The Bigbee Line Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 Good evening Thanks for the suggestions. Quite spookily when I was sorting out some stuff today I came across one that had already had the wire inserted into the switch. Just what I need for my Brighton Works layout. It's even got the simple loop to take care of any difference in throw... Just need to get it into position.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 I was searching for something else on the internet (J6 loco pictures) and came across a site "The Transport Library" that had a couple of pictures of 32636 on 24-02-1957 on a LCGB Railtour with a BR Mark 1 Brake as the first coach leaving Hayling Island, and it's in Blood and Custard.... Pictures ordered.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cane Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Hi Just came across your project to build Hayling in O scale. I was involved in building this station, to scale, in P4 many years ago. One important reference was the book Branch lines of the Southern Railway published by Wild Swan. Do you have a copy of this, if not my copy is surplus to requirements. There are also some useful pictures in the book An Historical Survey of Selected Southern Stations. Regards Tony Cane 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 21 hours ago, Tony Cane said: Hi Just came across your project to build Hayling in O scale. I was involved in building this station, to scale, in P4 many years ago. One important reference was the book Branch lines of the Southern Railway published by Wild Swan. Do you have a copy of this, if not my copy is surplus to requirements. There are also some useful pictures in the book An Historical Survey of Selected Southern Stations. Regards Tony Cane Tony PM sent regarding book, Thanks Ernie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cane Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 HI Replied to your PM but I thick tihis may not work. My email address is t(dot)cane(at)btinternet.com Regards Tony Cane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted May 18, 2019 Author Share Posted May 18, 2019 (edited) Well, home after a week at Highley. Had been thinking about Hayling Island and picked up the Back Track with an article on the branch. As the build had been on hold during the winter (cold) months I had lost a little 'mojo'. I thought it might be better to take the boards down and work on the individually elements. So here is Board No.1, The approach track from Havant and the first set of points. The curved front to the layout is created with thin ply. Just need to make the 'outriggers' to mount it. Looking at my library of pictures, I found one showing the ballast shoulder. Its not a huge shoulder, then a small cess (path) and onto the line side grassy bank. Edited May 18, 2019 by The Bigbee Line 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echini Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 On 28/09/2018 at 23:31, The Bigbee Line said: The nights are drawing in.... Tonight I assembled by 4th Screwfix trestle. I had previously had a workshop shuffle to make room for Hayling Island. It will need to run diagonally across the workshop. I knew it was large, but even with 3 boards up it was a bit of a monster. In its present position there are 30" between the buffer stops and the garage door. I want to use some of that for a small cosmetic extension for a representation of Station Road and a façade of Whittingtons Store... I need to do some research to check if it was still a store in the early 1960's. I've not seen a view that shows Station Road itself. The length of the boards seems to dictate some form of sector plate or cassette system for the fiddle yard. Tomorrow will be the fitting of the door in the workshops, some domestic duties and maybe a little modelling.. In the 1960s, this was Chainey's (not sure of the spelling) general store. We lived in Park Road, so it was our local grocer's. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 The Hayling Island project slumbers in the workshop. When I can rearrange all the cr@p I have (mostly useful stuff) it will get re-erected to allow progress as and when. I have 'frog juicers' and Hankscraft motors ready for the points. A Kirk Maunsell Brake is to get 'bashed' into an ex Push Pull Brake. The most interesting thing was a chance find in the HMRS website https://hmrs.org.uk/alterations-to-carriages-for-use-on-midhurst-hayling-island-branch-services.html Did these actually get converted? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyS Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 I know virtually nothing about coaches but I know a man who does ! He assures me that the two coaches were LSWR brake composites and the conversions were carried out. The Midhurst coach was number 2650 but he couldn't remember the number of the Hayling one. It is shown in the Middleton Press book on the Hayling line in photos 60 and 95. Rodney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 3 hours ago, RodneyS said: I know virtually nothing about coaches but I know a man who does ! He assures me that the two coaches were LSWR brake composites and the conversions were carried out. The Midhurst coach was number 2650 but he couldn't remember the number of the Hayling one. It is shown in the Middleton Press book on the Hayling line in photos 60 and 95. Rodney Rodney Thanks, got to find the book now..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 Good evening, After some poring over books (and learning how to count compartments!!) I found them in the OPC LSWR Carriages of the 20th Century by G R Wweddell. A good pre-conversion picture of 6509 on page 139 Based on 56' brakes: 948 built as a tri-compo brake, then re-numbered to 2650 when converted to a brake third in 6/45 for the Midhurst line, then later to Hayling Island, withdrawn 7/56 1003 built as a brake compo, then re-numbered 6259 with lavatory and vestibules removed 6/53 to Hayling Island, withdrawn 11/58 227 built as a brake compo, then re-numbered 6518 with lav and vestibules removed 4/45 to Hayling Island, withdrawn 3/53, with a strange comment "altered to Diagram 412 (12 first)", not sure what that means... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 "12 First" might mean that two first class compartments were converted to three-each-side seating ...... the diagram you show seems to indicate that firsts were originally two-each-side, which surprised me, because it is mega-generous. Brake composites were usually built for use as "portions" for very long distance through trains, bits of what became the ACE etc., so maybe the LSWR made the 1st Class especially roomy, to allow for slouching, lunch-hampers etc. on an all-day journey. Possibly the compartments that were originally 2nd Class began with three-each-side, and the 3rd Class four-each-side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 Good evening, In these grim times, I have decided not to drag my heels on projects, they are either closed down or given the 'green light'... Hayling Island, unlike the real thing, has been given a green light... So i have started setting up the sub base frame work to take the boards..... This is the 'next to end' board, just testing the height. Seems OK. The original end board stopped immediately after the buffer stops, I an going to substitute a longer board to allow a slightly better representation of the station approach. I need to get my finger out on point operation. I think I'll go for an either side of the board manual system, convertible to motors... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AireValley1962 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, The Bigbee Line said: Good evening, In these grim times, I have decided not to drag my heels on projects, they are either closed down or given the 'green light'. Hayling Island, unlike the real thing, has been given a green light... Good evening indeed! I'm looking forward to progress on this Hayling Island representation. I'm building a Hayling Island might-have-been in the form of a station even further down the line by the name of Eastoke. But I'm quite interested in this model of the original Hayling Island station. I love the A1x and associated stock. Anyway, cheers! Will 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRASinBothell Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 An Eastoke station would have been convenient for me. We lived on Southwood Rd, right around where Eastoke Ave joins it from 1963 to 69. Pity it never happened... Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 Good evening I had period of mental confusion yesterday regarding the location of the coal stage, nearly moved all the track around... So with the time i saved by not moving the track, I tackled the curved front board. The baseboard had received arboreal dressmaking to curve it. The hacked front is replaced by an off cut off of 6mm waterproof mdf from the scrap box, to be fixed to some timber outriggers... To avoid more confusion I've created some place marker items. Here the start of the platform, with the large lump of wood reminding me where the coal stage will be located.... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sf315 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 looking good Ernie keep up the good work 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 The first section of front board now in place. Now to dig out the next board,.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 The invisible menders at work, that’s a joke by the way, as a ‘Chippendale’ in any form am I. I'm joining 2 widths of baseboard, so used the end plate of the narrow board screwed to the front of the wider one. Now filling the odd spaces. I want to get the rail ends all set up. Feeds soldered etc. I can then ballast the bay platform line and build the platform wall. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 Good evening, tonight I have tasked myself with laying the track into the bay platform. The section already in place is a little short, so rather that splice in 2 short pieces (I wasted an hour trying that last night....) I will mark out where 60 and 405 foot lengths would some and then cut some lengths to suit. At the same time adding feed wires..... Then I want to add the platform face for said bay platform.. Never actually build many platforms, so have been looking at platform heights and numbers of bricks. The bottom of the platform ramp will be along the joint between the baseboards. The platform next to the bay will be gravel topped. Then past the stops, that conveniently match the next baseboard joint, the top surface will be tarmac. Here is an idea of the platform height.. Referencing the loco step, so 32635 will get lined up and measured. Then I have some brick styrene sheet (hopefully good enough) that will be cut to suit. I'm not sure of the angle of the ramp, so any suggestions would be appreciated. Finally the stops in the bay will be mounted on a short section of track on the next baseboard. Here is a picture showing a nice crisp timber beam, with wooden blocks on the front. Look to be the typical LBSC type. I can close some from a set of Peco stops 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
O-Gauge-Phil Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Hi the ramp is usually 1:8 . Keep up the good work. Phil 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share Posted April 12, 2020 Today started adding droppers. So dig out my Samuel L Jackson Motherf@ckin’ 100W iron..... No need for any pre-heat. It’s Functionality over Appearance. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share Posted April 12, 2020 Determined to make the feeds more invisible I decided to improve. The wires were fed from below and soldered to the side of the rail. To help not melt the sleepers the base was cut away to allow two sleepers to be slid away from the wires, with one sleeper removed. Here are the wires soldered in place and the joint ready to have the flux washed off... The sleeper adjacent to the actual join had the ends cut off and it was replaced in the four foot. The ends were trimmed to allow the end to site correctly. When painted the soldered wire will look to be part of the chair, the sleepers on either side were slid back in position.. The other end is still to be fixed... 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) Today, I’m fixing the core for the platform. A strip of timber with multi cuts to assist with the bend... Selective compression has been applied, the bay can take 2 coaches... l cut the ramp to the suggested 1 in 8. Looks good. Edited April 13, 2020 by The Bigbee Line 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) Good afternoon, This afternoon I have been trying to form the base of the platform and lay the main platform line. After my step change in the appearance of track feeds I looked to sort out the main platform line from the points to the baseboard joint adjacent to the platform ramp. I found a section of track that would fill the gap with no need for intermediate joints. This was laid joined to the piece of track that would be the main platform line, laid using another section of timber to represent the main platform face. Once a section of track is laid I try and sight along the length to get the curves as smooth as possible, sometimes it looks OK from one angle, but as you change your viewpoint it shows a dodgy bit... The picture below shows the location of the platform. The timber just forms a support of the embossed styrene that will form the faces. The brick edging will will form the top edge. the middle will be filled with a balsa dust / pva mixture, not too rigid, to avoid cracking. This will then be topped with a sand mixture to represent the gravel surface..... Edited April 13, 2020 by The Bigbee Line 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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