MrWolf Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 As you're going for an all stone construction, increasing the size of the blocks around the crane mount is a good idea, they look like granite setts rather than bricks. It's looking like it will be a top quality goods shed. You realise I'm now going to have to build the terminus to go with my through station layout just so that I can build a "proper" goods shed. Not to mention the loco shed that I had to concede on my current layout! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted January 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2021 5 hours ago, MrWolf said: Neat job. That reminds me that I need to make a new base for the crane I have. I have a photo somewhere and it looks pretty easy to fabricate. I hope that you're not fitting an anti aircraft gun on that mount as it's going to be close to the bridges.... https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/railgun-gladiator-ww11-railgun-or76boom02 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Nick C said: https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/railgun-gladiator-ww11-railgun-or76boom02 That might just be overkill.... I like it. But I think that the Warren Home Guard would be happier with this: Edited January 23, 2021 by MrWolf 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Back OT, after the convoluted discussion we had about the internal crane for the goods shed, did you come up with a suitable crane model or are you planning on cannibalising a kit for the ironworks and making the wooden tower and jib? Apologies if you already mentioned it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 23, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, MrWolf said: Back OT, after the convoluted discussion we had about the internal crane for the goods shed, did you come up with a suitable crane model or are you planning on cannibalising a kit for the ironworks and making the wooden tower and jib? Apologies if you already mentioned it! I’m planning on it being a combination of kit cannibalisation and scratch building. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, chuffinghell said: I’m planning on it being a combination of kit cannibalisation and scratch building. Which is exactly what I am planning to do as I plan to install a timber crane (also known as a Scotch Derrick.) in my goods yard. At one time you could get a kit quite easily, I have been hunting around for a while now and no luck. The model isn't mine BTW! Edited January 23, 2021 by MrWolf PostScript! 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post chuffinghell Posted January 24, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2021 On 02/01/2021 at 13:01, Rowsley17D said: ......They would have put up a sign on each side of the bend.... I purchased these off a well know auction site... ...they are okay but they are a bit rough and painting the stripes would be difficult so I wondered if I could maybe come up with a solution?.... Yes I know having individual sections was lazy but.... 15 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 The OCD has kicked in nicely there. A great little win though. They're something that I need to organise eventually too. It seems that everyone (including myself) is on with small tasks today. The road surface now looks spot on by the way! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 24, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, MrWolf said: The OCD has kicked in nicely there. A great little win though. Thank you, although I refer to having OCD I’m not officially diagnosed but you have to wonder There was no way I could paint the strips straight and even (and be happy with it) so this was the obvious solution. I had them 3D printed by Tim @cwrailways and the signs are by trackside signs No affiliation with either companies, just a satisfied customer 11 minutes ago, MrWolf said: The road surface now looks spot on by the way! Thank you, I’ve finished titivating it now I’ve got it to a stage I’m happy with it (I’m my own worst critic) Edited January 24, 2021 by chuffinghell 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I have no official diagnosis of OCD either, (though perhaps I show symptoms) I think it is more the fact that we are creating a realistic picture so we have to include what we know is there (within reason!) in order to create an "honest" picture. Mostly I think that the challenge of putting together the picture is what makes modelmaking enjoyable. Every now and then I remember the trains! 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted January 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 hours ago, chuffinghell said: There was no way I could paint the strips straight and even (and be happy with it) so this was the obvious solution. Obvious to you, maybe, but I doubt if I would have thought of that as a solution. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Are you sure you've got the colour the right way on the post , think the bottom should be black then white, i'll get my coat!!!!!! 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 24, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, long island jack said: Are you sure you've got the colour the right way on the post , think the bottom should be black then white, i'll get my coat!!!!!! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 24, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2021 36 minutes ago, MrWolf said: Every now and then I remember the trains! Oh yeah I’d forgotten about the trains 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 24, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mick Bonwick said: ....I doubt if I would have thought of that as a solution. I’m sure you would have or maybe even a better one 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold simonmcp Posted January 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, chuffinghell said: Yes I know having individual sections was lazy but.... Can you make them available to us mere mortals now from Chris at CWR please? Edited January 24, 2021 by simonmcp Duff link 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 24, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 hours ago, simonmcp said: Can you make them available to us mere mortals now from Chris at CWR please? I’ll have a word with Tim* and see what he says *I believe Chris sold/transferred the business a few years ago so the contact @cwrailways is now Tim, he’s a very helpful and pleasant guy to deal with so I’m sure it won’t be a problem 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 24, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) I’m thinking of moving the crane base further back towards the shed..... ....maybe? Just seems a bit too close to the edge for offloading the first wagon (if that makes sense) Although I’ve already got the Peco crane I’ve also ordered a Gaugemaster one for comparison which ever one I go for I think I will need to reduce the boom length, the one I don’t use I can put by the canal near the pump house Edited January 24, 2021 by chuffinghell 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 25, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) Sorry about this guys but I'm still trying to get my head around the hoist cabling I found this photo that appears to be rigged up The chain (in green) goes over pully 'A' to drum 'B' which in turn is connected to the large pulley 'C' However there only appears to be a single cable (in red) from pulley 'C' to the winch 'D' Is the red cable wrapped around the large pulley a couple of times and physically attached to the large pulley or am I missing something? HELP!!!! This is how I thought it was done So now I'm totally confused Edited January 25, 2021 by chuffinghell 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted January 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) There isn't a standard way these things work Chris. Each manufacture would have it's own particular way of rigging their own products. Most cranes were made by a crane builder and bought in by the subcontractor who won the contract to build the shed for the railway company. There are only so many ways of doing it but you can bet that every railway company had at least one example of the different methods of rigging somewhere on it's system. As an example my command post section in the army had 2 garages next to each other in the gun line where we kept our 432's and each door had a different mechanism for raising the door. You seem to have been drawn down the rabbit hole here mate and it's huge warren down there. Ask yourself two questions. 1 can it be seen with the roof on and 2 are you making a working model. Then climb back out of the rabbit hole and build the damn shed. Regards Lez. Edited January 25, 2021 by lezz01 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 @lezz01 has a good point there, you only need to give the impression that it works for it to be convincing. If you really have to rig it up something like, this is the setup I posted previously, which as pointed out above, isn't the only possible way, but the most likely for the type of fixed jib hoist in your photos. 1 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 25, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 58 minutes ago, lezz01 said: There isn't a standard way these things work Chris. Each manufacture would have it's own particular way of rigging their own products. Most cranes were made by a crane builder and bought in by the subcontractor who won the contract to build the shed for the railway company. There are only so many ways of doing it but you can bet that every railway company had at least one example of the different methods of rigging somewhere on it's system. As an example my command post section in the army had 2 garages next to each other in the gun line where we kept our 432's and each door had a different mechanism for raising the door. You seem to have been drawn down the rabbit hole here mate and it's huge warren down there. Ask yourself two questions. 1 can it be seen with the roof on and 2 are you making a working model. Then climb back out of the rabbit hole and build the damn shed. Regards Lez. 28 minutes ago, MrWolf said: @lezz01 has a good point there, you only need to give the impression that it works for it to be convincing. If you really have to rig it up something like, this is the setup I posted previously, which as pointed out above, isn't the only possible way, but the most likely for the type of fixed jib hoist in your photos. Sorry guys, you're quite right. I'm just concerned about some smart ar$e telling me its wrong after I build it (instead of telling me before hand) Edited January 25, 2021 by chuffinghell 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Then we should ask said smart ar5e to show us in great detail how he built the one on his layout. Followed by the equally pertinent question: "Where were you with this vital information when it was most relevant?" 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 25, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2021 I took the plunge and glued in the road sign... I still need to paint, assemble and install the sign at the opposite end of the curve. 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 That little scene looks so very real thanks to a few simple things that other layouts seem to miss. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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