RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 10, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2021 12 hours ago, MrWolf said: I look forward to seeing that. I sense some extreme kit bashing about to happen. Unfortunately not, sorry to disappoint but I've cheated and used the drawings I did for the pump house... ....to create the goods shed (based on the Ratio N gauge version) As before I have designed it to use the Ratio Windows and brick arches 5 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 10, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) Instead of being a direct copy of the Ratio N gauge shed....... .......I intend to build a platform around it to include the facility for end loading and a crane Edited January 10, 2021 by chuffinghell 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 9 hours ago, chuffinghell said: Unfortunately not, sorry to disappoint but I've cheated and used the drawings I did for the pump house... ....to create the goods shed (based on the Ratio N gauge version) As before I have designed it to use the Ratio Windows and brick arches Stonkin eck Chris, that's going to look superb mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 10, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2021 38 minutes ago, Andrew P said: Stonkin eck Chris, that's going to look superb mate. Thanks Andy Not as acceptable as scratch building to some I would imagine (because I’m cheatIng) but I’m using my ‘skills?’ as a draughtsman Still quite a bit to finish off 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted January 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2021 Sounds like scratch building to me Chris. If you've marked out the material and cut it out yourself I reckon that qualifies mate. It don't matter where you get the drawing from and if you use windows and doors that's just a helping hand in my book. I have a partly built MR 156 class on my shelf, I'm using Gibson frames, wheels and boiler fittings and as far as I'm concerned it's scratch built. Well it will be if I ever finish it. Regards Lez. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gedward Posted January 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2021 I don't think that is cheating. I'm not planning to build any rolling stock for Bovey Tor. Is that cheating? George 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted January 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2021 Definitely not cheating - It's using the skills available to you. Scratchbuilding (to me at least) just means making something yourself, rather than just buying and assembling a kit - it doesn't matter what tools and techniques you use. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 11, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2021 I'm planning on having the main body 3D printed so I suppose it's only half cheating 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I would say that it's anything but cheating, you even have to design the material and have the ability to operate the machine that produces them. So you're going a step further than those of us who start supposedly from scratch with ready made building materials, the only tricky and time consuming part of which is cutting out for doors and windows. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted January 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2021 I don't think that there's any cheating going on here at all, whether it's in inverted commas or not. I took a look at Wikipedia to see what they thought about the subject: "Cheating generally describes various actions designed to subvert rules in order to obtain unfair advantages." "A person described as a "cheat" doesn't necessarily cheat all the time, but rather, relies on deceitful tactics to the point of acquiring a reputation for it." I see no trace of subversion (everything is above board ) nor do I see any deceit, although there might be some reputations under question. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 "subvert rules" - what rules? Like @Mick BonwickBonwick says, no crime. Besides, one unwritten rule. Rule 1. It's YOUR train set. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gedward Posted January 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2021 Whether it's train operations, loco construction or scenery. We all live this hobby for different reasons. And we all have different goals and abilities also. This is very apparent in model clubs, where various 'experts' are available. But it's quite challenging when you're tasked with doing everything yourself. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post chuffinghell Posted January 12, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2021 A little more progress Still quite a bit to do yet but I'm getting there 13 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted January 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2021 Are you going to incorporate some steps and/or ramp to get on/off the loading platform, Chris? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted January 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2021 A lot of goods sheds also had a small office as a lean-to - often a later addition. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted January 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 10/01/2021 at 23:07, chuffinghell said: Still quite a bit to finish off Does that include steps/ramps/offices/lean-to/roof/track/paint/people/sacks/boxes/../../../.. ? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 13, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mick Bonwick said: Does that include steps/ramps/offices/lean-to/roof/track/paint/people/sacks/boxes/../../../.. ? I’ll be doing steps and maybe an office I've purposely drawn it to the same dimensions as the ratio OO gauge engine shed so I can use the windows, arches, roof and gutters etc from the engine shed kit as I managed to get one very cheap* off of a well known auction site *very cheap because it’s a pre-owned kit with missing parts but everything I need is there 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted January 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, chuffinghell said: I’ll be doing steps and maybe an office I've purposely drawn it to the same dimensions as the ratio OO gauge engine shed so I can use the windows, arches, roof and gutters etc from the engine shed kit as I managed to get one very cheap* off of a well known auction site *very cheap because it’s a pre-owned kit with missing parts but everything I need is there My question was just a little bit tongue-in-cheek, Chris. I fully expect that everything will be catered for in the fullness of time. I am impressed by the way that you consider everything so very carefully before taking any action. I tend to get carried away (not far enough, some people say) once I start with an idea, and end up having to start again because things weren't thought through enough in the beginning. I ought to have learnt by now, because the people whose work I like on RMweb all seem to plan very carefully first. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 13, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2021 Door aperture added Steps added I've dimensioned the steps allowing 1.5mm for ballast so that the stair treads are equally spaced 3 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 13, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) Would it be feasible to keep this as just an access door..... ....or should I make it in to an office area? my reservations being that it reduces the off loading area and you probably won’t be able to see much of it from the outside.... .... I’m still considering having an adjoining building the other end for a weigh bridge hut though Edited January 13, 2021 by chuffinghell 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Some goods sheds had the office as a wooden structure inside one corner of the building. Others have a one or two storey external office / valuables store. Just to prove that there's a prototype for everything, Tetbury had a two storey extension with the weighbridge office attached to it. 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponthir28 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) I would do a office out side but keep the door as a internal entrance to the goods shed. Don’t know it that is GWR practice? Edited January 13, 2021 by Ponthir28 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 13, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ponthir28 said: I would do a office out side....keep the door as a internal entrance to the goods shed. That’s what I’m thinking 3 minutes ago, Ponthir28 said: ......know it that is GWR practice? Me neither but there is no reason why it can’t become ‘Warren Branch’ practice 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted January 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2021 I would agree with others that the building could have a lean-too office tacked on one end. Bakewell was like that - originally had a timber partitioned off area as an office, but then as it got busier they removed it and stuck a corrugated iron office on the outside. Interior Office: Copyright Stan Roberts Collection used with permission External Office: Copyright Stan Roberts Collection used with permission Al. 6 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium figworthy Posted January 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, chuffinghell said: That’s what I’m thinking Me neither but there is no reason why it can’t become ‘Warren Branch’ practice Was the Warren Branch built by the GWR, or acquired by them at a later stage. If the latter, then structures could have been built by the Warren Railway Company to whatever design suited them. Figworthy was built by the West Of England Railway Company, but was taken over by the GWR when they ran out of money. Adrian 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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