comments 12 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, chuffinghell said: TAKE TWO 9mm MDF on 3mm hardboard to lower the water level, right hand edge flush with the bridge, towpath on the left widened. Goes from 100mm wide (25ft) to 70mm wide (17ft-6”) Not glued in place yet, awaiting comments Looks spot on to me. Make it happen! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted November 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2020 Looks good to me as well Steve. What are you going to use for water? If it's going to be just paint and varnish it's fine how it is. If you're going with some sort of resin then you need to block the ends and put something underneath to catch the drips or seal all of the edges with PVA and let it dry properly first. Regards Lez. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold simonmcp Posted November 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2020 48 minutes ago, chuffinghell said: TAKE TWO 9mm MDF on 3mm hardboard to lower the water level, right hand edge flush with the bridge, towpath on the left widened. Goes from 100mm wide (25ft) to 70mm wide (17ft-6”) Not glued in place yet, awaiting comments Looking great so far, I hate to say it but wouldn't it be better to make the canal surface out of one piece of hardboard rather than trying to disguise the joins in the surface later on? I wouldn't be able to live with a visible join in the canal, but maybe that's me being too fussy. I am sure whatever you do will be up to your very high standard. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted November 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, simonmcp said: Looking great so far, I hate to say it but wouldn't it be better to make the canal surface out of one piece of hardboard rather than trying to disguise the joins in the surface later on? I wouldn't be able to live with a visible join in the canal, but maybe that's me being too fussy. I am sure whatever you do will be up to your very high standard. I think what you are seeing as a join is a pencil line. Happy to be told I'm wrong though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, lezz01 said: Looks good to me as well Steve. What are you going to use for water? If it's going to be just paint and varnish it's fine how it is. If you're going with some sort of resin then you need to block the ends and put something underneath to catch the drips or seal all of the edges with PVA and let it dry properly first. Regards Lez. PVA can react with some water products, to result in cloudyness. Make sure that the two are compatible before you seal everything up with PVA... J 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted November 22, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, lezz01 said: Looks good to me as well Steve. What are you going to use for water? If it's going to be just paint and varnish it's fine how it is. If you're going with some sort of resin then you need to block the ends and put something underneath to catch the drips or seal all of the edges with PVA and let it dry properly first. Regards Lez. Thanks Lez. I intend to use resin, however I’m planning on sealing any joints underneath with silicone sealant. I’ve seen what can happen if you don’t and it’s not pretty 11 minutes ago, simonmcp said: Looking great so far, I hate to say it but wouldn't it be better to make the canal surface out of one piece of hardboard rather than trying to disguise the joins in the surface later on? I wouldn't be able to live with a visible join in the canal, but maybe that's me being too fussy. I am sure whatever you do will be up to your very high standard. Once filled, sanded, painted and scenery added there will be no visible joins, however if there are I have found my sledgehammer in the shed 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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